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Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum
    #24112429 - 02/23/17 12:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Title says it all.

I want to read something exciting.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24112460 - 02/23/17 12:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Read my cyberpunk novel The Verity Key.

It's set mostly in Brisbane, so it may resonate with you. In the 2070s, the story involves two crazy Australian shitfighters who do a fuckton of drugs and gradually get drawn into a vast conspiracy involving satellites that can control people's behaviour remotely.

I wrote it as an exercise to hold my mind together after taking a pile of mushrooms in 2008 and seeing the brick wall at the back of the theatre.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: viktor]
    #24112498 - 02/23/17 01:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Read my cyberpunk novel The Verity Key.




The Stand =

We have to pay for the convenience

(down that rabbit hole.)


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #24112751 - 02/23/17 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Reading is so past tense now that we have youtube.  A picture is worth a thousand words, so just imagine how many words are in all those frames of a youtube video.  Describing the action versus watching the action.  The angle matters in real life too in terms of perspective, just not as much as written.

So there.  I don't have any books to recommend because I'm lazy and watch youtube videos.  Shame on me.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24113130 - 02/23/17 10:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Along what lines?  Narrow it down a bit for me :heart:


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #24113909 - 02/23/17 04:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well that Dzogchen book was really damn good.

Sounds interesting viktor.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24113941 - 02/23/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

considering that book is part of a trilogy I would look up and read the remaining 2 books :cool::thumbup:


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #24113946 - 02/23/17 04:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Or if you havent already ...read the first book in the " Dune " series by Frank Herbet...it is epic and exciting all around a master piece on par with the best out there.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24113971 - 02/23/17 05:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce
Cities of the Red Night by William S. Burroughs
Valis by Philip K. Dick
Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson
Collected Works of Edgar Allan Poe
The Game of Life or Info-Psychology by Timothy Leary
Hamlet by William Shakespeare
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
Wholeness and the Implicate Order by David Bohm
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson


Can't go wrong with any (or all) of those.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24114381 - 02/23/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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LunarEclipse said:
Reading is so past tense now that we have youtube.  A picture is worth a thousand words, so just imagine how many words are in all those frames of a youtube video.  Describing the action versus watching the action.  The angle matters in real life too in terms of perspective, just not as much as written.

So there.  I don't have any books to recommend because I'm lazy and watch youtube videos.  Shame on me.



without the words, there's no describing the picture.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24114936 - 02/23/17 11:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I highly recommend, "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck" by Mark Manson.

It contains a trainload of wisdom and humor.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24115441 - 02/24/17 07:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
Reading is so past tense now that we have youtube.  A picture is worth a thousand words, so just imagine how many words are in all those frames of a youtube video.  Describing the action versus watching the action.  The angle matters in real life too in terms of perspective, just not as much as written.

So there.  I don't have any books to recommend because I'm lazy and watch youtube videos.  Shame on me.




without the words, there's no describing the picture.




Why do I care about some description when I can maybe see the scene as it is happening?  An example is recently when Cal Dept of Water Resources describes the dam as going through a "normal" process, when in fact both spillways have serious erosion issues easily determined by looking at a picture.

Now, any employee daring to take a real picture gets fired as recently happened.  The pictures tell the story, not some talking head describing the story.

Interesting how the MSM takes over the search results, they want their description of the story told, the rest are fake.

And so on.  I trust maybe 5% of what I read to be some kind of accurate description of an event or anything else.  Way too much manipulation and bias and agendas and just plain language barriers etc.

Anyway, as to a book, The Creature From Jekyll Island by Griffin.  Required reading for anyone wanting to know about The Fed and central banks and their control of money and how money is "created".  (spoiler alert - out of thin air.)

Edited by LunarEclipse (02/24/17 07:47 AM)

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24115445 - 02/24/17 07:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

obviously, what you're saying is rings true...but what i'm saying is, with no words, your brain can't process the information. with no words, the picture is just an opaque screen. with no words, your mind can only process things akin to how a brain might process a strong acid trip, with nothing able to be discerned aside from a blur.

you need labels, names, words...to separate one thing from another, to put it simply.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24115451 - 02/24/17 07:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
obviously, what you're saying is rings true...but what i'm saying is, with no words, your brain can't process the information. with no words, the picture is just an opaque screen. with no words, your mind can only process things akin to how a brain might process a strong acid trip, with nothing able to be discerned aside from a blur.

you need labels, names, words...to separate one thing from another, to put it simply.




All those labels and names are not making things more simple.  Here, watch the video One Mainframe To Rule Them All and you tell me.  Do we want a Smarter Planet with IBM in charge?


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #24115456 - 02/24/17 07:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I highly recommend, "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck" by Mark Manson.

It contains a trainload of wisdom and humor.




