Home | Community | Message Board

High Mountain Compost
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineEllis Dee
Male User Gallery Arcade Champion: Duck Hunt, Enemy Enforcer

Registered: 06/30/01
Posts: 13,104
Loc: Fire in the sky
Last seen: 2 months, 23 days
U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax!
    #516190 - 01/10/02 09:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

From: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,42529,00.html

Critics Slam Proposed U.N. Tax Authority

Wednesday, January 09, 2002
By Refet Kaplan

Respond to Editor

Email this Article

NEW YORK ? The United Nations is gearing up for what could be yet another explosively controversial international conference, this time over charges the organization wants to create a powerful worldwide tax bureaucracy.

Supporters see the International Conference on Financing for Development, set for Monterrey, Mexico, from March 18-22, as a chance for world governments to address a wide range of financial issues related to global development.

But critics of the U.N. see a far more disturbing agenda in the works.

"This is scary. They're talking about establishing an extra layer of government at the world level," said Veronique de Rugy, an analyst at the Washington-based Cato Institute. "Their goal is an international tax cartel ? that would work to keep taxes high."

The controversy centers in part around a proposal to create something called the International Tax Organization. The organization would help nations collect and disseminate information on tax policies and, opponents insist, assess its own taxes, help governments tax emigrant citizens working in other countries and even compel member states to share tax data.

U.N. officials and their supporters said that's overstating the case.

"This has nothing to do with taxing anybody. That is specifically what this proposal is not about," said Tim Hall, a U.N. spokesman. Hall said the most recent draft text for Monterrey calls for "strengthened international tax cooperation through enhanced dialogue," and does not call for the establishment of an international tax organization.

But there's no language guaranteeing just exactly what's going to be inserted into the Monterrey document during a preparatory conference in New York next week. Much of the meeting's agenda has yet to be revised and approved.

The debate threatens to disrupt if not entirely derail the Monterrey discussions, something U.N. officials are anxious to prevent. The organization is still recovering from the embarrassing collapse of its anti-racism conference in South Africa last fall, the latest in a series of controversial international gatherings that have taken place in recent years.

Some predict a messy affair if the tax organization issues aren't fully addressed in the coming weeks.

"What you're going to see in Monterrey will make Durban [anti-racism conference] seem like a party," said one U.N. observer who asked not to be named. "This has the potential to be much more embarrassing when people find out the full scope of what they're really planning."

Critics are particularly worried the United States, which could normally be counted on to quickly and loudly reject any thoughts of a world taxing authority, might be more open to sign on to a deal in the post-Sept. 11 political climate.

"Because of what happened on Sept. 11, the U.S. may be more willing to buy into some sort of information exchange," added de Rugy. "Usually the U.S. is in favor of financial privacy ? but now it is seen as something that protects terrorists."

Critics should also resist the temptation "to dismiss this kind of report as just another U.N. fantasy," others said.

"This is a problem because it meshes completely with what the EU and OECD [Organization for European Cooperation and Development] has been trying to do for some time," said Dan Mitchell, of the Heritage Foundation think tank in Washington.

High-tax countries like France have long lamented their loss of human and financial resources to lower-taxed nations like the United States. An international tax agency would thus work to reduce such "tax competition" between nations.

"There is a concern that through better cooperation, you would avoid a race to the bottom" of tax competition, said Hall. "It could be a much more fair way of doing taxes, and actually help avoid double taxation for some."

That doesn't sound right to low-tax advocates. They fear decreased "tax competition" would only force foreign nationals working in the United States to pay higher taxes to their native governments or, even more disturbing, compel the United States to raise its own tax rates.

"What the U.N. is trying to do is act on behalf of high-tax nations who refuse to face the facts of the global economy," de Rugy argued. "They want to force low-tax countries to increase their taxes."

There is also the question of how much money the United States would gain or lose as a result of greater international tax cooperation.

