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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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in that instance i would whole heartily agree...Survival is key...




but looting for material shit,is stupid as holy fuck..


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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: Twister]
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Twister351 said:
Insurance companies are probably required to pay off claims, especially when a person's livelihood relies upon it, within a reasonable amount of time. I'm not an expert or anything but I doubt a company that relies completely on these business owners would simply neglect paying them at least enough to live off of. If they did they would surely face lawsuits and substantial losses in business. It is a service industy after all.



Dude when the insurance company is hit up with a million claims at once it could take along time to pay off. Also you have to prove all the shit that was destroyed or taken.

Shroomism. Last I heard big screen tv's and steros and shit isn't necessaties to live. Especially when the power is out. How can one talk about morals when there theiving lol.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: CaptainH13]
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I totally agree. People thinking about material possession at a time like that are fucking ignorant anyway. It is all about survival of the fittest. The material possessions aren't doing a god damn thing when you're starving and dehydrating.


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: mantis]
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Alot of those looters no longer have homes much less food or sanitary water. Some of the police told people to take what they need only if they would take it to another neighborhood that had no stores left. Alot of it comes out of need. Official help is not getting to everyone so I guess they have to take matters into their own hands.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: CaptainH13]
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CaptainH13 said:
in that instance i would whole heartily agree...Survival is key...




but looting for material shit,is stupid as holy fuck..


The concept of anyone owning that material shit in the first place is pretty dumb.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: Twister]
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Twister351 said:
The concept of anyone owning that material shit in the first place is pretty dumb.


What are you doing on a computer then??


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: peeper]
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I've already drawn the distinction between looting for survival and stealing for the sake of stealing.

You guys should clarify your positions, some of you make it sound like you'd be cleaning out the local Best Buy.

If we all agree that looting for survival is morally acceptable then there isn't much to debate. I highly doubt everyone shares this viewpoint but it seems to be the prevailing one.


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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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Let me ask you a question Quantum. What about the man who's kids are starving who comes into your store to loot some food and bottled water? You take a shot at him and miss. In return he pulls out a gun and blows your brains all over the wall. Was it worth it?


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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I was talking about looting food, water, clothes.. things of survival.. not TVs


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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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QuantumMeltdown said:
The time it takes to get you merchandise back can cost put you out of business and ruin your lively hood.


Does it take longer than pumping dry a flooded city, then rebuilding half of it?

What kind of business could you hope to do in such an area? Do you think people are suddenly going to want to buy a DVD player a few days into a disaster like this?


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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QuantumMeltdown said:
Dude when the insurance company is hit up with a million claims at once it could take along time to pay off. Also you have to prove all the shit that was destroyed or taken.



Every insurance agency will have all of their agents working overtime as soon as the transportation is possible within the affected areas. In cases like this they aren't going to bother spending a ton of time on every case, they're just going to pay of the people for what they claim. If they had their agents spend enough time to meticulously check every case for extreme valididty they would end up paying them more than they were paying the business owners in the claims. Businesses are insured for a certain amount of money, and when the assessors go to investigate a claim in NO they're gonna see that most of them are essentially complete losses and they will simply pay them the maximum amount they are insured for.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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QuantumMeltdown said:
Twister351 said:
The concept of anyone owning that material shit in the first place is pretty dumb.


What are you doing on a computer then??


I'm replying to your last grasps at self-righteousness. But seriously, did I say I owned this computer? Nope. It may seem crazy but some people don't really care that much about possessions. For the moment I only "possess" things that I need to get by until I graduate college. When I graduate, which I only care about becasue I know it will make my parents happy and I think I owe it to them, I will promply leave everything that could be construed as mine behind and venture off into the woods.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: Twister]
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Try and justify it anyway you can. A theif is a theif.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: Twister]
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Why is it that every hippie preaches peace and love and understanding and wants to go live in the woods and shit. But their the first to steal from their fellow man? How is that peace and love?(Im not talking about taking food/water) Even if you steal from a big company you are stealing from individuals because there are people who hold stock in that company.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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heres a question for you, if things go to hell and you feel that someone may try and steal what little food your family has, would it be a necisity to steal a gun? i have read about gun shops being cleared out in the area, and there are these "roaming street gangs" and shootouts with the police happening.

would stealing a gun be a within necisity?


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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People don't consider big business their fellow man. I sure as hell don't.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: ZippoZ]
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zippoz said:
heres a question for you, if things go to hell and you feel that someone may try and steal what little food your family has, would it be a necisity to steal a gun? i have read about gun shops being cleared out in the area, and there are these "roaming street gangs" and shootouts with the police happening.

would stealing a gun be a within necisity?



You got a link to where you read that?? That's pretty wild.


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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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yeah i think that it was on the front page of yyahoo or google, ill check


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PEACE

:mushroom2:zippoz:mushroom2:



"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: ZippoZ]
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Yeah I found it at msnbc. Things are getting very bady very quickly. :frown:


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Looting gone wild [Re: ZippoZ]
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I already have a gun.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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