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Marijuana Paranoia
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Hi Guys!
I don't smoke cannabis very often - maybe about once every one or two months. I absolutely love the feeling of being high, but I have a problem with paranoia. Sometimes when I'm ripped I get really paranoid, and I'll find myself thinking; "I bet my parents are going to catch me!" or "I think I just heard police sirens coming toward me!". Can anybody tell me if there is a way to fight these negative feelings?
And I have another question: are some people more sensitive to marijuana than others? When I get high, I get really high. Like sometimes I will zone out of my body, and then fly back in and have a weird realisation of existence. And sometimes I feel that reality is just a dream. Is it normal to have profound effects like this from marijuana? Or am I crazy?
Thanks!


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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It's all in yer head, don't listen to the voices!


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: RESTLESS]
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aint that a bitch
i dont like to use pot sparingly, if i get high, i stay that way for months, thats the only way to sap the paranoia, although those damn pesky same cars are always following me


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: incubaby_421]
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OH THE CARS!

PULL OF ONTO A SIDE STREET RIGHT AWAY!


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: RESTLESS]
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mmm, when you get high, pay attention to when you get paranoid. do some breathing excercises. don't bother rationalizing the paranoia, cause being high isn't a rational experience (especially for you, who seems to get quite the kick from it :-).

if you realize it's all in your head, it's not too hard at all, you just need to do it, is all. it's a bit of a process, but you'll realize eventually that the paranoia is completely gone.

that's how i stopped being scared of watching reality completely undo itself, and many other sober fears of mine...


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: RESTLESS]
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Try smoking a sativa dominant strain. Hard to get ahold of unless you grow it yourself, cuz most commercial growers grow Indica, and that is a more paranoid type buzz. Sativa is more euphoric/rushy/sociable type high.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Taskenti]
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Thanks guys, I guess I just have to try out the concept of mind over matter. My sister just came out from Vancouver to visit and brought with her some potent BC bud. So when we smoke it I'll try some breathing excersises, and telling myself that it's all in my head.
Thanks again! I'll let you know how it goes.
P.S. Thanks for the advice bruceallen, I plan on growing in the future, so when I get the seeds I'll look for Cannabis sativa.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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well fuck when driving and we park and hotbox i have to fight the urge to bolt Cu's i think a cops gonna be there or shit
at night its much more relaxed but i still get paranoid.
and i always think a car is following us Lol
heh my friends grandpa actually was following us until we sped up and did some e fun sliding turns to lose them.
i was on 80mg of adderall and a lot of weed hehe. but yea i always get paranoid about the smell but don't sweat it burn incense when you smoke or something. but yea i regularly hallucinate on weed now.
like thinking I'm outside or that its dark out and moving shit and massive CEV's. yea stavia dominant strains are very nice i get some from a friend who grows stavia and indica dominant breeds
great stuff especially with a vaporizer. heh sorry still pretty high and on adderall.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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I get that way. I've been around pot my whole life and started smoking at a very young age. Around the age of 17 I started to notice this paranoid feeling you describe. Eventually I became hypersensitive to it. Now, in my late thirties, it only takes one hit for me to feel blasted and I get super paranoid. I don't think "it's all in your head". We're talking about a chemical reaction and everyone has a different experience biochemically. Personally, I know that part of my paranoia stems from allergies. When I smoke my sinuses swell shut and I have an asthma attack; I don't get this reaction to cigarettes, I don't have this reaction to acid or mushrooms but I do get it to some incense, molds, pollens, some foods and bud...see where I'm going with this? I think that people CAN have allergies to it in the same way someone can have allergies to peanuts or ragweed or anything else your body views as foreign. Saying "it's all in your head" is really just another way of saying I don't know why you experience this so as a defensive posture I'll give the default answer of "you're experiencing this in a way that is different from my experience".

You get paranoid because your fight or flight mechanism is kicking in when you smoke. If you have allergies this might explain it. It could also be the type of bud you smoke, as previously mentioned. Also look at your surroundings and the people you're smoking with. Are you in a puplic place or at your parents house when you smoke? Are you smoking with people you don't trust or who make you feel uncomfortable? These scenarios could all be paranoia inducing for some people. Are your socialized or familial beliefs about pot and smokers negative even though you smoke? Then you could be experiencing cognitive dissonance.

I don't get this same reaction to real hash; I'm not talking keef or finger hash. I'm talking about the resin glands that build up on your scissors and gloves when you're trimming. The resinous glands and hairs of the bud stick to the scissors as you trim. I scrape this resin off and roll it into a hash ball. I can smoke this without nearly as much paranoia. Try hash, try a Sativa or ruderalis strain. Pay attention to your breathing when you smoke. Are your sinuses stuffed up? Is your breathing shallow? Do you feel tired? Then you might have asthma or allergies. Try smoking alone. Try smoking with people you trust in safe surroundings.

