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life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery"
    #5334367 - 02/24/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i was watching a very interesting show on the science channel the other day... called the death star.

Basically they said that everything in the universe is star dust... a star is created in a "star nursery" they are comprised of gas and dust... the pressure from gravity condenses this gas and dust into a clump of "resin" lets say... the continuation of pressure makes the atoms move faster and faster until the ball of resin ignites and you have yourself a star/sun.

when a star explodes/implodes it creates a black hole and then throws star dust into space and eventually becomes part of the cloud of dust and gas of the star nurseries.... basically being reborn time and time again.

When it implodes and creates a black hole it shoots two gamma ray beams in opposite directions (gamma rays are the most powerful thing in the universe) and this entire process of birth/death of a star with the gamma rays is called a hypernova.

one could say thats how our life/spirit works if you believe in recarnation.

but they said that every element that makes up, our air, our planet and even the bones in our body are exactly the same as the elements that a star is made of.

They even said the iron from our blood comes from the middle of the stars.

its quite interesting to view creation this way.

of course at the end of the show they said "but who/what created the gas/dust that eventually creates all life?"

that has to be a given that there is a god, because even so that our atoms are exactly the same as the sun which the sun is not technically alive as per say we are.... there has to be something/someone that gives the elements that we are made of life.

life as we know it cannot just "form" let alone form in the many billons of different things that are alive on this planet.

i also love when i hear them say "we are just the perfect distance from the sun for life to exsist."

i mean come on its so perfect it just came to be?!

please!

pretty interesting shit if you ask me!


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: agoutihead]
    #5334379 - 02/24/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

We are part of a very complex system of interconnectedness.

Perhaps It could be said that the "Star" is "God" and that right now we are tiny pieces of God but one day we will become God again.


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: agoutihead]
    #5334418 - 02/24/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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agoutihead said:
i also love when i hear them say "we are just the perfect distance from the sun for life to exsist."

i mean come on its so perfect it just came to be?!






Odds are that life could've formed if Earth was as far from the sun as Venus or Mars. The reason why that hasn't happened to those planets is cuz of the different chemical compositions of the atmospheres and the soil.


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: Baelomor]
    #5334450 - 02/24/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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agoutihead said:
i also love when i hear them say "we are just the perfect distance from the sun for life to exsist." 

i mean come on its so perfect it just came to be?!






Odds are that life could've formed if Earth was as far from the sun as Venus or Mars. The reason why that hasn't happened to those planets is cuz of the different chemical compositions of the atmospheres and the soil.




Umm... the temperature on venus is around 900 degrees.  If earth was that close to the sun life would not exist here. :rolleyes:


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: jmg5]
    #5334460 - 02/24/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Venus is so hot only because of abundance of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Its an example of what the global warming can do.
Otherwise the temepreature would reach around 150-200 degrees celcius. Thats enough for the most basic life to appear :smile:


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: jmg5]
    #5334465 - 02/24/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yes but remember, esentially the entire universe is made up of the same elements... so its just the way they were formed by god that made everything possible on our tiny little planet.

could you imagine how far behind ourselves we would be if we had a much larger planet to explore?

we have barely explored earth at the small size that it is.


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: Baelomor]
    #5334728 - 02/24/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Baelomor said:
Venus is so hot only because of abundance of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Its an example of what the global warming can do.
Otherwise the temepreature would reach around 150-200 degrees celcius. Thats enough for the most basic life to appear :smile:




You're right about the greenhouse gasses, my mistake.

Have a nice day  :shineon:  :mushroom2:


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: jmg5]
    #5335189 - 02/24/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it is said after evolution spiritual and beliefs were thought of by earlier ancestors of the human race, enities were created in the mind and influenced. Perhaps were a pimple or a cause of someone or somethings gas problem, which in turn created our thought of universe. We dont know is what im saying our theories mean absolutely nothing especially since they can be easily clouded in situations like these. I truely believe whatever is down right true so I believe in the right thing. I dont know what it is but whatever it is it can do what it wants to me, if I goto a hell because of not devoting myself to a belief I have no idea is a proper/true belief then so be it I believe what ever should be believed even though right now I dont know in the end im sure I will. I too questioned where these gases and whatnots came from that formed our universe but its PB we just dont know and possibly never will unless we are told/influenced by someone or something and even then I would want the absolute truth prooven to me untill I give up what "might" be the right belief I've yet to discover. I think we just made up the whole "God" thing but again not my place to say I dont understand/know so therefore anything I assume is bs.

Though I can say what I want after I perish, a lose of emotion and constant mind weight and stress I want bliss I want total nothingness. Im not scared of that, im scared of an internal life of torture or total life of what "God" sees as a good/right thing. Our bible has been rewritten and most of it abolished during the rise of the monarchy? the church or w/e. They altered the beliefs and bible and dont forget "man" made the bible.


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

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Edited by Savako (02/24/06 03:09 PM)


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #5338245 - 02/25/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

haha bro, no offence but that was a bunch of scally wag!

thats the only way to sum up that paragraph! its hard to keep up with your typing.

whew!


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

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"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: agoutihead]
    #5338467 - 02/25/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Existance and life are just an explosion on a cosmic scale...


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5338539 - 02/25/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, its the 1st law of Thermodynamics - energy can not be created or destroyed, simply converted.

Your spin puts a bit of a dunno, 'new-age spiritual twist' on it I suppose. Not saying I agree or disagree, I just wouldnt put it the way that you did.

When we die, our body decays and becomes part of the earth again. Then what happens to the 'other' stuff that makes us us - our consciousness, soul, our thoughts/memories/etc - where that goes to is anyone's guess. I have my own thoughts/theories on that, but my head is to tired to get into it right now.


Edited by kaniz (02/25/06 05:24 PM)


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: kaniz]
    #5338617 - 02/25/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the separation of consciousness and the soul from the rest of the stuff that makes us what we are is a completely different issue. The universe and the matter that makes the physical us all started off as pure energy at some point that condensed into the matter we all are now. The third law of thermodynamics states that as the entropy of a system approaches a constant the temperature of that system approaches absolute zero, a state lacking free energy. As the universe continues to expand physically, The initial energy present in the universe should end up being bound up into matter as the entropy of the system that is the universe increases approaching a constant. Eventually when all that energy is bound up into matter the explosion will be over.

So unless there's an even bigger set of systems than the universe feeding energy into our universe it could get awfully chilly in here.


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Re: life: every atom in our body is star dust..... technically we were born in a "Star nursery" [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5338778 - 02/25/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

k well at the beginning (~14bill years relative to us) there was nothing but hydrogen and helium...which is what fuels the stars. stars formed, through nuclear fusion made heavier and heavier elements. so yes we are star dust (what parts of us aren't hydrogen or helium)


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