Home | Community | Message Board

NorthSpore.com BOOMR Bag!
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlinewilshire
free radical
Male User Gallery

Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 2,421
Loc: SE PA
Last seen: 14 years, 3 days
canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure?
    #5263530 - 02/04/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what are the charges, etc?


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMicrocosmatrix
Spiral staircasetechnician
Male

Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11,293
Loc: Ythan's house
Last seen: 17 years, 1 month
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: wilshire]
    #5273029 - 02/07/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

They're not going public until after they have busted everyone


--------------------
:orly:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleVvellum
Stranger

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 10,920
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: wilshire]
    #5273035 - 02/07/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what happened?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 8,978
Loc: South Texas
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: wilshire]
    #5273047 - 02/07/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i heard it was just the seeds. could that be true?


--------------------
America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemikeownow
Humungus fungus

Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 2,856
Loc: WA,USA
Last seen: 17 years, 3 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5273065 - 02/07/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am so fing glad I never bought a single seed. THANK YOU bAG SEED'S. Now lets all have a moment to comemorate shity buds............................................................. Ok =D all my plants died at 8 inches. Damn me and my late plantings =P. Died from cold.


--------------------
No statements made in any post or message by myself should be construed to mean that I am now, or have ever been, participating in or considering participation in any activities in violation of any local, state, or federal laws. All posts are works of fiction.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 8,978
Loc: South Texas
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5273075 - 02/07/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

its so fucking stupid. all the problems in this world and we are spending time and resources on this shit. (i bet the DEA/FBI assisted Canada)


--------------------
America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMicrocosmatrix
Spiral staircasetechnician
Male

Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11,293
Loc: Ythan's house
Last seen: 17 years, 1 month
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: Vvellum]
    #5273077 - 02/07/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bi0 said:
what happened?




http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

New Information Regarding Police Seizures of Overgrow.com
by Marc Emery (03 Feb, 2006)

Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Apprehended

Cannabis Culture has developed a timeline of events we believe accurately account for the disappearance of Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), and Eurohemp. Disclaimer: this is an ongoing investigation, and facts may not be correct until confirmed!

On Monday evening, resident of Montreal Richard Calrisian, the owner of the four websites, was contacted by his web service providers in Vancouver where his servers were situated. They told him that there may be a problem, regarding a police investigation. RC told his provider to shut down the websites immediately.

Within hours, the RCMP (or other police) apparently entered the server site in Montreal (not Vancouver, as previously reported) with a warrant and apprehended the hardware that housed the four web sites.

In the early morning of Tuesday, police in Montreal moved in and arrested RC, his wife, family members and an unknown number of employees.

It is alleged that RC, a pseudonym, is being held at Riviere-des-Prairie (RDP) jail in Montreal, and his wife in is Tanguay jail, across the river from RDP. Cannabis Culture called the prison and found no one there under the name Richard Calrisian.

The bail hearing should be on Monday, but it is unusual that a bail hearing has not yet been held. Typically they take place within 24 hours of arrest, unless an investigation is ongoing and the accused are being held temporarily without bail. This may be because there is a risk that the arrest news might inform other persons who are also under investigation.

Earlier reports of a drug bust in Hearst, Ontario are not related the seizure of Overgrow.com websites.


More information to come, when provided


--------------------
:orly:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMicrocosmatrix
Spiral staircasetechnician
Male

Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11,293
Loc: Ythan's house
Last seen: 17 years, 1 month
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5273081 - 02/07/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
its so fucking stupid. all the problems in this world and we are spending time and resources on this shit. (i bet the DEA/FBI assisted Canada)




You mean leaned on Canada, like as with Marc Emery. It all fits. Beware.


--------------------
:orly:



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 8,978
Loc: South Texas
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5273111 - 02/07/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

IMO they cant/wont do shit about anyone ordering seeds from them in America. (separate country) and hopefully soon someone will replace overgrow.


--------------------
America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMisterMyco
Myco-fanatic
Male

Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 636
Last seen: 17 years, 10 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: wilshire]
    #5273201 - 02/07/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I really hope that this makes all of the lefties here in the US take a shit in their pants. All these years of "Oh, Canada is the best!" finally comes to an end. Can people be arrested for thought-crimes in America? Nope. Can they be arrested and held for days without bond or charges being pressed? Nope. Only in the Great North does that happen. I wish that all of you tree-hugging lefties would have been in Canada for this so that you could experience the true "Freedoms" of socialism first hand.


--------------------
"I have never, in all my life, not for one moment, been tempted toward religion of any kind. The fact is that I feel no spiritual void. I have my philosophy of life, which does not include any aspect of the supernatural."
Isaac Asimov


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRonoS
DSYSB since '01
Male User Gallery

Registered: 01/25/01
Posts: 16,259
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
Last seen: 10 months, 24 days
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5273636 - 02/07/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MisterMyco said:
I really hope that this makes all of the lefties here in the US take a shit in their pants. All these years of "Oh, Canada is the best!" finally comes to an end. Can people be arrested for thought-crimes in America? Nope. Can they be arrested and held for days without bond or charges being pressed? Nope. Only in the Great North does that happen. I wish that all of you tree-hugging lefties would have been in Canada for this so that you could experience the true "Freedoms" of socialism first hand.




