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Re: take down the system [Re: Shroomism]
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Well of course shroomism to the rescue! Your better then the ACLU.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

Edited by QuantumMeltdown (08/26/05 11:51 AM)

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Re: take down the system [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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I'm jus' saying is all.


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Re: take down the system [Re: headset]
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headset said:
I have no plan on taking down the system. Ill just take advantage of it.

Your either using or being used. No?

I guess your ideals represent the community quantum. See ya at the NORML rally?

Cheers.


I guess I am just pwned by the system then. Since I try to be an upstanding member of society and actually contribute to it the best I can instead of taking away from it. Even if I don't agree with all of its politics, such as the drug war. If you call that being used then your trippin. How is taking advantage of society going to accomplish anything for your cause. Your mad that a bunch of pigs raided a rave so your going to steal from credit card companies? How does that make any sense? If you wan't to be a man stop the complaining and start killing you some narcs(in a dream of course).

Also whats wrong with with NORML? Haven't been to any rallies yet but will definately be at one soon.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

Edited by QuantumMeltdown (08/26/05 12:03 PM)

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Re: take down the system [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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I just came up with an analogy for yous...

Chinese Finger trap...
when you resist you invest in the very Ideology you detest by trapping yourself with in it.
when you give in a little you gain power to manipulate and carefully remove yourself from it's control and become the controler.

If you're trying to be different you never will be.


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"You might not be aware of this, but there are a lot of dickheads on the Internet." - D. Wong

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Re: take down the system [Re: Cowgold]
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I certainly dont steal from credit card companies, but my best friend does. He's in glory cause he's a minor - he's quite hilarious actually, very engineering and stoked on using his age and smarts to his advantage.

To me.. paying a gas tax, or having a drivers liscense is pretty ridiculous. the thought of my information being out there is just so unreasonable..a liscense plate is a tracking # on your back. boarder crossing, oh how it bothers me. So ive got a hate on... fair enough?

(yes, i may want some of my own forest oneday...)

Im glad your an upstanding member of society, and do agree with positive capitilism (ie. just because you have money and pay taxes - doesnt mean your subjecting 11 year olds to work 16 hour days in a mine in brazil. ie. you are not inherently evil.) Better that you have conscience than being unconscious forsure!

Now, i didnt even say i was mad that pigs (nor would i call them pigs, ive never been hassled.) raided a rave - i was just asking people to take responsibility for their lifestyles rather than 'talking shit' about the police and proposing a revolution which NO ONE 'talking shit' will act on, and if they do - wont have effect.

Besides Killing cops isnt against 'what the shroomery is about' but stealing from corporations is?

sorry dude, i dont have a problem with the police i can do what i want, how i want, give and take, meet wonderful people, eat wonderful food, see wonderful places, get good drugs, make cool art, look/act/feel/believe what i want and not intrude on anyones rights.

government stole my mind. Not to say im not greatful, i just hate the balance im forced to mediate between being a nomad/bum/vagabond/hermit/urban.explorer and being inquizitive and respected by their standards.

Anyways, nothings wrong with NORML - i just dont see legislation being changed anytime soon. Potheads smoking pot in a group - thats cool if thats you. You'll probably make the news, and people will think the same shit about you. It was just a cheap shot because of the rating :wink:

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Re: take down the system [Re: headset]
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How old are you Headset?? Im asking not as an insult but because I used to think the same way when I was about 16-19. I used to share many of those beliefs. I used to listen to Rage Against the Machine religously but then I grew out of all that stuff. You may as well. You are very articulate and make some good points. I just don't know to many successful people who have that attitude. People with that attitude usually end up being vagrants or end up hitch hiking around the country crashing from house to house.

Whether you like it or not your going to have to get a license plate and a drivers license to drive or you will go to jail. Your going to have to pay your taxes or uncle sam will find out and come and take everything you worked hard for. Thats just the way it is.

PS. I changed your rating.


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-QuantumMeltdown

Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: take down the system [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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Hey, thanks... I just turned 20 and you can see my mental dillemas in Physical and Mental health - im not shy to admit that im totally lost.

I can expect certain responses to my idealism.. as thats how i responded to the ALF kids when i was there.. Perhaps its growing dissatisfaction or acknoledgments of the alternatives which have changed my mind. Autonomous gatherings and intentional communities have especially shown me *the light*.

I could expect you not to know many successful people who tour around, or live radically - but i do. You see the bad one's, the successful happy people are just chilling in the background and not causing problems.

Its problematic that... the bad ones are what im compared to, but as always, for now at least, im willing to stand in the face of adversity in hopes of finding an alternative to that which i deem unright for me. ITS NOT MY PLACE to intrude on others lifestyle conscious or not, and its not theres for them to intrude on mine... There are alternatives...

Man, some of the people i met this summer (k, gotta work now, Ill post later with pictures and stories of summer travel, and furthur idea.)

Thanks for battling this through Quantum. Ill hit you up later. :smile:

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