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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24115457 - 02/24/17 07:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

well, it doesn't make things more simple, but it's the complexity we can't ignore. :shrug:

with no words, the pictures are just pictures; how can you discern what's in them with no labels?

i never said any of this was good. it just is.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24115461 - 02/24/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
well, it doesn't make things more simple, but it's the complexity we can't ignore. :shrug:

with no words, the pictures are just pictures; how can you discern what's in them with no labels?

i never said any of this was good. it just is.




That's kind of a silly question.  Do you rely on some author or reporter to discern what they saw and then rely on their interpretation?  Do you trust that more than your own eyes? 

It's no wonder we have SJW and other issues in this country.  It's no wonder we have religion and cults.  It's no wonder we rely on some doctor to label us and give us some pill.  It's no wonder our kids are drugged up for being labeled hyperactive by the women teachers who can't handle boys. 

God I hate this planets people and their authoritarian view that I should trust being preached to at every turn.  Fuck your written word your book of rules and the rest of it.


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24115476 - 02/24/17 08:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That's kind of a silly question.  Do you rely on some author or reporter to discern what they saw and then rely on their interpretation?




you keep referring to media, i'm not talking about the media...Jesus.

i'm talking about the fact that your brain, to discern what you're seeing, needs labels to identify what you're seeing.

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It's no wonder we have SJW and other issues in this country.  It's no wonder we have religion and cults.  It's no wonder we rely on some doctor to label us and give us some pill.  It's no wonder our kids are drugged up for being labeled hyperactive by the women teachers who can't handle boys. 




WTF? you are just...hopeless. no one is talking about the fucking media. except you.

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God I hate this planets people and their authoritarian view that I should trust being preached to at every turn.  Fuck your written word your book of rules and the rest of it.





quit drugs. you've lost the plot.

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24115486 - 02/24/17 08:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24115487 - 02/24/17 08:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, i love that song. but you are not the person the singer is talking about. almost certainly.

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    #24117827 - 02/25/17 02:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:


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    #24118484 - 02/25/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, read Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship (and second book), by Goethe,
The Little Prince, by St. Exupery
Dragons of Eden, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, other books by Carl Sagan
Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! by Richard Feynman
The Children of Hurin, J.R.R. Tolkien.
Ender's Game, O.C. Card,  (Next 3 books in the series), Children of the Mind, etc.
Roger Zelazny's works, including the Chronicles of Amber, Creatures of Light and Darkness, Bridge of Ashes, etc.
Joseph Campbell
Freak the Mighty (i forget the author)
Flowers for Algernon,
The works of Dostoevsky & Anton Chekhov,
The short stories and poems of E.A. Poe,
The Gap Cycle, beginning with The Real Story, by Stephen R. Donaldson,
(it's the only one like it I'll recommend.... that is, it's kinda dark and violent)
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Wizard and Glass, and Hearts in Atlantis by Stephen King - the only by him I'll read, have read -- but both of which I love very much.
the first 6 or so books by Goodkind of the Sword of Truth series, etc.
other sci-fi writers,.. Pratchett, that Anderson guy..
Philip K. Dick's works..
The Principia Discordia, if you haven't read it....
(goinn't' get a little good ones in here, just to keep interest...)
All In (includes the stories of Stuey Ungar, Bobby Baldwin and Doyle Brunson, etc)..
others, idk
enjoy :smile:
the poetry of
Stevenson, Blake, Aurobindo, Shelley, Naidu,
there is one author who is almost worlds beyond most everyone else... i've mentioned him elsewhere though, so i'll let it remain a mystery,.. figure it out, if you can guess...
that makes it more interesting for the rest of us, too :smile:  [hm... although since i edited and added more, that author is actually in the list..... so guess if you can i guess. :sun: ]


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    #24119080 - 02/25/17 03:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

William Blake:  Jerusalem, Selected Poems and Prose.
William Blake: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell.
The Record of Linji - translation by  Ruth Fuller Sasaki
Shobogenzo - Treasury of the true dharma eye
I Am That - Nisargarddata maharaj
Zen and Zen Classics vol. 4 : The Mumonkan by R.H. Blyth
The complete mystical works of Meister Eckhart
The Zen Teachings of Master Lin-chi: A Translation of the Lin-chi Lu
By Yixuan
Dune - by Frank Herbert
Odyssey & Iliad - by Homer (idk what translation)


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24122219 - 02/26/17 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Loren Eiseley

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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24122319 - 02/26/17 10:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dune by Frank Herbert

All quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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    #24122458 - 02/26/17 11:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!


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Re: Interesting reading material, any subject relevant to forum [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24132601 - 03/03/17 12:21 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

The Wisdom of Insecurity

by Alan Watts

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