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What do you think of white people who try to act black?
#5295369 - 02/13/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Let us discuss wiggers! Today I was walking into Best Buy and this girl (who was as white as could be) was talking all "gangsta" on her cell phone.
Do you think it is entirely cool for white people to want to partake in urban culture or do you find it lame when a white person does that?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295373 - 02/13/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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live and let live friend
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295375 - 02/13/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I despise them...actually, they just annoy me to an extent almost unparalleled.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295377 - 02/13/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I sometimes use ghetto language in a light-hearted, kidding sort of way. It's off tha hizzle.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: demiu5]
#5295410 - 02/13/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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demius said: I despise them...actually, they just annoy me to an extent almost unparalleled.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: demiu5]
#5295427 - 02/13/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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um...there is such thing as a white urban kid. most of these "wiggers" ,or white people acting black, would be just as retarded if they werent trying to emulate urban culture
im getting ahead of myself. to answer your question, yes i think it is entirely cool for white people to want to partake in urban culture.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295433 - 02/13/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I usually imagine myself taking a really huge dump whenever I see them. Why? Because I'd rather be taking a shit than having to look at their sorry excuse for a person.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Snip]
#5295437 - 02/13/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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those are just people that are too ignorant to know who they really are, so they take what they think is tuff.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Snip]
#5295439 - 02/13/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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fuckin' Trustafarians, on her cell to her 'homies' mater and pater to get some more ghetto credits deposited.....
ain't got no time for fakers.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295441 - 02/13/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiggers are pathetic. Moreso than hippies, at least wiggers spend money on clothes and don't smell like a trashcan.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295446 - 02/13/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I truthfully don't care. I don't associate myself with people like that. If wiggers try to talk to me like that, I tell them I can't understand what they're saying. They either stop talking to me and go away, or miraculously they speak like they should.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#5295453 - 02/13/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha, I'll have to try that sometime.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: demiu5]
#5295495 - 02/13/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think that it is stupid that becouse 98% of black guys are in to hip hop shit that when white poeple like hip hop they are told they are "acting black". The other day I watched a show and a white guy was in africa and this tribe he was with scared and cut them slefs for fun. It is suposse to get them used to pain or some shit. They had a razor and where cutting patterns in to like three poeple and then with the same razor this white guy let them cut him. Now this is "acting like black poeple",I mean shit has he ever heard of AIDS? I belive there are possers of every type. Poeple poss as hippies (darma & greg) people pose as punks ( Good charlet) people pose as pyschos (slipknot) the topic of this thread should be posers not not "white people who act black".Most poeple will act like the people that they grew up around.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Rylmonkey]
#5295499 - 02/13/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rylmonkey said: those are just people that are too ignorant to know who they really are, so they take what they think is tuff.
"who they really are"
who are they, really? Being a white person, I'm curious.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: MisterMyco]
#5295540 - 02/13/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMyco said: Wiggers are pathetic. Moreso than hippies, at least wiggers spend money on clothes and don't smell like a trashcan.
I never known any hippies that smell like trashcans.All the ones I know are clean and take pride in themselves. I do. I'm a child of the 60's.
As for wiggers I get a laugh.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295560 - 02/13/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most of us are posing as something we are not. Its the nature of human ego, we all have it to a certain extent. This being the millionth "Randalflag finds something wrong with black culture" thread. What is the real issue? Can you not readily admit that you are at least somewhat racist? Were you victimized by African-Americans in the past, or were you raised that way?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: onetime]
#5295566 - 02/13/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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onetime said: Poeple poss as hippies (darma & greg)
Did this blow anybody elses mind?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: KaptKid]
#5295581 - 02/13/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Way to lump people into a category. I'v seen as many "fake" hippies, as i have "fake" black people.
Stop trying to judge entire groups of people based on vauge guidlines. And start treating people on an individual bases.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Prof_Farnsworth]
#5295594 - 02/13/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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People aren't individuals when they try to conform to a social clique.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Prof_Farnsworth]
#5295600 - 02/13/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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they probably dont have a lot of confidence
best not to critique even the most annoying of public places people choose to act weird in
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: LuciferSam]
#5295610 - 02/13/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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many white hip-hop kids i have met have been chill as fuck. too bad that they are all "fake" for seeing past their skin color and acknowledging who they are.
personally, i could care less how they present themselves because once i look closer i discover some of them are actually pretty damn cool.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5295620 - 02/13/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: People aren't individuals when they try to conform to a social clique.
I agree with you, but this thread implies that black or white are social cliques. Which is ig'nant, money.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295658 - 02/13/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You are talking about white suburbanites correct? If so, I agree with you.
