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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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wellllll

he doesnt talk like he usually does. he inserts all kind of 'ghetto slang'and he has an accent. he must have rap playing at full blast wherever he goes. once hes really drunk, he starts flowing along to the rap that is playing at full blast. he dances around like hes black. he looses all respect he has for anyone. he doesn't have an 'inside' voice anymore. if we go to a party he is suddently best friends with all the black guys there. and often times gets them to drop a beat while he flows to it.

now im not saying hes turning into a black man. i think hes just turning into what he thinks a black man is. seeing as he has no black friends, and our other roomate is an avid racist (im living by myself next year...).

what makes it so...dramatic i guess you could say is seeing this kid on a normal day. hes a typical jewish kid whos biggest hobby is playing golf.


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
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A racist, a jew that turns black with alcohol, and Bob Jones are all living together. Now if that's not the makings of a joke I don't know what is.


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
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daimyo said:
A racist, a jew that turns black with alcohol, and Bob Jones are all living together. Now if that's not the makings of a joke I don't know what is.


Sounds like a good pilot for a sitcom.

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Silversoul]
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"No one" is an absolutism, thats true. The American situation is particularly explosive though. I'm not saying Europe is better or BS like that, but it's diffent, less polarized. In Europe there is a battlefield whereas in America there is a trench war thats been going on way too long.

You guys need to urgently get along or the situation blows up and then the entire world has a problem which is different yet similar to Europe's problem in the 1940s. I see the US political climate (and I mean the powers that be) as alot closer to 1930s Germany than I'd like it to be.

As for the N-word. Now I'm sorry people but no matter which dictionary you quote, the dictionary in most people's heads clearly says the N-word is a disparaging word reserved for people of African descent. It has always meant that and its pure academic semantics to claim otherwise.
In the dictionary, perhaps, but not in the real world.

The thread topic is "What do you think of white people who try to act black?" so let's stick to that.

I hear the word wigger.

Now excuse my ignorance but isnt wigger and whigger a contraction of white n*gger and isn't the "white" part an adjective that signifies a difference from the usual meaning of the word?

If n*gger is disparaging then so is wigger. Fact of the matter is that we are talking about "white people acting black" and immediately words like disgusting, wigger and n*gger are used.

Why would it be wrong if somebody crosses over to "the other side" of the polarisation? It comes across like it goesd deeper than the thug fashion but that it rather is a bad thing to admire black culture, that such is somehow such a thing as "race treason".
Wake up people.


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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damn wiggers.....


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
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he doesnt talk like he usually does. he inserts all kind of 'ghetto slang'and he has an accent. he must have rap playing at full blast wherever he goes. once hes really drunk, he starts flowing along to the rap that is playing at full blast. he dances around like hes black. he looses all respect he has for anyone. he doesn't have an 'inside' voice anymore. if we go to a party he is suddently best friends with all the black guys there. and often times gets them to drop a beat while he flows to it.


He is a closet negro  :shocked:

Damn, this race stuff is a minefield.
Well he clearly (at least to me) wants to belong and wants to cross the invisible barrier, clumsily perhaps. It might be that he embarassingly tries to belong (which happens to all of us at one time or another) but in my view that's the whole extent of the drama.

Being Jewish and living with "an avid racist" doesnt help so perhaps the two of you should stay and mr avid should move. (i dunno the specifics, mind you)

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i think hes just turning into what he thinks a black man is (..) he looses all respect he has for anyone


Now that's sad. Still, respectlessness isn't a "black thing".
So he becomes awkward.. Hardly disgusting I'd say.


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Rude black person = nigger
Rude white person = wigger

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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:braindamage:

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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Wigger is extensively used on white supremacist/white power/neonazi type forums. I've never heard it used in a positive way.

The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.

At first I thought a wigger was something like a hatter but then for wigs :grin:

But alas sweet innocence, I all too soon found out what it meant years ago.


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.



Now notice that I gave a definition specificly to remove the confusion that you speak of.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nigger

nig?ger (ngr) KEY

NOUN:
Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for a Black person: "You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger" (James Baldwin).
Used as a disparaging term for a member of any dark-skinned people.
Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: "Gun owners are the new niggers . . . of society" (John Aquilino).

I used definition #2.

Definition number 2 is not racist.

Racism is not an issue in America. The issue is dumbasses trying to make every discussion a discussion involving racism.

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold]
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Now that's sad. Still, respectlessness isn't a "black thing".
So he becomes awkward.. Hardly disgusting I'd say.


i was just describing all the ways he changes, not all the ways he resembles someone thats black. i re-read it and it sounded bad, but i had to run and couldnt change it.

oh and i dont think its disgusting, just mildly amusing, and a tad bit annoying when im trying to go to sleep and hes blaring music in the living room.
and one last thing...the racist and the jew wigger are best friends. and i think im just realizing how funny this situation is...


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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
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Well, I must say that some parts of this thread are fascinating. I truly love discussing subjects of importance that are somewhat taboo.

My opinion on the matter is that there are good and bad people within every ethnic, cultural, and sub-cultural group. I've met white people that were cool and I've met white people that were assholes. I've met black people who were cool and I've met black people who were assholes. I've met rich people who were nice and I've met rich people who were stuck-up snobs. I've met "wiggers" who were nice and I've met wiggers who were obnoxious fucks.

Some very interesting questions have been raised by this thread. Why do some people become so irked when one of their own rejects their parent culture to pursue another image or lifestyle? Is this phenomenon just inherent in America (as progressives seem to think) or is it present in every society and in every age? Why do some people automatically and completely stereotype another group and judge that entire group based upon the actions of the "worst" of that group?

Why do some people relish rejecting their parent culture (the contrarians)? Why do some people relish supporting their parent culture (the traditionalists)?

What are the psychological underpinnings of these attitudes which manifest themselves in human beings?

Edited by RandalFlagg (02/14/06 07:25 PM)

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Why would it be wrong if somebody crosses over to "the other side" of the polarisation? It comes across like it goesd deeper than the thug fashion but that it rather is a bad thing to admire black culture, that such is somehow such a thing as "race treason".
Wake up people.


The thing is, wiggers don't admire black culture, they just try to emulate what they think being black is. What they think being black is comes from things like movies and music, which just offer up a glamorized view of the gangster culture, not actual black culture which surely entails more than listening to rap, wearing baggy FUBU clothes, and using "black" slang. Most wiggers that I've known have no actual experience with black culture, they only have experience with rap culture. They hang out with whites, in white dominated areas, and aside from holding the gangster/rap culture in high esteem, some of them are actually racist.

Its not just us whities that hate the way wiggers act, black people hate it as well. Wiggers sure aren't embraced by blacks. My high school had a bigger population of wiggers than it did blacks yet I don't remember ever seeing any intermingling between the two groups. The blacks weren't just you're stereotypical gangstas and there were some that hung out in pretty much every type of clique(jocks, nerds, preps, etc...), but just not with the wiggers. My guess is that this is due to the fact that most wiggers "act a fool" in their impersonation of black culture.

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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Wigger is extensively used on white supremacist/white power/neonazi type forums. I've never heard it used in a positive way.

The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.

At first I thought a wigger was something like a hatter but then for wigs :grin:

But alas sweet innocence, I all too soon found out what it meant years ago.


I've seen the word "wigger" used in everything from joking and non-serious banter to merely defining white people who are into hip-hop and all the way to definate slurs meant to hurt.  It is used in a lot of contexts in America and it isn't always a slur. 

When I use the word "wigger" I am describing a white person who has significantly embraced black urban culture.  I don't view that as an insult.

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