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OfflineEl_Presidente
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Thorn apples
    #4563106 - 08/21/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Take a look at my D. Stramonium, theres some nice big apples coming along.






When would be a good time to harvest?


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4563278 - 08/21/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Harvest the seeds you mean? Wait until they open and turn brown, then you just shake them out.


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4563291 - 08/21/05 05:55 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Nice pics, be sure to get some with flowers.

>>When would be a good time to harvest?
The seeds should be done developing now, I personaly would wait for the pods to dry on the plant then cut them off that way you just crush the pod and collect seeds.

If your harvesting simply to get doses, then theyre done now. But that doesnt mean its a good idea to eat them(Expecialy seeds). Never eat or injest any part of this plant, it is highly toxic and kills people everyyear.


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: Legoulash]
    #4563306 - 08/21/05 06:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

No need to crush them, when the pods are ready they open up and they are ready to collect. They should dry out thoroughly before planting, you could do that outside of the pod, or if the climate allows for it, they could dry out in the pod. Even if it's open, the seeds will be safe in the pod for quite a while and they won't fall out.


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4563881 - 08/21/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

heck, i just picked some flowers & made a nice tincture/perfume (into grain alcohol)...
(& mr. skull&bones on the bottle, mmmkay?)


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: gnrm23]
    #4736204 - 09/30/05 12:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

For some reason the flowers keep drying up and falling off before I get a chance to take a picture.

I found a bunch of potted datura that I had forgotten about, the plants were weak and looked like shit but I picked a few nice apples off them and clipped the leaves. Should I leave the apples be until they dry and open or seeing as their not on the plant anymore should I open them myself?


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4778835 - 10/09/05 10:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I waited until the pod opened like you said and harvested the seeds when they were loose.



I got all that from one of the smallest pods, imagine what im gonna get from the big ones. I was wondering if the pods are worth keeping, do they contain a decent amount of alkaloids?


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4788403 - 10/11/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't bother, keep them because they look cool.


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: BorgFace]
    #4788555 - 10/11/05 08:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Just wait till the pod cracks, when that happens the seeds are almost all mature , germination is very high . If you dont want to loose seeds to exploding thornapples , take a small piece of pantyhose nylon, tie the end, and put it over a mature ( but un opened ) thornapple , when it pops, most if not all of the seeds will end up in the pantyhose, it also breaths so they dont mold , not a serious problem to begin with , and yes the 'pod' itself, has nearly as much alkaloid content as the mature seed . I would seriously advise against consuming them , read through shroomery , there have been many posts in regards to this . Extreamly Dangerous unless one understands the plant well, and still very dangerous if one does ... Pretty flowers however, and the pods themselves, while not ' pretty' are for simple sake of their shape and odd appearance, attractive -Tranceharper


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4788906 - 10/11/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

If you ever decide to 'uproot' the plant can you please post a few pics of the roots from an arm length's distance?


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: World Spirit]
    #4789014 - 10/11/05 10:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

you are putting datura in dime bags? uh oh!


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4789058 - 10/11/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed. You don't want to jeapordize anyone's life or state of well being. Check this out:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4788795/Main/4778803/#Post4788795


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: World Spirit]
    #4791711 - 10/12/05 09:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Now is not the time for uprooting. In a month...


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: Tinkal]
    #4822610 - 10/18/05 10:38 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah if not for doses ill keep the pods because they are so unique and odd looking. I was clipping a cracked seed pod off my biggest plant the other day and I accidently chopped the stem so I lost a good portion of the plant. Its had a full life, wether I uproot it or not I doubt its gonna last too much longer so I think im gonna pull it up to see the roots. Ill take pictures if I do.

"you are putting datura in dime bags? uh oh! "
Dont worry the seeds arent for doses. Anyway I took the seeds outta the bag because they were starting to mold, im letting them dry in an open dark space at the moment.


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Re: Thorn apples [Re: El_Presidente]
    #4822658 - 10/18/05 10:50 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

umm jimsons weed


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