However, of course white peoples who grew up around mainly blacks are going to be influenced by the culture.
Have you ever met a black kid who grew up in an all white town? Is he trying to act/be white?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5295660 - 02/13/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: People aren't individuals when they try to conform to a social clique.
lol sure they are. maybe you just havent gotten to know enough people close enough to realize this. the opposite attitude has helped me branch out beyond my group of friends and meet some really interesting characters, jordons or not.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Snip]
#5295671 - 02/13/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whatever, I hate people.
I'd rather not get to know them.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295699 - 02/13/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiggers are lame. 'Nuff said.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295701 - 02/13/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess you could call me a 'whigger' in some ways, but I've never consciously tried to act black. I just have a lot of black friends and their lingo and mannerisms rub off on me.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5295702 - 02/13/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha no worries, each to their own.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Snip]
#5295708 - 02/13/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i used to think "wiggers" were lame, that was until i stumbled onto some cool kids and good hip-hop
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Prof_Farnsworth]
#5295813 - 02/13/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Prof_Farnsworth said: This being the millionth "Randalflag finds something wrong with black culture" thread. What is the real issue? Can you not readily admit that you are at least somewhat racist? Were you victimized by African-Americans in the past, or were you raised that way?
I was not proclaiming that anything was wrong with black culture by asking this question. I was asking a real and legitimate cultural/social question.
I have questions that pertain to white people too. Like why do all preppy white women drive right up on the steering wheel like they have a stick up their ass?
P.S. That was just all a lie. When I was young I was in the locker room and I saw a black man take his pants off and his penis was enormous. Ever since then I have seethed with jealousy and quiet rage.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295843 - 02/13/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the fact of the matter is that black culture has been slipping into the mainstream for quite some time now. 20 or 30 years ago 'giving someone 5' was considered 'acting black', but now the action of slapping someone's palm doesn't really carry much of a racial stigma.
personally, I have freinds from all over the world, and all of them have, to some degree, influenced the way I 'act'. Its always been my belief that as an American, I have a right to claim any culture I want. WTF is wrong with that?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#5295852 - 02/13/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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mattzdope said: You are talking about white suburbanites correct? If so, I agree with you.
However, of course white peoples who grew up around mainly blacks are going to be influenced by the culture.
Have you ever met a black kid who grew up in an all white town? Is he trying to act/be white?
Exactly. I am talking about white kids who have grown up in very white areas and they have intentionally adopted the "hip-hop" urban look and lifestyle. This question can also pertain to a black person who grows up in the ghetto and then becomes very "white-acting". It fascinates me when somebody deviates from their cultural base. What causes them to do this? These are interesting anthropological questions.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295863 - 02/13/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I for one am glad I am not black, too much pressure if you ask me. Imagine being black and having a small penis? There would be no excuse.
Atleast being white, its kind of expected.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295875 - 02/13/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mine is enourmous... i don't know what your talking about... 
I look like a straight up stereotypical white dude... but I listen to rap. I was the only white dude in a couple of the shows I went to to watch some of the rappers I like... it doesn't really bother me. I don't try to act "black" or anything. I don't sound like I'm from the 'hood... it's culture that I enjoy, but I wasn't raised to sound like a hoodrat. I feel that a lot of black people have to be the minority in a lot of situations, so it's only fair that I feel that part too when I hang out with the brothers... but no one has ever given me any trouble about it, everyone has always been pretty cool with me.
But those kids who pratically deny they are white and try so damn hard to sound like a hard nigga drive me nuts!! I can't stand that shit cause it makes them look retarded, like they're just trying too hard.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5295883 - 02/13/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: personally, I have freinds from all over the world, and all of them have, to some degree, influenced the way I 'act'. Its always been my belief that as an American, I have a right to claim any culture I want. WTF is wrong with that?
It seems as if some of you are mistaking my questions for hostility. I assure you that I wanted a legitimate discussion and not a "let's diss wiggers" kind of thing. I myself listen to rap (Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, Eazy-E, N.W.A., etc..).
I have black friends! I swear!!!! 
Now, I will readily admit that I despise the "I want to look tough...I'm such a badass" wiggers. But, I also hate the stuck-up "I'm better than everybody because I have a Mercedes" yuppies.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295898 - 02/13/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I'm better than everybody because I have a Mercedes" yuppies.
Like Seth Green in Can't Hardly Wait? hahaha, yea they're annoying as hell too. I always wanna punch 'em and steal their cell phones...
