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InvisibleUlysees
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Edgar Allan Poe
    #512587 - 01/06/02 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just thought that some of you might benefit from this link. I posted it in the James Douglas Morrison thread, but if you're not looking in there, you won't be seeing it... hence the new thread.

http://www.eapoe.org/works/index.htm

Check it out, there's hordes of stuff there. If you want a reccomendation, I'll give you one. Go to "Tales" and read Berenice. You won't be dissapointed.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #512887 - 01/07/02 05:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hell ya, Poe is the shit.


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: BrokedownPalace]
    #513427 - 01/07/02 06:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, Poe is phenomenal. Poe was phenomenal. His works are still phenomenal.

I'm surprised that more people haven't taken advantage of this link I so graciously provided... this is the motherload people.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #513594 - 01/07/02 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

TO--
1
Should my early life seem,
(As well it might), a dream-
Yet I build no faith upon
The king Napoleon-
I look not up afar
For my destiny in a star:
2
In parting from you now
Thus much I will avow-
There are beings, and have been
Whom my spirit had not seen
Had I let them pass me by
With a dreaming eye-
If my peace hath fled away
In a night-or in a day-
In a vision-or in none-
Is it therefore the less gone?-
3
I am standing 'mid the roar
Of a weather-beaten shore
And I hold with my hand
Some particles of sand-
How few! and how they creep
Thro' my fingers to the deep!
My early hopes? no-they
Went gloriously away
Like lightning from the sky
At once-and so will I.
4
So young? ah! no-not now-
Thou hast not seen my brow,
But they tell thee I am proud-
They lie-they lie aloud-
My bosom beats with shame
At the paltriness of name
With which they dare combine
A feeling such as mine-
Nor Stoic? I am not:
In the terror of my lot
I laugh to think how poor
That pleasure "to endure!"
What! shade of Zeno!-I!
Endure!-no-no-defy.
[1829]

DEEP IN EARTH
Deep in earth my love is lying
And I must weep alone.
[1847]


from "The Unknown Poe"

what a kooky guy!


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Amoeba665]
    #513603 - 01/07/02 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

all right, i just have to add one more.. this stuff is great..

"An infinity of error makes its way into our Philosophy, through Man's habit of considering himself a citizen of a world solely-of an individual planet-instead of at least occasionally contemplating his position as a cosmopolite proper-as a denizen of the universe."


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #513634 - 01/07/02 09:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read some of Poe's works... Very subtle and disturbing considering Poe was a chronic depressive and had alcohol problems? Nonetheless, he's one bad mofo!

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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #513638 - 01/07/02 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thank you, thank you, thank you!

i have been trying to find a copy of 'eureka!' for YEARS.

i can finally die happy.


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: madmonkey]
    #513678 - 01/07/02 10:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ahh... this is the impact I was expecting. hehe

And about Poe's problems: He was a bit of an alchoholic, but it was a complicated situation. He had quite severe health problems... I can't remember how it all went, but it was something like this... He took Medication for his heart (without it he would die sooner or later I believe) but the meds gave him severe headaches. He took opium to ease the unbearable pain but alas, it had a negative effect on his heart... being addicted to a substance that is killing you yet is the only thing that makes your life bearable is quite the fuck over.
I think that's how it sort of went... on top of that he had a lot of problems and drank heavily. Most of the women in his life died from... I can't remember now. Something like the measles, but not. He had many issues to make a long and complicated story short.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #513712 - 01/07/02 10:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and he got rabies


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #514513 - 01/08/02 05:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Wasn't it Ladunium(sp?, it's an opium derivative that was seen as a holy grail for medicine) that he was prescribed for his headaches. Most of the women in his life died from TB. Also wasn't a large absecess(hole) is his brain found during the autopsy that there not sure why or when it got there. I think that my favorite story about Poe being nuts is when he showed up at his publishers having shaved off his mustache claiming that little green men were trying to kill him.

Anyone else find his death to be somewhat odd? I've even read that he was carrying a manuscript for a new book that's never been found.

As for Eureka, I ordered it from Books-a-Million in '97. Oddly neither Barne and Noble nor Amazon seems to carry the book. Excellent reading, I'm still going and looking at used book stores for older copies.


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: MokshaMan]
    #515071 - 01/09/02 04:17 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Ya Mokshaman, I think you're right about that stuff, or at least closer on the details than I was.

His death was pretty odd. I hadn't heard that he was carrying a manusript that wasn't found... I'm trying to remember what else was odd about it, what else he had, or what he was saying...

I like those stories too. There are a lot of stories.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #515467 - 01/09/02 03:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

To be Poe in the age of the Pisces you would have ended the same.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Silent_One]
    #516022 - 01/10/02 04:03 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What?


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #516026 - 01/10/02 04:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Two main stories that I've heard about his death(well I mean other than the obvious that he was an alcoholic that couldn't keep himself away from the booze): 1. Voter fraud, he was liquored up and told to vote repeatedly(was something that happened repeatedly at the time) 2. Freemasons were pissed off at Poe because he knew more about their organization than he should have(Cask of Amantiallado(sp?) and 2 other short stories are said to be about the Freemasons) and Poe was going to write a scathing book(possibly already finished by the time he was taking his trip) about the Freemasons and they wanted Poe dead. Those are the two main stories I've heard, other than the obvious.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: MokshaMan]
    #516031 - 01/10/02 04:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh the good old freemasons..predecessors of the Illuminati


Edited by Shroomism (01/10/02 04:13 AM)


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InvisibleMokshaMan
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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: ]
    #516033 - 01/10/02 04:14 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Didn't say I believed the story, just said it's one of the stories given to explain a death.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: MokshaMan]
    #516039 - 01/10/02 04:18 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Didn't his death involve something about him in a bar ranting about 'crazy stuff' right before he died?


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: ]
    #516041 - 01/10/02 04:21 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

He was found in the street ranting unintelligably(oops looked back over some stuff... it was a gutter and the ranting didn't start until he "came to"... which never really happened since he was in a complete delirium until he died) after having disappeared for three days in the city of Baltimore, the day after an election if I remember correctly.

BTW not that it matters, but my landlord is a freemason. If I thought most of the stuff about freemasonry was true, I wouldn't be able to live here.


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Edited by MokshaMan (01/10/02 04:43 AM)


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: MokshaMan]
    #516067 - 01/10/02 04:55 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh yes. Never believe another mans delusions, that's a good rule of thumb. Those stories jarred some memories for a minute, but they're gone again. That account sounds about right (at least compared to what I know.) Who was he with? I think that's what my memory related to, but I can't be sure. And I'm having a hazy vision of an object. (Not from telepathy or anything, just from a mental picture I had of the room and whatnot.)

Well, tis always going to have that mysterious element.


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Re: Edgar Allan Poe [Re: Ulysees]
    #516071 - 01/10/02 05:05 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've never heard that he was with anyone. As far as I knew he was going to his fiancee's to get married(well eventually, although it was suppose to be a short engagement). He was told that he had to be sober and essentially never drink again if he wanted to marry her, and had been successful until he got to Baltimore. This of course is the obvious explanation for his death, he was alone on a trip with no one to stop him from having a drink. Of course it's possible that he decides to just have one and then can't stop until he eventually drank himself to death. His editor(or was it his publisher) was orginally going to accompany him on the trip and then couldn't go for some reason... I don't remember... haven't written/researched anything about Poe's life for 6 or 7 years.


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