Some argue an international tax organization ? in whatever form it takes ? could help the U.S. Treasury collect hundreds of millions in dollars from American tax cheats who have taken refuge overseas. Others believe America would lose billions if anxious overseas investors pull their money out of U.S. businesses in attempt to avoid any international tax regulations.

U.N. advocates like Hall say all this uncertainty proves meetings like Monterrey are necessary.

"There's no question there are lots of ideas floating around with these countries," he said. "But you have to remember it's the individual governments that run the show. No one can make them do something they don't want to do."

Skeptics, meanwhile, just hope the United States and other like-minded nations aren't going to be dealt cards from a stacked deck.

"A lot of the work at these things is done well in advance, and I'm not sure there will be any adult supervision here," said Mitchell. "It's up to the U.S. government to protect it's own interests, and not let a bad idea snowball into something much, much bigger."

"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 01/31/00
Posts: 366
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #518681 - 01/12/02 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
lumber tyrant
Registered: 10/03/01
Posts: 320
Loc: se usa
Last seen: 13 years, 7 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: Lenore]
    #518688 - 01/12/02 07:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you're nuts. this could be disasterous.


If i get into some trouble TURBO BOOST will set me free.
Michael Knight you watch the bass with the K I T T.

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/16/99
Posts: 570
Loc: England
Last seen: 28 days, 3 hours
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: krispyfi]
    #518701 - 01/12/02 07:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you read the article carefully you will see it says absolutely nothing, it's just pure speculation.

MAPS.org: supporting psychedelic and medical marijuana research since 1986

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 4
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: mm.]
    #543197 - 02/07/02 02:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

sounds like a damn good idea to me... could be the start of a real push towards something like a tobin tax

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 03/15/01
Posts: 18
Loc: northern N.C.
Last seen: 15 years, 7 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #543807 - 02/07/02 04:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Just one more good reason for the US to get out of the UN

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 4
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: cyclone]
    #546225 - 02/10/02 01:21 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dumbass... so the us could be MORE imperialistic? no thank you

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 06/03/00
Posts: 214
Last seen: 13 years, 4 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #547231 - 02/11/02 01:23 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

All these people in denial. Its going to happen and there probally going to make it so you will have no choice to join , that is if you want to live. And if you survive


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Registered: 03/15/01
Posts: 18
Loc: northern N.C.
Last seen: 15 years, 7 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: AMarxistGardener]
    #549020 - 02/12/02 04:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Gardener: I am more of an Isolationist than an Imperialist. The UN has always been just a cover for draining the US of money and ruining the good work we have tried to do around the world. Thank God there was Jessy Helms who was smart enough to try to put an end to it.

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 2,387
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
Re: U.N. Proposes World Wide Tax! [Re: cyclone]
    #550001 - 02/13/02 01:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Good work around the world LOL your fucking stupid.

Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Obama's Global Tax Bill Coming Soon lonestar2004 481 4 06/26/08 07:15 PM
by Luddite
* Obama’s Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote lonestar2004 905 12 02/14/08 03:35 PM
by lonestar2004
* Taxes, Progressive VS. Regressive Ellis Dee 856 1 08/10/01 08:06 AM
by Ellis Dee
* Obama wants to Outlaw Offshore Tax-Avoidance Techniques
( 1 2 3 all )
Falcon91Wolvrn03 1,907 47 05/16/09 08:02 PM
by zappaisgod
* W.House: Tax Cuts to Create 800,000 Jobs
( 1 2 3 all )
Ellis Dee 4,050 40 03/03/02 11:53 PM
by sparafucile
* Henry George and the Land Value Tax
( 1 2 3 all )
Silversoul 3,985 56 09/20/05 01:19 AM
by Silversoul
* McCain calls for summer-long suspension of gas tax
( 1 2 all )
lonestar2004 2,655 27 04/16/08 09:38 PM
by johnm214
* Obama: Huge Capital Gains Tax Increase Needed
( 1 2 3 all )
lonestar2004 3,154 53 04/23/08 05:08 AM
by johnm214

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil
922 topic views. 3 members, 0 guests and 9 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.037 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 19 queries.