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5295899 - 02/13/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't get any hostility from you, but there were some pretty ignorant posts from others.
on any given day, I might be driving down the road in my riceburner, wearing kabbahlic jewelry, italian glasses, a swiss watch, and listening to Wu-Tang on the radio all at the same time. So I guess that makes me a WhItaliaAsiaJewNigger.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5295911 - 02/13/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You are truely multicultural... I can't say that.... I'm rolling in my beater-ass geo metro, wearing beat up jeans and a t-shirt and a baseball cap, with my $30 dollar watch that's waterproof ( awwww yea, pimpin'!!) and my trashy brown shoes. I look white trash... and I love it.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5296104 - 02/13/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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werd G! represent your hood boi! southside 4 life biatch!
i fuckin hate wiggers..... i listen to rap n hiphop all the freakin time, but im no where clsoe to bein a wigger... fuckin wiggers...
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: eligal]
#5296111 - 02/13/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, I can ride around and listen to some nigga music, hang out in a club thats 98% black, and still talk, dress and "act white", whatever the fuck that means
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: MisterMyco]
#5296117 - 02/13/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMyco said: Yea, I can ride around and listen to some nigga music, hang out in a club thats 98% black, and still talk, dress and "act white", whatever the fuck that means
exactly!! 
you werent being sarcastic right?? lol. because its true!
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5296164 - 02/13/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really don't understand why people on this board sometimes fall into prejudices like these... I don't really think any of us have the right to judge anyone, and the insights of mushrooms, which is the common thread between all of you, only made this clearer, at least for me.
Why can't a white person act like that? Why is that way of acting particularly black? Because black people more often live in areas where that is the predominant culture, but these areas are not completely void of white people.
People are not less intelligent or capable of emotion or feeling because they talk differently. Same goes for "emo" kids that are so often mocked here and any other uninformed stereotype.
I just dont understand the logic of any of this.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: mmarc]
#5296198 - 02/13/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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mmarc said: I really don't understand why people on this board sometimes fall into prejudices like these... I don't really think any of us have the right to judge anyone, and the insights of mushrooms, which is the common thread between all of you, only made this clearer, at least for me.
Why can't a white person act like that? Why is that way of acting particularly black? Because black people more often live in areas where that is the predominant culture, but these areas are not completely void of white people.
People are not less intelligent or capable of emotion or feeling because they talk differently. Same goes for "emo" kids that are so often mocked here and any other uninformed stereotype.
I just dont understand the logic of any of this.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: trendal]
#5297719 - 02/14/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn wiggers...
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Well, "acting black" is really an accent or a dialect, it's not like it's genetic or anything.
So if a white kid is raised in an area surrounded by blacks, and grew up with blacks, then naturally they're going to talk like that. One thing I've noticed about living in Canada is that most of the blacks up here talk like white people. Americans find that weird sometimes, but it's just about who you grow up with.
But if you grow up speaking one way, and then take on another dialect/accent just to sound cool, that's kinda weird. Sometimes people toss in a few colloquialisms as a joke, but adapting that entire pattern of speech is kind of fake.
But even if you grew up talking that way, and then starting hanging out with black people all the time, you're bound to start talking like they do a bit, that's just how the human brain works, you adapt the speech patterns of those around you.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Phluck]
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this tpoicis actually rather wide. theres alot of different places in america, all of which have wiggers. now, you got white kids who grow up on the outskirts of black ghettos, they they are involved with the blacks more than other whites. so in that case its fine, ill let that shit slide. but then you go to beverly hills and got the same shit... wtf. then you go to the mid west, to an all white neighborhood, and again, same shit. and honestly, i dont see too many white boys, no matter how poor they are, being able to mix that much with the blacks, they might go to school together, but they dont mix like that. and those schools that they go to on the ghetto outskirts, the blacks arent as afroed out as the deep ghetto kids. so there cant be that many. i know that here in cali, there are alot of places white people jsut cant go to, they will be shot. places like this being parts of long beach, parts of compton, parts of south central, etc etc. then new york its the same (the boyfriend of my dads girlfriends daughter took a job as a mail man and got sent to deliver mail somewhere in a ghetto in connecticut, and he got shewed up, pissed his pants, cause they would chase his truck with pit bulls and yell at him threatin him. that job didnt last... lol.
my point is, there are white kids who were influence by blacks to the point where they wil lget black haircuts at the blacks barbershop, that they will talk jyve (however you spell that), etc. but most wiggers arent from those places. and those are the kids i have no respect for.
damn wiggers.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5298763 - 02/14/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
With that said, I admit it is those who are born and raised in the whitest of all towns in the middle of a rural countryside, suddenly try ridiculously hard to shake off their whiteness and be rebels by imitating the black people that they see everyday - only on MTV, who can rather abrasive and thus, irritating. They often try ridiculously hard to make sure their articles of clothing are triple-oversized and baggy enough to smuggle Volkswagens in, and walk with a gait that screams "Yo, chek dis shiet, I be hardcore, I got mad identity crisis up in my head, yo. Don't FUCK wit ME.", and promote the excessive use of slangs, butchered words, dialects that would otherwise be the result of an actual education deficiency, and attitudes which reek of rebelliousness with as much meaning as a brick of ice in Alaska.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said: Do you think it is entirely cool for white people to want to partake in urban culture or do you find it lame when a white person does that?
