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 The Hundredth Monkey 
#486841 - 12/11/01 01:10 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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found this at www.worldtrans.org, thought someone out there might enjoy it...
by Ken Keyes, jr.
The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years.
In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant.
An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers too.
This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists.
Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable.
Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.
Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes -- the exact number is not known.
Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes.
Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.
THEN IT HAPPENED!
By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them.
The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!
But notice.
A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea --
Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
*Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.*
Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the conscious property of these people.
But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!
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 Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Adamist]
#486900 - 12/11/01 02:01 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is critical mass... once a certain level has been reached in a certain number of beings, it "spills over" and effects the outside environment in a major way. It can be likened to a volcano erupting.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Adamist]
#487835 - 12/11/01 07:11 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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....amazing....
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amazing - but not true.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Swami]
#487896 - 12/11/01 07:59 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, nothing is true
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Swami]
#487897 - 12/11/01 07:59 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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May you elaborate upon your proof of that 100th Monkey deal not being "factual"?
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: ]
#488010 - 12/11/01 09:52 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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>>>>No, nothing is true
Ya see Shroomism, when you make statements like this...."nothing is true"......I think it's reasonable to wonder where you are really coming from, and if you're being serious or not.
Is it true you install satellite dishes? Ok, then "nothing is true" would seem to be premature.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: cantara]
#488014 - 12/11/01 09:53 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry I was being cynical.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: ]
#488025 - 12/11/01 10:05 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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He didn't mean nothing is true; he meant to say everything is false. Jeez! Get it right, people ;)
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#488067 - 12/11/01 10:35 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awareness is picked up by *almost* everyone...
I have a feeling Swami would be one of the monkeys that stuck with dirty potatoes due to their endless doubts and suspicions...
Swami I can see a little bit of what you're saying... but when you dismiss everything you THINK is false AS false... it makes me sad, to be honest.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Adamist]
#488090 - 12/11/01 10:50 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Adamist
I don't want to speak for Swami but I don't think he is "dismissing" things as false - his stand is similar to mine, which is, Don't believe something just because somebody says it or just because you read it - if it sounds too incredible to be true, and you haven't seen any credible evidence that it IS true, it's reasonable to suspend judgment or lean on the side of it not being true. I don't know why Swami is committing a crime by taking that stance. I doubt very highly that if there were credible evidence of phenomenon X, that he would claim it didn't exist. At least, I am that way and I am fairly sure Swami is as well.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: cantara]
#488114 - 12/11/01 11:08 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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its funny how we can look at things the same way but different...
im too much of an idealist to "lean on the side of something not being true", especially when intuition tells me it is true...
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Adamist]
#488137 - 12/11/01 11:28 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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We do differ in that regard then, but not greatly. If my intuition tells me something has merit, I tend to give it some benefit of some doubt. I'm not a machine.
Specifically with this hundredth monkey phenomenon - I can't right at the moment think of any real-world applications of this principle, can you name some?
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: cantara]
#488140 - 12/11/01 11:28 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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To clariify - by "applications" I should have said "examples", as that is the meaning that I intended to convey.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: cantara]
#488172 - 12/12/01 12:04 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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telepathy
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Adamist]
#488183 - 12/12/01 12:16 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Swami I can see a little bit of what you're saying... but when you dismiss everything you THINK is false AS false... it makes me sad, to be honest.
From : The Skeptics Dicitonary - http://www.skepdic.com/monkey.html
The hundredth monkey phenomenon refers to a sudden spontaneous and mysterious leap of consciousness achieved when an allegedly "critical mass" point is reached. For example, people start thinking about ending world hunger. One person gets another to start thinking about it who gets another who gets another not ad nauseam or ad infinitum but until suddenly a breakthrough is achieved when the "critical mass" point is reached. Then, spontaneously and mysteriously, everybody starts thinking about ending world hunger.
The expression "hundredth monkey" comes from an experiment on monkeys done in the 1950's. It was alleged by Lyall Watson in his book Lifetide that one monkey taught another to wash potatoes who taught another who taught another and soon all the monkeys on the island were washing potatoes where no monkey had ever washed potatoes before. When the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes, suddenly and spontaneously and mysteriously monkeys on other islands, with no physical contact with the potato-washing cult, started washing potatoes! Was this monkey telepathy at work or just monkey business on Watson's part?
It makes for a cute story, but it isn't true. At least, the part about spontaneous transmission of a cultural trait across space without contact is not true. There really were some monkeys who washed their potatoes. One monkey started it and soon others joined in. But even after six years not all the monkeys saw the benefit of washing the grit off of their potatoes by dipping them into the sea. Lyall made up the part about the mysterious transmission. The claim that monkeys on other islands had their consciousness raised to the high level of the potato-washing cult was a lie.
The notion of raising consciousness through reaching critical mass is being promoted by a number of New Age spiritualists, including Ken Keyes, Jr. Mr Keyes has published a book on the WWW which calls for an end to the nuclear menace and the mass destruction which surely awaits us all if we do not make a global breakthrough soon. The title of his treatise is The Hundredth Monkey. In his book he writes such things as "there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!" Well, it seems to be working for spreading the word about the hundredth monkey phenomenon! In fact, there seems to be no end to those seeking spiritual transformation of themselves and the universe. Witness the M100 or Hundredth Monkeying! project. "Our prayer is to bring benefit to all of world society without prejudice or bias." Who could complain about such a goal? If you want more information on hundredth monkeying, you should read Morphogenetics and Monkeys. It has all the latest stuff on building up your inner-energy field , doors of perception, healing and the millennium. It must be very exciting to be part of a global fellowship of soul nourishers. As the Monkey Man says: "...healing the human heart is central to all other necessary changes in the twenty-first century." Amen.
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further reading
The Hundredth Monkey Revisited
Follow-Up Senior Researcher Comments on the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon in Japan by Markus P?ssel and Ron Amundson
"The Hundredth Monkey" by Ken Keyes, Jr.
Amundsom, Ron. "The Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon," Skeptical Inquirer, Summer 1985. Reprinted in The Hundredth Monkey and Other Paradigms of the Paranormal, ed. Kendrick Frazier (Buffalo, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1991).
Amundsom, Ron. "Watson and the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon," Skeptical Inquirer, Spring 1987.
Possel, Markus and Ron Amundson. "Senior Researcher Comments on the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon in Japan," Skeptical Inquirer, May/June 1996.
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Re: The Hundredth Monkey [Re: Swami]
#488417 - 12/12/01 07:56 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not quite related but, fuck L. Ron Hubbard and all his clones. Don't call me a pessimist but try and read between the lines.
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