Don't worry about it. You're not alone. It might be "all in your head" or it might be an allergy. You're lighting something on fire and inhaling the smoke, it's not good for you any way you look at it, regardles of it's potential medical uses. Try eating it. I don't get paranoid when I eat it. Not to mention, eating it is better for you.

I also notice that if I smoke daily my short term memory becomes completely disfunctional. I'm lucky if I remember my own name half the time as it is, without being a regular user. If I smoke pot every day I might as well make up a new name every morning and to hell with remembering anything else. If all else fails then quit smoking it for fucks sake. No one needs to go around feeling paranoid. Pot isn't a smokable panacea for everyone, despite what some might have you think. Although I still believe it could be a major boost to our economy to legalize it and grow the shit for every other purpose under the sun.

Good luck.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Mobius_Strip]
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It goes away if you smoke everyday, at least it did for me.

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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: 550c]
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Their coming to get you.

Thats why your paranoid

But really, to stop being paranoid, just get high somewhere you are completely comfortable with. Def know that the cops arent coming.

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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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For me, the paranoia is part of the fun in this. At the beginning I was afraid too and weared it really out, but nowadays I just know "woa, am I f**ing high" and enjoy :grin:


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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i really doubt that this is a fight-or-flight response. you usually feel an actual threat to your safety, it's a biological reaction. a fear of cops isn't within our genetic memory, and it's not a biological instinct to react to cops, it's mostly cognitive.

pot tends to redirect where a person focuses their attention. since you stop focusing it in one place, you have an excess "amount" of focus to direct elsewhere. so if you give yourself in to a paranoid thought, your thinking so much about this paranoid thought that your parasympathetic nervous system begins to stimulate heart-rate, dilate your pupils, loosen up your bowels, etc. these sensations tend to self-perpetuate themselves in cases where they have no apparent reason for existing (ie. panic attacks). because your blood is pumping faster to your brain and your brain is focusing on something on which it can't really release "psychic energy" into (ie. an irrational fear), you begin to become even more scared. you think about it more and more, and it gets worse and worse, on both a psychological level and a physiological level.

(this is mostly theory interpretted from what i've learned of psychology [it's my major, so i do have legitimate research done], but i've applied it and received real results. don't take it for granted, do your own research. i recommend wikipedia.org.)

btw, molotov, your allergy induced panic attacks can definitely sound like something that can be overcome. when you're high and you get asthma from smoking, do you think you're choking to death or something like that? (that's the impression i'm getting, and if so, it shouldn't be too hard to overcome it)


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: entiformatie]
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The very first time I smoked I thought my lungs stopped working and I started gasping for air and I allmost passed out. What a newb reaction, now I sometimes cant even tell if Im high, lol.

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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: 550c]
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You just have to sit down a dose high enough to feel paranoia but low enough to be a mild high, and BREATHE....

feel WHERE IN THE BODY the paranoia comes from... and FEEL THE PARANOIA, embrace it, but don't let it play mind games with you.

feeling paranoid is fine, but letting the paranoia control your THOUGHTS like "oh shit I think I hear the police outside my door" is not fine.

Just directly observe the feeling with very deep, calm, breathing.... feel where it is located in your body, and breathe into it until it goes away.

I used to have real bad paranoia and after doing this just once I haven't really had *much* of a problem since.

also cut back and don't smoke so much perhaps.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: leery11]
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I get the paranoia, even when i know im not going to get caught. It just sweeps my thoughts like the plague. I try and tell myself its all in my head, but then i do something stupid. Weed makes me really dumb. Ill stick to other drugs that invoke my creativity a little more and that dont make me so damn paranoid.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: EternalMetal]
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Haha like people have been saying, it's all part of the fun. I get that way too. Just make sure you are not in public and you will be fine. Weed has a way of making it seem that EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. When in fact no one really does unless they smell it or something.....


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Heres a thought DONT GET HIGH AROUND YOUR PARENTS or DONT GET HIGH WHILE DRIVING.
Graduate highschool and stay focused then smoke and grow when you grow up. You have an entire boring life in a boring job where you need no focuse.Take it from a 23 year old who just grew up. Everything you are doing is stupid. Just a good way to get busted or get your parents to fuck with you also. I did it all and then some.

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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Snakemanj7]
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If your gonna grow a sativa dominant strain you will need a lil more light per square ft to get the same results as you would with indica. Sativas are better outdoor strains then indoor because they like alot more light.


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Re: Marijuana Paranoia [Re: Taskenti]
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A good way to beat paranoia is just smoking often and getting used to the feeling or just realizing there is nothing to really be afraid of. if you get caught whats the worst that could happen? Unless maybe you got like a pound on you or something more serious than that. but if your just smoking a little joint its not that bad.

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