Lame, but it's their choice.
However, the rich ones are a profitable demographic. Willing to buy guns, drugs, and clothes for way more than they are worth. As long as they're lining pockets, they can stay.
The poor ones on the other hand, they are just useless. Most of the time they end up getting knocked out on the corner and give up their thuggish ways.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
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Quickly while we're on the topic, i'd just like to take this opportunity to apologise on behalf of my country for the King of All Wiggers, Tim Westwood.
As a nation, we are all more ashamed of and infuriated by this pathetic little maggot farmer than we are of the royal family.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: trendal]
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Trend, you're Canadian so I respond to you 
I find it to be interesting to observe threads like this one. It's well-known the USA has hangups about race and it's interesting to watch it all unfold and how people navigate in the web of race relations. It's a very tricky subject.
"white people who try to act black" you could write an essay about that 
I feel it's a shame we don't have a sizable black american Shroomerite community to balance things out a bit.
There is so much alienation here, there at some point has to be an exchange of sorts to defuse the scaryness of "the other side" because tension keeps building. This really is alot like the Cold War.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Hangups about race have no boundaries.
The thread is about idiots seeking the coolness at the cost of who they really are.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold]
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Hangups about race have no boundaries.
Touch?, but American culture has an unique situation if you look at the past.
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The thread is about idiots seeking the coolness at the cost of who they really are.
I hope you don't mean race = identity.
Most of what I see discussed here is about whites heavily indulging in hiphop culture which is adhered to by mostly black people.
If a black guy is really into hollywood-movies, that doesnt make him a wannabe-white guy does it?
And why is a white guy who acts "black" gazed upon as disgusting whereas a black guy acting "white" is not?
Kids going to extremes is race and era-independent. What is so particularly bad about a white kid embracing what he percieves to be black culture? Why is it such a taboo to cross the invisible line in the cafetaria and eat your lunch with the black kids?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold] 1
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I agree that you should only judge individuals and their unique character, rather than groups as broad as 'white people who try to act black', I've had this discussion quite a few times and its easy to start sounding ignorant/racist if you categorize people.
That being said, white OR black, people that try to act tough and talk like thugs do annoy me. But usually if they're black, you kind of give them the OK whereas if they're white you might be more inclined to think of them as a poser. This is discrimination and you should be wary of it. Don't pass judgement just based on that.
In my experience, white people who act "ghetto" tend to be less intelligent, less respectful, and a lot more reckless in their behavior. I'm not implying any causality, just noting some common characteristics.
I, myself, would never want to model this type of behavior, but what do you think are some reasons people justify it?
I could say the same for hippies. When I went to see Phish, I noticed a lot of disrespectful assholes, drugged out lowlifes, etc., but I go to another show of almost equal musical genre the crowd could APPEAR exactly the same on the outside but in reality they end up proving to be much better people, more use of manners and and lot more friendliness and respect for others. It is, thus, I think dangerous to committ yourself fully to any one culture, whether it be a thug or a hippie, unless you're willing to accept the consequences which include the fact that you're probably going to get judged. I think thats why a lot of people, myself included, realize at some point in their life that its better to sort of blend in and find other ways to still be their own very unique individual.
For me, I want to have an edge in everything I do practically, so when it comes to the way I dress, I don't want to dress goth because there's no reason for me to give the impression I might be a psycho, and I don't want to be a thug because again there's nothing desirable about it fo rme. I dress somewhat casually with a little bit of a hippy/skater edge because a) I like the styles and the ability to be creative with them and b) you do tend to dress like the groups of peers you enjoy being a part of. This is not a rule, just a tendency. I create my own personal style through subtle things like custom t-shirts or necklaces or whatever. But I do try to blend in somewhat because I don't want to be put into a category of people notorious for being ignorant assholes, and I want people to look past my rather simple clothes so they're more likely to want to just get to know me first. You're going to be judged no matter what, but there is a level of control you have that should not be dismissed. Trying to minimize how much initial judgement you take on by the way you talk/dress, this is a noble goal for me and others, in my opinion, since it's likely to open up more opportunities and thus increase lifelong happiness. Whether or not I accomplish this feat at all, I cannot say just yet, but that's sort of the logic behind the way I dress. What I can't understand is why someone would want to dress in a way that hinders their opportunities -- do they not understand this, or do they just not care?
