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eligal
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harvesting and curing
#5261207 - 02/03/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, overgrow is down, and might be down for a while. coincidently, tomorrow i was going to harvest and begin the curing or whatever of my mj plants. i was going to use the overgrow harvest page and their curing page. but its gone.
so i really need help with that.... i basically know where i want to cut etc, and with the main plant i will do a reveg, and have sufficient info on that (thanks to you guys! ) but with the harvesting and curing, whats the process? i cut, and then hang upside down. and then? i hang them in the dark right? and how long does it take? when do i put them in jars for curing? the jars should be stored in a dark place and aired out once a day? cold temps? or room temps? and curing lasts for 6 months, and then you can smoke it. although if needed you can start smokin early. and after a year it starts to degrade or whatever.
help me guys! ive been askin for alot of help, im sorry, but i realyl need it! when i learn it all and know what im doing then ill pass on the knowledge. but i gotta learn it first.  thx!
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5262228 - 02/04/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cut off your branches, and hang them upside down in a closet. I hang them off of coat hangers. Leave the leaves on for a day or two. Then manicure. By day 5-6, they should be dry enough to begin to cure.
Bend a stem and see if it snaps. If it bends it is still too wet. Once you are sure they are dry enough put them in jars.
The first couple days is when you have to look out for mold. In the begining, you can open the jars a couple times a day. Then gradually work your way down to once a day. Then every other day etc. The smell should change from hay-like to a tangy citrus smell depending on the genetics.
Within about a month they should be cured well enough to enjoy a smooth and tasty smoke.
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Great advice...
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5262242 - 02/04/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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after you harvest the buds, you're going to have to manicure them. this means that you'll have to cut off all the fan leaves, etc, that's not going to be especially smokable. you can save the trim and make hash out of it, though. once you've trimmed up your buds, hang them up to dry in a dark closet for about a week. having a bit of airflow is good, so the buds can dry. otherwise you might be looking at moldy buds. after a week, take one of the buds and gently bend it. if you can feel the stem inside bend a bit and then snap, then it's time for the cure jars. if you don't feel it snap, give it another day or two, and try again.
when curing in jars, the purpose is to let some of the chlorophyll convert to starches and sugars, which will mellow out the smoke A LOT. there's some other chemistry, too, but i can't think of it off the top of my head. to cure, take the buds and GENTLY place them in a mason jar or other suitable glass jar. leave them in a cool, dark place, and open them once a day for 10 minutes or so. every other day, GENTLY turn the buds in the jars to make sure that air gets to all parts of them. after anywhere from a week to two weeks, your buds should be sufficiently dry, at which point you can stop opening the jars every day, and just let them hang out.
i think that a steadfast 6-month cure may be a bit extreme. some people like to cure their buds that long, but some pot tastes the same after a 2 month cure as it does after a 6 month cure. it's all up to you. my suggestion: give the buds a 1 month cure after you've stopped opening the jars. pull some out, smoke it, and decide if it's a little harsh, if it's not quite as flavorful as you like, or if it's absolutely perfect. dsepending on your opinion, let it cure for a bit longer, or smoke the hell out of it. if it needs more time, check it in another month. do this until you find what you deem is your ideal cure time for that strain.
good luck my friend. if you have any questions, hit me up with a PM. remember too, there are lots of MJ forums on the web, and stoners everywhere are scrambling for a community right now. look around, and you might find another happy home. try cannabisculture or international cannagraphic.
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5262255 - 02/04/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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eligal said: well, overgrow is down, and might be down for a while. coincidently, tomorrow i was going to harvest and begin the curing or whatever of my mj plants. i was going to use the overgrow harvest page and their curing page. but its gone.
so i really need help with that.... i basically know where i want to cut etc, and with the main plant i will do a reveg, and have sufficient info on that (thanks to you guys! ) but with the harvesting and curing, whats the process? i cut, and then hang upside down. and then? i hang them in the dark right? and how long does it take? when do i put them in jars for curing? the jars should be stored in a dark place and aired out once a day? cold temps? or room temps? and curing lasts for 6 months, and then you can smoke it. although if needed you can start smokin early. and after a year it starts to degrade or whatever.
help me guys! ive been askin for alot of help, im sorry, but i realyl need it! when i learn it all and know what im doing then ill pass on the knowledge. but i gotta learn it first.  thx!
you dont have to hang it upside down altogether. you can cut it, then go individually to each bud and trim/manicure it the way you like. i suggest you save the leaves around the bud for hash. i like to take the trimmed buds and put them on a (very fine) screen, put the screen over a mirror (this is optional, i like to collect whatever might be lost during drying), and put a fan blowing on the lowest setting, to as much as a light breeze you can get, over the buds (or in a room with decent air circulation). it will usually take around 4-5 days to dry, and you want them to dry slowly to retain potency. to tell when they are dry, you should be able to snap a stem, preferably one inside a bud to make sure the inside is dry too. i dont think you want them super dry before cure tho.. leave them with a bit a moisture, and jar them up. dont fill up the jar all the way. leave some room to gently move around the buds each time you burp the jar. each day you will open up the jars, first for 20 min, and then you slowly bring down the time you leave open. i dont know how long until you can just leave them in the jar.. you definitely dont need a 6 month cure tho. after a one month cure, you should have some nice flavor and a good smoke. that is, if you even make it to a month without smoking it all
hopefully that helps. keep it simple, and you will be fine.. harvesting is a fun activity IMO 
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eligal
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thx guys! did my harvest. its lookin ok, i got them in a closet in my room. and now my room stinks like crazy... lol. its like minty stem...
now i need to find and easy way to get rid of the smell (i should have thought of this before, i used to have this can thingy that would absorb the smell, but i dont have it anymore). i need to get rid of the smell for at least just one day/morning when someone is coming over... any suggestions?
