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 Juggles
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Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! 
#528379 - 01/22/02 03:44 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had fully colonized BRF cakes of EQs for about 3 weeks now and I've gotten one lousy pin. That's it!! Only one pin!! I've already tried cold shocking and dunking the cakes. Niether of them worked. Please, can anyone tell me what might be wrong or what I can do to get these cakes to pin? This is so frusturating to have the cakes just sitting there doing nothing.
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jason890
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 Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#528421 - 01/22/02 04:39 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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hey,me and my friend did the same thing using eqs with the humidefier and the bottles etc,he was growing hundreds i couldnt get shit,same setup same print evrything,so i decided to case mine and in 2 weeks i was buzzing,so what im saying is case your cakes its totally simple cheap and works
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Juggles
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Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: jason890]
#528429 - 01/22/02 04:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was actualy thinking about doing that.. anyone else had lucks with getting cakes to pin after casing?
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 WakingUpLate
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 Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#528440 - 01/22/02 05:23 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I had some hawaiians that wouldn't pin. I cased
them with jiffy-mix+calcium and here they come!
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LeGrouper
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 Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#528446 - 01/22/02 05:35 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably all the dunking and coldshocking is prolonging pinning.
This is a hobby that requires zen-like Patience. Take damp verm and surrond the bottom of the cakes, then place some on the top too. Leave in a rubbermaid container with wet verm or perlite for humidity. For pictures see DesBen's photos in theforestfloor.org in the gallery section. Awesome cakes
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Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#529382 - 01/23/02 06:54 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try injecting about 10cc's of sterile water into a cake, crank up the heat to about 84 degrees, despite all the talk about cold shocking.. Try one first..see if it works. If the substrate is dry inside... that might be your problem. Long time ago..I did the dunk tek.. it never worked for me, but injecting the water did..
I also drilled a damn hole in one as a after the fact to inject water into more easily.. that worked too. I had 3 flushes from what I thought were dead cakes.. ya never know..
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Nighted
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Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#529498 - 01/23/02 08:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like the surface area is matted. That will happen with PF style cakes when using his 1/4 cup brown rice formula. Is that what you did?
Scratch them open with a fork. 3 weeks is kind of old so don't expect miracles.
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Juggles
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Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Nighted]
#529930 - 01/24/02 07:53 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nighted... Yes, the surface of the cakes is matted, and yes I used PF's 1/4 cup brown rice formula. So you're saying I need to lightly scartch the cakes with a fork to make the mycelium fluffier?
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Nighted
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Re: Going crazy trying to get EQs to pin! [Re: Juggles]
#530176 - 01/24/02 12:53 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, scratch them more than lightly, make sure the prongs of the fork go in 2-3 mm.
I advise staying away from PF's 1/4 cup "enhanced fruiting formula" or whatever the hell he calls it. The advantage of the original mixture using the 1/8 cup is the H20/Nutrient ratio. If you do the math you'll notice that a PF style cake using 1/4 cup brown rice with 45ml of H2O is nearly identical to Paul Stamets ratio for grain jars using 1 cup rye grain to 3/4 cup of H20. Problem with PF's formula is that it doesn't use a casing layer so there isn't sufficient H20 to support the nutrient base in the substrate as there is in the original formula.
Stick to the original formula when using the PF Tek or experiment with casing for the new formula.
How's that for a diagnosis? 
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