Moving to the subject of language, for instance, I have friends who constantly use the F-bomb, loudly nonetheless, in public, and sometimes its kind of embarassing to be around. But if I ask them, nicely, to try and curb it, they'll stare at me like I'm asking some ridiculous favor (as if it's really that important to use obscene words that ultimately do not add anything to the substance/meaning of a sentence?). Where they're from, I guess it is acceptable and maybe commonplace, or maybe their parents were potty-mouths as well and so they have no reason to reject it. But where I'm from, dropping the f-bomb in public gets you a lot of dirty looks and is generally considered very disrespectful, especially in the presence of children. Does the fact that they grew up around it justify their continued use of it here? Or do you think they ought to break the habit and realize that they might have been raised a bit off-color? The perpetrator almost always will defend and continue their use, even if knowledgeably confronted.
Some people will say "live and let live" but I think when it comes to things like respect, no you do not have a right to use the f-bomb in front of my 3-year old just because you happened to grow up around it. That's not live and let live, because they're living but they're not letting me raise my daughter according to the MORE common social norm (which is to refrain from using the f-bomb around small children) Just because you don't see any harm in it, doesn't mean there is no harm in it. Respect for others is something a lot of parents seem to be forgetting to teach their kids these days, and needs to be incorporated into the "live and let live" principle.
This begs the question, should "thugs" keep up the act when they move someplace where its not really the norm? OR, how often do they? Or should we say go ahead, it's your roots, and if you contaminate our more elegant language use with your slang and improper grammar, well that's just the nature of the beast.
It seems to me that most of the people speaking "ebonics" have an extreme lack of vocabulary and some are simply trying to cover it up , maybe subconsciously, by adapting a less-stringent form of English. That or they just choose not to use a more advanced vocabulary, which doesn't really make sense when most people feel misunderstood enough, why would they want to worsen that by effectively dumbing down their communication level?
So it's not the fact that they talk or dress differently that annoys me, that's their right, but it's the fact that they are content with using the same 3rd-grade level vocabulary a crackhead bum might have started.
Take the phrase "an exponential increase"...it could be applied to millions of ideas, and is a very important idea to understand when it comes to just about any real-world issue, but how would one convey that phrase in ebonics in equal or less words? My point is that why are the same people who are hungry for power/control settling for ebonics which hinders both their power and control of a social situation? And what would be the benefit, if any, of sticking with ebonics, or than to fit in? Perhaps we should be disciplining kids in public schools for not using proper english?
Hope this rant wasn't too long, but I'm interested to hear someone else's thoughts on my theories.
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Touch?, but American culture has an unique situation if you look at the past.
False. America was not the last country to abolish slavery(in fact, it still exists in some countries) and is certainly not the only country with race problems(look at South Africa, for instance).
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Also, I'd like to add that I'm far more concerned about black kids "acting black." That is, I hate the fact that have this idea that being educated and getting ahead in this world is somehow "acting white." They have become racist against themselves, and they need to overcome this if they want to be truly respected in this world.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Silversoul]
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Agreed, and I sort of highlight this in my post above.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: And why is a white guy who acts "black" gazed upon as disgusting whereas a black guy acting "white" is not?
Because we're all a bunch of whites. If you ask blacks what they think of the black who acts white, you'll get much of the same. Race is something that is cherished by many, and diluting it through mixing and assimilation is seen as an abomination.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: What is so particularly bad about a white kid embracing what he percieves to be black culture?
Nothing. If they want to form an African tribe and do African rituals, so be it. If they want to eat jerk food every day and think of themselves as Jamaican, so be it. It's when they start talking like uneducated fools, and fancying themselves as pimps and pushers that things turn.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Why is it such a taboo to cross the invisible line in the cafetaria and eat your lunch with the black kids?
Abandoning your race/culture is heavy stuff.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Silversoul]
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False. America was not the last country to abolish slavery(in fact, it still exists in some countries) and is certainly not the only country with race problems(look at South Africa, for instance).
It's the nature of the situation that makes the US unique. The descendents of the former slaves live in the same country as the descendents of their oppressors. There's the civil rights issues which resolved mostly only recently. You have a two-party system. Amewrica presents a unique situation and a very visble one as to most people the US is the best-known foreign country.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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The thread is about idiots seeking the coolness at the cost of who they really are.
I hope you don't mean race = identity.
I don't.
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Most of what I see discussed here is about whites heavily indulging in hiphop culture which is adhered to by mostly black people.
True, but the intent of the threadstarter, RandallFlag, has specificly outlined that this is not the case.