What a load of B.S...not sure where to even start.

thanks to your Patriot act...people can be arrested and held indefinitely without being charged, or even a right to an attorney...in addition to the unconstitutional monitoring of your phones, emails etc that can be used against you.

You are kidding yourself if you think that the American DEA didn't have their hand in this...same as Marc Emery.


--------------------
"Life has never been weird enough for my liking"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblekrishnamurti
Stranger
Registered: 06/27/05
Posts: 382
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: Rono]
    #5275832 - 02/07/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

and hopefully soon someone will replace overgrow.




www.icmag.com is where alot of OGers are flocking to


--------------------
I'll see you down in Guantanamo Bay

Donate spores to FSRC or suffer the consequences!*

Wikipedia

Overgrow has been shut down :sad: check out www.icmag.com if you need MJ info

*consequences may or may not be suffered


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMisterMyco
Myco-fanatic
Male

Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 636
Last seen: 17 years, 10 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: Rono]
    #5276129 - 02/08/06 01:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Rono said:
thanks to your Patriot act...people can be arrested and held indefinitely without being charged, or even a right to an attorney...in addition to the unconstitutional monitoring of your phones, emails etc that can be used against you.




Yea yea, right right, post a link where this has happened, please, or stop telling us the sky is falling. How many websites have been shut down in Canada? What protection does the government give your fellow subjects that their right to free speech won't be taken away or impinged upon?
Quote:


You are kidding yourself if you think that the American DEA didn't have their hand in this...same as Marc Emery.



I'm sure that they may have. However, the American DEA realizes that your country offers less protections on individual rights than America, so they can do these things there. Don't feel bad, you are in the same boat that Columbia, Venezula and other third-world drug-producing, leftist nations are in.


--------------------
"I have never, in all my life, not for one moment, been tempted toward religion of any kind. The fact is that I feel no spiritual void. I have my philosophy of life, which does not include any aspect of the supernatural."
Isaac Asimov


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5276196 - 02/08/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

> Yea yea, right right, post a link where this has happened

You gotta be kidding?! Take off the rose colored glasses and look around for a change...

Lets start with the ACLU... http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/17383leg20030328.html:

Quote:

The government is no longer be required to disclose the identity of anyone, even an American citizen, detained in connection with a terror investigation - until criminal charges are filed, no matter how long that takes (sec 201).




But I suspect that you want real examples of real American citizens that are being held by the US government without charges. Have you heard the names Yaser Hamdi and Jose Padilla? Probably not, or you wouldn't be asking for examples...

In case you can't figure out how to use google, I will save you the trouble:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaser_Hamdi

Quote:

In June 2004, the United States Supreme Court rejected the U.S. government's attempts to detain Hamdi indefinitely without trial, reasserting principles of individual liberty threatened by policies enacted in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

On September 23, 2004, the United States Justice Department agreed to release Hamdi to Saudi Arabia on the condition that he gives up his U.S. citizenship. The deal also bars Hamdi from visiting Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Pakistan, Syria, the West Bank and Gaza. Hamdi must notify Saudi officials if he ever plans to leave the kingdom.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Padilla
Quote:

Jos? Padilla (also known as Abdullah al-Muhajir) (born October 18, 1970) of Puerto Rican descent, is accused of being a terrorist by the United States government. He was arrested in May 2002 and detained without charge for more than three years in a South Carolina military prison under orders of President George W. Bush.

The U.S. administration describes him as an illegal enemy combatant, arguing that he is not entitled to protection under the Geneva Convention because, under article 4.1.2 of the Third Geneva Convention, lawful combatants of militias and volunteer corps must have a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry arms openly, and conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.




> I really hope that this makes all of the lefties here in the US take a shit in their pants.

It should make everybody shit in their pants, regardless of left, right, center, up, or down. It is horrible to see so many lives impacted because somebody wants to control what I can or cannot do to my own body.

> Can people be arrested for thought-crimes in America?

Can I walk through a US airport talking about my thoughts on how to bomb a plane without getting arrested? Nope. Can I talk about my thoughts on how I want to assassinate the US Prez? (theoretical example, I have no such thoughts) Nope.

> Can they be arrested and held for days without bond or charges being pressed?

Yes. Even before the patriot act, most states allowed a person to be held for up to 48 hours (two days) without any charge being pressed.

> Only in the Great North does that happen.

Actually, all over the world, this happens. Sad but true, the US does not have the monopoloy on this abuse.

> I wish that all of you tree-hugging lefties would have been in Canada for this so that you could experience the true "Freedoms" of socialism first hand.

