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EPROM eraser- UV germicidal
    #5367466 - 03/05/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was erasing some EPROMs with my UV eraser, and happened to notice the bulb said germicidal right on the glass, so I looked up some info on the internet. If you don't want to go blind, skip to the last paragraph of this post.
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From this link-

The germicidal spectrum of the ultraviolet wavelength is from 2000 to 3000 Angstroms, with the peak of 2537 Angstroms. The total UV energy emitted from all sides of the UV lamp is expressed in watts. The total exposure of the liquid is expressed in microwatt-seconds per square centimeter, which is a product of energy, time, and area. The same number of micro-watt seconds per square centimeter can be accomplished with a short exposure at a high intensity of UV or a long exposure at a low intensity of UV.

All known micro-organisms are destroyed with proper exposure to ultra-violet radiation in the 2,000 to 3,000 Angstrom Unit range. Most water-borne pathogenic (disease-causing) Micro-organisms are destroyed with under 10,000 Microwatt seconds per square centimeter.

Ultraviolet Energy Levels at 2537 Angstrom Units Wavelength required for 99.9% Destruction of Various Microorganisms. UV Energy in Microwatt-
seconds per Square Centimeter

Bacteria-
Bacillus anthracis 8700
Bacillus megaterium (vegetative) 2500
Bacillus megaterium (spores) 52000
Bacillus subtilis (vegetative) 11000
Bacillus subtilis (spores) 58000
Clostridium tetani 22000
Salmonelia enteritidis 7600
Salmonelia typhosa (typhoid) 6000
Staphylococcus epidermidis 5800
Streptococcus iactis 8800

Mold Spores-
Aspergillus glaucus 88000
Aspergillus niger 330000
Penicillum expensum 22000
Rhizopus nigricans 220000

Algae-
Chlorelia vulgaris 22000

Protozoa-
Nematode eggs 92000
Paramecium 200000

Viruses-
E. coli 6600
Hepatitis virus 8000
Influenza virus 6600
Tobacco masaic virus 440000

Yeast-
Baker's yeast 8800
Brewer's yeast 6600
Common yeast cake 13200
Saccharomyces sp. 17600




The output of my G6T5 bulb is 1.7 watts. This computes to at least 1000 uW/cm2 at 4 inches, the furthest point of the jar from the bulb. This includes loss from travel through air, through the glass (or PETE plastic) and through the liquid with an assumed coefficient of UV absorption of .15 (most tap water is about .05). Eight hours (overnight) is almost 30,000 seconds, or a total of 30 million uW-secs/cm2, which should be enough to purify the pope.

I'm not saying that this is a replacement for a PC, or that anyone should run out an buy a UV lamp (the bulb sells for about ten bucks). I happened to have one, so I'm using it in conjunction with other aseptic methods. It does little beyond the surface of any material that isn't fairly transparent and free of visible particles. But it can help with ensuring sterility of liquid cultures. Of course, if you skipped the technical details above, don't UV the culture after noc'ing, it is a fungicidal agent, and will kill mushroom spores and mycelia. Can also help battle the bugs on surfaces and in the air, as UV lamps are frequently incorporated in flow hoods for that purpose. I know that this is all old news to most of you, just thought I would mention it in case some happen to have an EPROM eraser hanging around.

Btw (by the way), black lights are UV, but the wrong spectrum. You need UV-c output.


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: mogur]
    #5367542 - 03/05/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In another life, when I had a positive pressure quasi/clean room.

I installed a UV bulb in the sheet-metal duct work running from the hepa filter into the room.

I worked out WELL.

However, unless shielded (100%), they are dangerous puppies to play with.
As they cause skin cancer and/or blindness with exposure.

Currently, I use a shielded turbo twist UV sterilizer (for up/scale aquarium water filtration)to decontaminate water. :thumbup:


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: agar]
    #5367566 - 03/05/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

UV light is another way to create ozone. There are plans for a UV ozone generator evailable, but the precautions involved are a lot more stringent. UV light is commonly used to treat water in spas and whirlpools.

The plan I saw used the inner bulb of an HID fixture. Once the outer bulb is broken, the inner bulb puts out MEGA UV rays.


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: agar]
    #5367575 - 03/05/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Damn, forgot about the exposure warnings. Thanks, agar.


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5367629 - 03/05/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, there are special bulbs at 185 angstroms in wavelength meant to create ozone, but as you probably know, it only creates about 1/10 the ozone that your ozone corona discharge tek will create with the same energy input. Any disinfecting agent, chemical or otherwise is dangerous to humans without proper understanding of safe handling procedures. Even a PC can create an unwanted tunnel through your head. A little fear can sometimes be prudent.

EDIT: Make that 1850 angstroms, my head is only remotely connected to my fingers. Or, 185 nm. :crazy2:


Edited by mogur (03/05/06 03:04 PM)


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: mogur]
    #5367638 - 03/05/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This is true...plus the corona discharge is SOOOOO cool to watch while you are under the influence.  A darkened room and a couple of shrooms and it would be a party :wink:


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and your old lady has just gone down!" ~~ Zappa



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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5368285 - 03/05/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Very informative, thank you, I will be looking into it.

~Cappa.


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Re: EPROM eraser- UV germicidal [Re: cappa]
    #5514621 - 04/14/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They are efficient, but be careful. Thought about putting one inside a flow hood before.
On the inside , between the exhaust of the fan and the filter as an extra measure of sterility!  The light being encased with in the unit would eliminate exposure correct? Any body have any insight?

Peace...... :bananahorsey:
Maybe I should have Finished reading before I posted! :crazy2:


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Edited by DrAbominable (04/14/06 01:35 AM)


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