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If a black guy is really into hollywood-movies, that doesnt make him a wannabe-white guy does it?
No and what says that's a white characteristic? And by that train of thought I can't eat at KFC anymore without being called a wigger.
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Kids going to extremes is race and era-independent. What is so particularly bad about a white kid embracing what he percieves to be black culture?
Nothing but abandoning your own is bad.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
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Abandoning your race/culture is heavy stuff.
Explain that one to me. It emphasizes the invisible border that's at the heart of this thread.
Thug/skater/goth/whatever is only secondary to this being a race thing. There is no right or wrong here but why is embracing a "non-white" culture a form of treason? Thats not a melting pot and not a salad bowl. Thats a civil war.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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Some a my best freinds from the days gone are red neck wiggers. Whats so bad about it? We are still cool. They aren't black, but are extremely poor and have taking to identifying with black people becuase the media has made poor synonomous with gangsta.
While they cretainly aren't "gangasta" there are some similarities, I won't cite them here, but anyone who has ever had friends in the ghetto know how they live for the most part. I can understand their positions.
I myself am a recovering wigger.
Anyone who hates a wigger fro the simple fact they are wiggers is obviously uncomfortable with their understanding of what it measn to be white. Are you that insecure about your position as a white person you have to hate on a person who is white and identifies more with a black person?
Lame.
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It's the nature of the situation that makes the US unique. The descendents of the former slaves live in the same country as the descendents of their oppressors. There's the civil rights issues which resolved mostly only recently. You have a two-party system. Amewrica presents a unique situation and a very visble one as to most people the US is the best-known foreign country.
What? I think the rest of the world is just jealous of us Americans and want to pick us apart. Anyone have a valid argument?
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Wiccan_Seeker said: There is no right or wrong here but why is embracing a "non-white" culture a form of treason?
That's one hell of a question. There are many contributing factors. How one is brought up, allegiance to nationality, allegiance to race, loyalty/respect/love for descendants. Then there's some who believe "we are all one" and can't get past that fact that we are not, nor will we ever be. Sure we're all human, but that's the end of it.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Thats not a melting pot and not a salad bowl. Thats a civil war.
Better believe it. Anyone that thinks racial tensions have disappeared is out of touch with society.
There was a group of blacks running around my parents neighborhood trying to "mark their turf". They would beat white kids, steal bikes, typical hooligan stuff. That went on for about a month, and finally a group of whites got together and had one stand on a corner where these blacks had beaten a few people. Sure as shit, the blacks came and started to jump him. But within seconds the whites came out and beat them with bats and chains and stabbed two of them.
The cops(white) drove by while this was going on and broke it all up. They didn't arrest anyone, and before the other units arrived they let the kids run away. Their words, "Those niggers had it coming, now get out of here and we'll say you scattered when you saw us".
And I've seen and heard of the same kind of thing happening in black neighborhoods where the cops are black. I don't know what it is, but in and around Cleveland, blacks and whites don't get along very well. If this is indicative of the way the rest of the country is, it's only a matter of time before some shit sparks off a race war.
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i really DO NOT like this at all. it seems like an ever-growing trend.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
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When we say wiggers we are not talking about white people associating with black people. We are talking about white people who try to be niggers.
Niggers: Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people. (notice no mention of skin color)
The question is... Were they deprived before they became wiggers? If yes then they are just niggers. If no, then they are dumbass wiggers.
And that's real definitions folks; ladies and gentlemen; blacks, whites and all inbetween.
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NO RACISM IN THE PUB! You're in for a ban if the modzis catch you preaching your hate filled messages of unadulterated truth.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
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That's not racist at all. I specificly used the definition in my post as to avoid confusion.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold]
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lol....
dont know about you, but ive seen niggers of all color.....
is nigger a race? got me
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But, but you used a word that is associated with racism. Surely you are a Klan member wanting to brainwash all these decent people into killing the mongrels. I am simple minded, and my delicate sense of decency and love for all has been subjected to your heinous attack.
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thanks for the laugh daimyo
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
#5299943 - 02/14/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't be a wigger!
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Schwip]
#5299947 - 02/14/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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And it would figure that a man with a Swastika in his avatar would be posting it up in the lightly veiled "I hate blacks and their ways" thread
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
#5299957 - 02/14/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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go figure
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold]
#5300029 - 02/14/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What? I think the rest of the world is just jealous of us Americans and want to pick us apart. Anyone have a valid argument?
I think you didn't understand what I meant and what I reacted to. More than half of all shroomerites are USA, that makes you americans the most readily observable group regardless where you live.
