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Is my IP address safe???
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good day to all,

I was wondering if there is any way possible a LEA can trace my IP address through posts I make on shroomery.org?

I wanted to start a bulk grow log, and you know, I want to be safe.....

Will something like this help?

http://stealthsurfer.biz/

its suppose to encrypt your IP address

btw shroomtalk got hacked, cant it happen to shroomery? (I sure hope not!)

I am sure the person that runs this site has everybody's IP address I am just hoping they are not in the US and where ever they are the US has no jurisdiction over...

Can I get some feedback?
I posted this in "safety and security" forum but nobody seemed interested....

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: tonyperez420]
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As far as I know, IP adresses for forums go to a 3rd party, and shroomery.com never has access to them. Also, to my knowledge if there ever was a bust (or something like that that may be concerning you) the authorities would have to contact the right people first and tell them they have a certain amount of time to turn over information...in that time we would probably all be notified to get the hell out of dodge (but it probably wouldnt ever happen anyway). I am a member of www.hempcultivation.com, and it says on that site that there was one occasion in which the secret service contacted the site administrator and told him he must turn over the information of one person...because this guy was known for having a pot farm or something like that. So don't worry...you're safe  :thumbup:


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In every life we have some trouble,
when you worry you make it double
don't worry, be happy.

Edited by Barnelby (01/20/06 11:03 AM)

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: tonyperez420]
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really this os more suited for security and safety, I'll let it reside here for a
short time because many dont venture that far....

in order for the fuzz to trace your IP back to you, they need to havet their hands
on the shroomery servers, that requires warrants, given the shroomerys policies
and rules they'll be hard pressed to obtain a warrant because we dont allow
certain things like trading of illegal items (pot seeds, drugs, etc), we abide
by the laws in the US, until we get stupid and allow all sorts of illegal
activity we're safe, if we're safe then you are too.

stealth surfer... what kinda bad joke is that? I and many other here have either
used the proxy extentions in firefox or used a program called steganos internet
anonym pro, in the security forum, ythan has posted the proxy info for firefox
both are as secure as you're going to find, and both are cheaper than a USB
proxy crap, IMO, they're safer as well.

ythans proxy info
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3966596#Post3966596
steganos
http://www.steganos.com/

the shroomery has come under attack a couple times, once was an exploit that
some script kiddie discovered, it was quicky taken care of, the others were
DDoS attacks, at the time our hardware wasnt up to par to prevent it, thats
recently changed and though people have still tried, they've been unsuccessful

regarding logs, admins haev access to your IP address through the logs, of
course unless there's a problem like people spamming, causing trouble or
something those logs are pretty much ignored, due to the volume of traffic
this site recieves the logs are dumped regularly, almost every hour. the
Shroomery is by far one of the safest sites on the net.


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Barnelby]
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Barnelby said:
As far as I know, IP adresses for forums go to a 3rd party, and shroomery.com never has access to them.


thats incorrect, the shroomery admins are the ones that have access, we own the
servers and as such nothing is 'farmed out'. 5 of our admins are tech geeks
and handle every aspect of maintaining the servers.


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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thanx prisoner for thoroughly answering my question...

i tried putting this post in security and safety but theres little traffic there...

thanks for letting it rock here for a while.... Im sure it will make lots of peeps more complacent
shit, it took a load of my shoulders

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1

Thanks for letting this run here for a few....and thanks for your input.

I have be curious about that....my mind is at ease that the Shroomery is a safe place and that your looking out for users.


good info :thumbup:


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Snaggletooth]
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Well, shows what I know. I had the same concern with hempcultivation.com and they had an faq that said that the IPs were with a 3rd party so I assumed it'd be the same here...sorry about that.  :blush:


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In every life we have some trouble,
when you worry you make it double
don't worry, be happy.

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Barnelby]
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Heres a suggestion for shroomery.org

Maybe the security and safety forum be moved up higher... its just human nature to be lazy and members of this forum prob do not scroll all the way down to find it... shit I admit it took me a while to venture down there....

I hate seeing the pigs catch a W and arrest someone, I wouldnt wish it on my worse enemy (unless that person deliberately went to hurt someone) I would not want anything happen to anybody in this community (especially something that should be legal!)

anyways, thats my .02, its prob the second most important forum to general cultivation...

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Snaggletooth]
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Snaggletooth said:
I have be curious about that....my mind is at ease that the Shroomery is a safe place and that your looking out for users.



many of us really bend over backwards to protect you guys, I've deleted post in
which people have carelessly taken photos of their grow with pieces of mail in it
and to date, I dont believe we've had anyone here thats been busted because of
what they've posted, this doesnt mean we can become careless in what we do, it
simply means we all need to keep looking out for each other. we've all done
good so far.


