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Offlinebassplayer74
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Larger style terrariums
    #528381 - 01/22/02 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Can some of you please post pictures of your LARGER style terrarium setups? I like the one Anno posted in the "Mushroom Pictures" forum. It's called Antonius. It looks really cool but I'm more interest in bulding my own. I want to be able to do a large number of casings in it. More shelves too. I also need to know the best method for getting an even and stable humidty level in it. Right now I have an ultrasonic humidifier and a timer. What I mean is should I have the humidity coming in through the top or bottom or sides or what? Also, should I get a cool mist humidifier instead? My humidity always seems too high. I know for casings I need about 85-93% and that just seems difficult for me to master. Am I being stupid or is there a simpler way to get the humidity right?


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #528716 - 01/23/02 01:15 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #528774 - 01/23/02 02:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

A few weeks ago I converted a large plastic shelf from Home Depot into a large terrarium.. unfortunately I don't have a camera...but here is what I did:

~Got a large plastic 5 shelf system at home depot (about 5' high, 3' wide, 2' deep) - $30

~Got 2 rolls of 4 mil. thick plastic sheeting - $5

~Duct Tape - $3

~5 36" long magnet strips - $18

~Marine Goop - $5

1. Wrapped the entire shelf with plastic tightly (except front) and held in place with duct tape. Two layers of tape for an insured seal.

2. Cut a flap of plastic large enough to cover the front, duct tape to top to hang down in desired location

3. Place magnet strips all along the perimeter of the front and stick in place

4. Take another set of magnet strips and make them the exact same as the ones already on the shelf by attracting them together (the second set sticky side out) and cut to desired length.

5. Remove protective paper from magnets and apply a nice bead of goop down the entire magnet

6. Carefully fold the plastic flap down and stick to the magnets making sure not to leave any air gaps.

7. Let dry - 24 hours later you have a magnetic sealed fruiting chamber capable of holding many casings. (Mine holds 12 large casings)

8. Attach a humidifer via garden hose or PVC. I prefer cool mist because it allows constant gas exchange.

Of course after I spent many hours on this project I see this martha stewart closet and the Ikea ready-made terrariums. If I had known I probably just would have gone to Ikea, the zipper seal is nice. But I kind of like my new setup and its magnet seal.
Just put three casings in it an hour ago..see how it does.


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #528782 - 01/23/02 02:46 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah I have a Duracraft whisper mist humidifier with a garden hose going out it and the original hole is sealed. (Duct Tape) I also taped a filter disc over the air intake for good luck. :laugh: The hose is going into a 5-way manifold (left over from my old setup for multiple terrariums) With two hoses coming out...one going straight to the top and across the center of the ceiling with small holes drilled in it... and the other goes in at the bottom. Though I am pretty sure you would be fine with just one hose.. I am just too lazy to change it

It seems to be working well though... when I tested the terrarium with no casings the humidifier could only get it up to 75% rh, but after I put the casings in today, it jumped up to 95% and stayed there...perrrfect. 


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #528940 - 01/23/02 10:09 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Some may frown upon my setup, but here goes;
4x6x6 plywood box, with a 2x4' door on 'er, one side has 6" b/w shelves, and the other has 10. humidifier is sitting right in the terrarium, its a cool mist unit with a humidstat so she shuts down at around 95%. and the bottom has a fishtank bubbler going tjhrough a filter stone, into a bottle of water, and in the top of it, theres a filter disc (actually from a mask... 99.97% mask filter) The inside is painted with a polyurethane floor paint with about 3 coats on it, adn is completely calked using a bathroom/kitchen calk.
What can you say about this setup?


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: cookiewhore]
    #528962 - 01/23/02 11:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

wow that beats my setup.. a small cardboard box and 4 plastic bags. hehehee


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: ]
    #529137 - 01/23/02 03:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks...I'm now thinking about getting one of those plastic shelving units from Home Depot. It seems like it would work fine. I have an ultrasonic humidifier though. Whats the difference between it and a cool mist? Also, will the humidity coming in from the top be enough to keep the air moving and fresh on all the shelves? Thanks...bassplayer74


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #529144 - 01/23/02 03:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The only problem I could see with an ultrasonic with this setup is that it would not provide enough air exchange as you would have to have it on a timer to control the humidity. With a cool mist I am able to keep it running 24/7 and keeps it at the right humidity, and constant air exchange.
If you are going to use the ultrasonic, perhaps you could rig a fan up in there but that might lower the humidity. I don't know though..I've never used an ultrasonic... I'm sure it would work but you would have to do a bit of tweaking to get the humidity/air exchange right.


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #529149 - 01/23/02 04:04 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

An ultrasonic produces a visible mist and will put the humidity inside the tent to reach 100% in only a few minutes.
A cool mist produces an invisible mist (at least mine does) It relies on a spinning comb to break up the water into particles and produce an air flow.
I don't know how the ultrasonic works.

If you are concerned about keeping the air moving and fresh than I would advise you get a cool mist humidifier. You can keep it running 24/7 so the air is always moving...(humid air)

I got mine at CVS for $20.... 2 gallon Duracraft Whisper Mist Cool Mist Humidifier... has a low/high setting.


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #529151 - 01/23/02 04:04 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

There is something very cool if you have a shelf setup:
Humid air is lighter than dry, so in such a setup at the top of the terrarium you have conditions near 100%RH, and this is the pinning zone.
Once the casings have pinned, you move them down into the fruiting zone.


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: Anno]
    #529155 - 01/23/02 04:07 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome Anno I had never even thought of that!

Out of coincidence (intuition?) I put my newest casings in at the top shelf. The hydrometer reads 95% humidity...I just checked by moving it to the bottom shelf and guess what?... 87%

Sweet


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: bassplayer74]
    #529174 - 01/23/02 04:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

heres my setup right now, all is on a timer .... temp is around 75-78F and humidity since i deal with casings is 85-90%.

This is my current setup might go larger soon..but fits 10 2loaf alum containers - 5 in each....
Hope this helps..


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: Mattycelium]
    #529799 - 01/24/02 05:08 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

approx how much h202 do you put in your humidifier? thx.


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Re: Larger style terrariums [Re: krowkuf]
    #529836 - 01/24/02 06:30 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need much...maybe 1/8 cup per gallon of water.
I don't even put H2O2 in my humidifier, unless I put filtered water in it..otherwise I just use distilled water, plain.


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