And on-context: No one is envious of the race situation in America. Like Daimyo points out: you guys are in deep shit regardless of color.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300057 - 02/14/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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my roomate is 5'2", white, and jewish.but when he starts drinking he becomes black. the way he talks, walks, his attitude, his ability to flow, its really like a dr.jekyll and mr.hyde effect. i usually just laugh and ignore him
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300079 - 02/14/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn wiggers....
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300087 - 02/14/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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bobjones said: my roomate is 5'2", white, and jewish.but when he starts drinking he becomes black. the way he talks, walks, his attitude, his ability to flow, its really like a dr.jekyll and mr.hyde effect. i usually just laugh and ignore him
ehehe, this reminds me of an old highschool friend. he wouldnt try to act black, but he would make all these jokes that were kinda similar. hed be all, "we're all black, when the lights go out" and then no matter what were were saying hed be like, "yea, but when the lights go out?"
that guy cracks me up every time
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300102 - 02/14/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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my roomate is 5'2", white, and jewish.but when he starts drinking he becomes black. the way he talks, walks, his attitude, his ability to flow
But is "becoming black" a good thing? What's a black attitude? Ability to flow?
I want to know!
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300127 - 02/14/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: And on-context: No one is envious of the race situation in America.
Tell that to the gypsies in Europe.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300135 - 02/14/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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wellllll
he doesnt talk like he usually does. he inserts all kind of 'ghetto slang'and he has an accent. he must have rap playing at full blast wherever he goes. once hes really drunk, he starts flowing along to the rap that is playing at full blast. he dances around like hes black. he looses all respect he has for anyone. he doesn't have an 'inside' voice anymore. if we go to a party he is suddently best friends with all the black guys there. and often times gets them to drop a beat while he flows to it.
now im not saying hes turning into a black man. i think hes just turning into what he thinks a black man is. seeing as he has no black friends, and our other roomate is an avid racist (im living by myself next year...).
what makes it so...dramatic i guess you could say is seeing this kid on a normal day. hes a typical jewish kid whos biggest hobby is playing golf.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300140 - 02/14/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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A racist, a jew that turns black with alcohol, and Bob Jones are all living together. Now if that's not the makings of a joke I don't know what is.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: daimyo]
#5300178 - 02/14/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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daimyo said: A racist, a jew that turns black with alcohol, and Bob Jones are all living together. Now if that's not the makings of a joke I don't know what is.
Sounds like a good pilot for a sitcom.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Silversoul]
#5300191 - 02/14/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"No one" is an absolutism, thats true. The American situation is particularly explosive though. I'm not saying Europe is better or BS like that, but it's diffent, less polarized. In Europe there is a battlefield whereas in America there is a trench war thats been going on way too long.
You guys need to urgently get along or the situation blows up and then the entire world has a problem which is different yet similar to Europe's problem in the 1940s. I see the US political climate (and I mean the powers that be) as alot closer to 1930s Germany than I'd like it to be.
As for the N-word. Now I'm sorry people but no matter which dictionary you quote, the dictionary in most people's heads clearly says the N-word is a disparaging word reserved for people of African descent. It has always meant that and its pure academic semantics to claim otherwise. In the dictionary, perhaps, but not in the real world.
The thread topic is "What do you think of white people who try to act black?" so let's stick to that.
I hear the word wigger.
Now excuse my ignorance but isnt wigger and whigger a contraction of white n*gger and isn't the "white" part an adjective that signifies a difference from the usual meaning of the word?
If n*gger is disparaging then so is wigger. Fact of the matter is that we are talking about "white people acting black" and immediately words like disgusting, wigger and n*gger are used.
Why would it be wrong if somebody crosses over to "the other side" of the polarisation? It comes across like it goesd deeper than the thug fashion but that it rather is a bad thing to admire black culture, that such is somehow such a thing as "race treason". Wake up people.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300193 - 02/14/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn wiggers.....
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300213 - 02/14/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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he doesnt talk like he usually does. he inserts all kind of 'ghetto slang'and he has an accent. he must have rap playing at full blast wherever he goes. once hes really drunk, he starts flowing along to the rap that is playing at full blast. he dances around like hes black. he looses all respect he has for anyone. he doesn't have an 'inside' voice anymore. if we go to a party he is suddently best friends with all the black guys there. and often times gets them to drop a beat while he flows to it.
He is a closet negro 
Damn, this race stuff is a minefield. Well he clearly (at least to me) wants to belong and wants to cross the invisible barrier, clumsily perhaps. It might be that he embarassingly tries to belong (which happens to all of us at one time or another) but in my view that's the whole extent of the drama.