Your true colors shine. It is sad that one can have such a lack of compassion for others. I truely hope that you never have to experience this sort of hatred from others. Everybody deserves the chance to live in peace. I cannot imagine the demons you must harbor to have such feelings.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMisterMyco
Myco-fanatic
Male

Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 636
Last seen: 17 years, 10 months
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: Seuss]
    #5276288 - 02/08/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
In case you can't figure out how to use google, I will save you the trouble:




MASSIVE SNIP.... golly, terrorists who were planning to attack the USA. Who cares?
Quote:


It should make everybody shit in their pants, regardless of left, right, center, up, or down. It is horrible to see so many lives impacted because somebody wants to control what I can or cannot do to my own body.




You'll admit that Canada has less freedoms than the US now, correct?
Quote:


Can I walk through a US airport talking about my thoughts on how to bomb a plane without getting arrested? Nope. Can I talk about my thoughts on how I want to assassinate the US Prez? (theoretical example, I have no such thoughts) Nope.




Yes, you can do both. You won't be arrested for discussing those things, although you might be detained. Links to people who have been ARRESTED for doing it? THEORETICAL thoughts, this is, not some whacko with a bomb in his shoe going for a lighter...
Quote:


Yes. Even before the patriot act, most states allowed a person to be held for up to 48 hours (two days) without any charge being pressed.




And how long have the OG owners been arrested?
Quote:


Your true colors shine. It is sad that one can have such a lack of compassion for others. I truely hope that you never have to experience this sort of hatred from others. Everybody deserves the chance to live in peace. I cannot imagine the demons you must harbor to have such feelings.



I just think it's amusing how people here constantly praise Canada for their progressive views and programs, then this happens. Hey, hash was almost legal in Afghanistan, that doesn't mean I think it was a worthwhile country.


--------------------
"I have never, in all my life, not for one moment, been tempted toward religion of any kind. The fact is that I feel no spiritual void. I have my philosophy of life, which does not include any aspect of the supernatural."
Isaac Asimov


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
Re: canadians: what's the deal with the overgrow.com seizure? [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5276311 - 02/08/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

> You'll admit that Canada has less freedoms than the US now, correct?

Having never lived in Canada, I cannot say. I have never made a claim one way or another about Canada being less free, more free, better, or worse than the US. Again, having not lived there, it would be asinine of me to make such statements.

> You won't be arrested for discussing those things, although you might be detained.

Detained... arrested... I still miss my flight because big brother was upset about what was going through my head.

http://www.airportbusiness.com/article/article.jsp?id=4835&siteSection=5:
Quote:

A Frontier Airlines passenger was taken into custody Wednesday on the tarmac at Mineta San Jose International Airport after reportedly making statements about bombs on a flight from Denver, police said.

The man was taken from Frontier Flight 169 at about 10 a.m. after it taxied to a halt short of the gate. He was questioned by the FBI and San Jose police, who were in charge of the investigation, authorities said.

A passenger told flight attendants the man was acting suspiciously, talking about bombs and writing in a notebook, said FBI spokeswoman LaRae Quy.




> And how long have the OG owners been arrested?

Please don't change the subject. With respect to a claim that that in the US, citizens of the US can be arrested and held without charges for days, you said, "Yea yea, right right, post a link where this has happened, please". I posted several links and included two examples. There is no denying that the US has held US citizens in jail, for three years now, without access to legal council and without charges being filed. I'm not making any claims about Canada, because I simply do not know. However, I do know that before the new Bill of Revoked Rights (Patriot Act) you would have been correct. It would have been unheard of for a US citizen to be arrested and held in the US without legal council and without charges, except during a time of war. Geroge W changed all that when he signed away the constitution. ...and before somebody goes there, I don't buy the "war on terrorism" as a real war any more than I buy the "war on drugs" or the "war on poverty" as real wars... police actions, yes, but not wars.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Washington "furious" over Canadian Prime Minister's comments carbonhoots 1,324 15 12/10/05 06:33 PM
by Noetical
* Canadians
( 1 2 all )
barfightlard 2,664 28 12/19/05 10:43 AM
by Ancalagon
* Are Canadian Hospitals really like this? Great_Satan 1,672 18 12/01/04 09:47 PM
by Phluck
* CALL TO MOBILIZE AGAINST THE WTO JULY 27-30, 2003 /MONTREAL YouInfoIt 1,099 15 08/03/03 10:10 PM
by GernBlanston
* Anti-American Canadian removed from office Great_Satan 3,707 17 11/22/04 10:59 PM
by carbonhoots
* dealing with law enforcement ChromeCrow 1,414 4 08/26/02 02:29 AM
by Lana
* Canadian authorities arrest US president George W. Bush usefulidiot 1,024 10 12/07/04 08:59 PM
by Learyfan
* Canadian citizen deported without cause Ped 731 8 03/01/03 11:27 PM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
993 topic views. 1 members, 11 guests and 3 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.