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Barnelby]
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Barnelby said:
Well, shows what I know. I had the same concern with hempcultivation.com and they had an faq that said that the IPs were with a 3rd party so I assumed it'd be the same here...sorry about that.  :blush:



different forums are run much differently, the one you mentioned seems much less
secure in that regard but the servers may be run by a 3rd party like Ezboard,
there are hundreds of BBs there being hosted by Ezboard, unfortunately systems
like that are more willing to surrender you're info to police if they or anyone
else finds content that opposes their views, or they may simply close your board.

operations like the shroomery and overgrow are much more aware of legality,
they understand the paranoia and security issues that people have and try to
accomodate them, it's one of the reasons this board has gone the way it has


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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basically my understanding of law is the police has to have probable cause first. so in short they have to find your grow up first then they get you computer and then they look up your posts. but they can't go backwards. also its similar to napster having to give up peoples IPs for illigal mp3's that took forever to go thought to courts right. also it diesn't really matter about jurisdiction. the US is everyone i shit you not. some guy up here in canada marc emery sells weed seeds. had been for a decade. he fills out his tax return each yr and actually puts that he sells seeds and my government is happy to take 300 000 in taxes off the millions he makes. the only time hes been arrested is after hes apreared in an american mag or tv interview. last yr he finally was arrested for your DEA and is being brought up on charges huge charges. jurisdiction means little beucase the DEA are bullies. too bad they really effed up and let out a memo saying how this guy was arrested for political reasons. now under candian law we can't send him off. but this guys also looking for trouble he flonds what he does even though its illigal in canada just no arrestable. hes whole life is about legalization and he wants a standoff. lesson is unless you are willing to be the martyr/ take it in the ass, just don't flaunt what you do and you should be safe.


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im sorry about your mother. She was a terrible attrative woman.

Get back to nature; hunting burgers and gathering fries.

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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Hey this information hads definately made me feel much safer, i'v been having night mares about the FEDS somehow obtaining info from shroomery and raiding mi casa.  :shocked:
I have one concern though Prisoner.

Prisoner#1 said:
in order for the fuzz to trace your IP back to you, they need to havet their hands
on the shroomery servers, that requires warrants, given the shroomerys policies
and rules they'll be hard pressed to obtain a warrant because we dont allow
certain things like trading of illegal items (pot seeds, drugs, etc), we abide
by the laws in the US, until we get stupid and allow all sorts of illegal
activity we're safe, if we're safe then you are too.



I've never been one to trust the goverment. Recently the goverment was confronted about illegaly tapping phones and what not without official warrants in order to keep the United States from the so called "terrorist." Whats to stop them from doing the same with the IP's?


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: skeletor]
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skeletor said:
basically my understanding of law is the police has to have probable cause first.


in 2000, that may have been the case, now under the patriot act it's a great
deal different, the US has deemed that cultivation/posession is supporting
terrorism, with that anything they do regarding drugs is legal, in fact they can
now hold you indefinately as a terrorist and never give you a trial.

Quote:
also it diesn't really matter about jurisdiction. some guy up here in canada marc emery sells weed seeds. last yr he finally was arrested for your DEA and is being brought up on charges huge charges. jurisdiction means little beucase the DEA are bullies.


I'm still trying to find info on emorys extraditions, seems theres a great deal
of confusion since everything I can find is from june to august and you're right
the US government cares nothing about jurisdiction because more than half the
drugs in this country are from outside it's borders, what I find shocking in
the situation is that with most of canada claiming marijuana is legal (it's not
in fact the penalties are very similar to those in the US) that the BCMP
arrested him for our government so the majority of the blame actualy falls on
canada, they had the option to say "fuck you georgie, eh"


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too bad they really effed up and let out a memo saying how this guy was arrested for political reasons. now under candian law we can't send him off.


can you provide a link to the memo? I'd love to read it and as for releasing him
to the US, if he wins the extradition battle, he's again a free man, if he
looses, he's shipped to the US for trial, but... if he wins theres nothing
that says a team of navy seals wont be bringing him back anyway, we did it
with manuel noriega and he was a bit higher on the food chain.


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1
Man you are very cool +5 to you!


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Akira]
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GodsEntelechy said:
I've never been one to trust the goverment. Recently the goverment was confronted about illegaly tapping phones and what not without official warrants in order to keep the United States from the so called "terrorist." Whats to stop them from doing the same with the IP's?



3 key words you need to know; Tempest, Eschelon and Green Lantern, if combined or
in conjunction with other key words like privacy you'll discover that no form
of communication is safe, Tempest was mentioned during the Clinton Impeachment
hearings, it was the first official confirmation of is existance, what tempest
does is allow the government to eavesdrop on any electronic device in your home
they can 'see' what you're doing on your computer or watching on TV.

they also have means of using other 'legal' surveilance techniques incliding
lasers that 'read' vivrations off glass, doors or any other solid object and
those vibrations can be decyphered to obtain the conversation, cell phones
can be monitored as can cordless phones and theer are hundreds of other ways
it's good to be paranoid but not foolish, though I'm sure the DEA and local
agencies do read and monitor this site, I dont believe anyone will be at risk
until they post pics of enormous grows or brag about dealing pounds, it's
one of the reasons we all frown upon taking it past the hobby stage.


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Snaggletooth]
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Snaggletooth said:
Prisoner#1
Man you are very cool +5 to you!


sounds like a nice way to say "prz, what kinda conspiracy nut are you"  :smirk:


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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naw....there's deference from being Paranoid and educated about the subject... :tongue2:


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Snaggletooth]
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the 2 are very closely tied, if you ever want to learn a bit about what the
government really doesnt what you to know, hit me up and I'll send you in the
right direction, you may be suprised in the number of subversives and the
positions they hold in this country,


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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lots of interesting info in this thread, some of it should be in the FAQ


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Re: Is my IP address safe??? [Re: Cloud9]
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we may be able to talk them into a comprehensive security faq, who's gonna write it tho :smirk:


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