Being Jewish and living with "an avid racist" doesnt help so perhaps the two of you should stay and mr avid should move. (i dunno the specifics, mind you)
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i think hes just turning into what he thinks a black man is (..) he looses all respect he has for anyone
Now that's sad. Still, respectlessness isn't a "black thing". So he becomes awkward.. Hardly disgusting I'd say.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300262 - 02/14/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rude black person = nigger Rude white person = wigger
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300271 - 02/14/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#5300272 - 02/14/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wigger is extensively used on white supremacist/white power/neonazi type forums. I've never heard it used in a positive way.
The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.
At first I thought a wigger was something like a hatter but then for wigs 
But alas sweet innocence, I all too soon found out what it meant years ago.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300299 - 02/14/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.
Now notice that I gave a definition specificly to remove the confusion that you speak of.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nigger
nig?ger (ngr) KEY
NOUN: Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a Black person: "You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger" (James Baldwin). Used as a disparaging term for a member of any dark-skinned people. Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: "Gun owners are the new niggers . . . of society" (John Aquilino).
I used definition #2.
Definition number 2 is not racist.
Racism is not an issue in America. The issue is dumbasses trying to make every discussion a discussion involving racism.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Cowgold]
#5300376 - 02/14/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now that's sad. Still, respectlessness isn't a "black thing". So he becomes awkward.. Hardly disgusting I'd say.
i was just describing all the ways he changes, not all the ways he resembles someone thats black. i re-read it and it sounded bad, but i had to run and couldnt change it.
oh and i dont think its disgusting, just mildly amusing, and a tad bit annoying when im trying to go to sleep and hes blaring music in the living room. and one last thing...the racist and the jew wigger are best friends. and i think im just realizing how funny this situation is...
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: bobjones]
#5300417 - 02/14/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, I must say that some parts of this thread are fascinating. I truly love discussing subjects of importance that are somewhat taboo.
My opinion on the matter is that there are good and bad people within every ethnic, cultural, and sub-cultural group. I've met white people that were cool and I've met white people that were assholes. I've met black people who were cool and I've met black people who were assholes. I've met rich people who were nice and I've met rich people who were stuck-up snobs. I've met "wiggers" who were nice and I've met wiggers who were obnoxious fucks.
Some very interesting questions have been raised by this thread. Why do some people become so irked when one of their own rejects their parent culture to pursue another image or lifestyle? Is this phenomenon just inherent in America (as progressives seem to think) or is it present in every society and in every age? Why do some people automatically and completely stereotype another group and judge that entire group based upon the actions of the "worst" of that group?
Why do some people relish rejecting their parent culture (the contrarians)? Why do some people relish supporting their parent culture (the traditionalists)?
What are the psychological underpinnings of these attitudes which manifest themselves in human beings?
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300441 - 02/14/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Why would it be wrong if somebody crosses over to "the other side" of the polarisation? It comes across like it goesd deeper than the thug fashion but that it rather is a bad thing to admire black culture, that such is somehow such a thing as "race treason". Wake up people.
The thing is, wiggers don't admire black culture, they just try to emulate what they think being black is. What they think being black is comes from things like movies and music, which just offer up a glamorized view of the gangster culture, not actual black culture which surely entails more than listening to rap, wearing baggy FUBU clothes, and using "black" slang. Most wiggers that I've known have no actual experience with black culture, they only have experience with rap culture. They hang out with whites, in white dominated areas, and aside from holding the gangster/rap culture in high esteem, some of them are actually racist.
Its not just us whities that hate the way wiggers act, black people hate it as well. Wiggers sure aren't embraced by blacks. My high school had a bigger population of wiggers than it did blacks yet I don't remember ever seeing any intermingling between the two groups. The blacks weren't just you're stereotypical gangstas and there were some that hung out in pretty much every type of clique(jocks, nerds, preps, etc...), but just not with the wiggers. My guess is that this is due to the fact that most wiggers "act a fool" in their impersonation of black culture.
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Re: What do you think of white people who try to act black? [Re: Asante]
#5300451 - 02/14/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Wigger is extensively used on white supremacist/white power/neonazi type forums. I've never heard it used in a positive way.
The problem with definitions is that we live thousands of miles apart. We have to agree on some definitions to be able to discuss. For English online I usually use dictionary.com to be sure and the urban slang dictionary to get an impression.
At first I thought a wigger was something like a hatter but then for wigs 
But alas sweet innocence, I all too soon found out what it meant years ago.
I've seen the word "wigger" used in everything from joking and non-serious banter to merely defining white people who are into hip-hop and all the way to definate slurs meant to hurt. It is used in a lot of contexts in America and it isn't always a slur.
When I use the word "wigger" I am describing a white person who has significantly embraced black urban culture. I don't view that as an insult.
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