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5264649 - 02/04/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Vertigo6911]
#5265433 - 02/05/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Open up some windows and leave the door open so it can all vent. The spray some air freshener a couple of times and you should be good. Try to get those air fresheners that will absorb the smell instead of masking them (just like in the commercial lol)
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Brakkie]
#5267648 - 02/05/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Depends how your grew the plant. If you grew soil or want the best effect you are supposed to cut and hang the entire plant. But if you grow DWC (deep water culture) hydroponics or some other hydroponic method that keeps the plants saturated at the roots for a decent amount of time you can just clip the buds and trim them immediately. Either method requires you to dry the buds while monitoring the drying process. You really want the nuggets bone dry before canning them to cure. 5% or less moisture is preferred as the final buds moisture content. It is quite apparent drying a large nugget; it first weights 38 grams fresh, then after a few days it weighs 28 grams but it is still to wet and in another couple days it becomes 24 grams. This is with DWC, as the buds tend to dry well being immediately plucked and dried. If a large amount of moisture is not in the buds and you pluck and dry immediately you risk the buds drying too quickly. The effect of a too quickly dried bud is unpleasant. If you grew in soil it would be best to dry the entire plant.
If you want to reveg it is best to clip the top of the plant and leave the bottom part with some foliage. Be very careful with the nutrients as you will shock the plant if you don't significantly reduce them. 16/8 lighting with convert the plant back to vegging in 2 or 3 weeks. It is much better to just take a clone during veg rather then reveg. Also helps to have the plants in hydroponics to control the nutrient levels rather precisely.
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Fluxburn]
#5268596 - 02/06/06 06:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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btw, i just wanted to thank you all again, i got the smell under control rather easily, and im feeling confident about the buds. sadly, im starting to think i will have to get rid of my plant... i have the feeling i could, in the near future, be ratted out. not by friends, not by neighbors, but by my own family. ive had some arguments with a person in my family and im afraid that if things get really bad, which it looks like they might, he might rat me out to get revenge... (i had never told them, but then i had an accident and when my mom and dad came over i obviously coudnt move or hide things...) 
im not sureit will get that far. i still have a few months till it would reach that point.
so again, thanx all for your support! i couldnt have done it without you guys. and if i clear this up with my family, then ill keep the plant and youll see some killer bud in the near future
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5280690 - 02/09/06 04:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmm, although i was a horrible grower, for many reasons, and this being my first harvest, i think it actually went pretty well. its sticky icky as hell btw. 





 i truely think its gonna be pretty good, but the theres only one way to find out
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5284035 - 02/09/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks good man. Congrats
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: browndustin]
#5302422 - 02/15/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks damn fine for your first grow man. A good month cure in a mason jar'll make that just about perfect. Enjoy!
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Hrethic]
#5302548 - 02/15/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is that the only nug that was yielded?
BTW, I'de say to cure it for ATLEAST a week opening the jar each day and venting it to prevent molding. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to hold off from that for a whole month!
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: AKSE]
#5303363 - 02/15/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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no thats not the only nug but the biggest, i got a closet full of nice lil nugs, but that was my favorite. 
thanx all!
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5306212 - 02/16/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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when you grow weed, does it smell alot?
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Jack_Flash]
#5307665 - 02/16/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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bump, i need this simple question answered, does an undried, alive, growing plant smell?
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: Jack_Flash]
#5307880 - 02/16/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It depends. If it is budding, It gets smellier than when dried. Young plants don't smell though.
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eligal
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yea they dont really smell too much. but when they start buddin you better watch out... lol.
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5308311 - 02/16/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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exactly.
while in vegetative stage, they dont smell, when they start budding is when they start to smell more and more(more and more as the buds ripen/swell up)
that looks pretty damn nice bro, congrats! what strain is she?
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its the "ice" strain.
and yea the buds look pretty damn good, they smell good too, and are sticky as hell, stickier than anything ive ever smoked... lol. and this under horrible growing conditions... imagine the buds this strain can make with the right conditions
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5309300 - 02/17/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hell yeah man, mind sharing your grow specs? care to tell us how it was grown?
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my grow specs were horrible..... lol
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5313251 - 02/18/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It just goes to show that there's no excuse for shitty bud! When I see someone bust open a sack of rancid nugs, I just wanna kick the bastards in the face that let that happen.. sometimes it's the grower who doesn't cure it or flush it properly, or losers that transport it really crappy.
There's nothing better than nice homegrown nugs. My new friend should have a harvest ready in a few weeks. Maybe he'll be comfortable enough to let me trim with him! Best nugs I've ever smoked. Yours looks nice too. I love buds that have had a nice manicure. Once again, nice nugs, eligal. I hope they smoke good.
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: browndustin]
#5313270 - 02/18/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hehe tanx, ill tell how they smoked when ever i try some (maybe tonight?)
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: eligal]
#5313715 - 02/18/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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To cure budz properly I find that putting the buds in front of a strong fan for a minimum of 4 days is best. You really want your budz bone dry before you put them into canning jars. If you have them too wet and not bone dry have fun with bud mold! Literally you should have no moisture. 5% moisture is what your buds are supposed to have which is really nothing. You have can your buds 0% moisture and jar them if you environment has 50% humidity, since the air is going to water in it.
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well, one can't really say how many days to have buds fan drying for, because it all depends on how dense the bud you're drying is. some big ass colas can take a week and a half to dry. and NO you do NOT want to bone dry your bud to cure, that defeats the purpose of curing. All you'll have then is some harsh smoke.
what a person needs to do is dry their buds until the stem they are attached to snaps clean(no bending, a clean snap). the stems should be dry, yes, but the buds should still be a bit moist in the center.
The idea of curing is to sweat this inner moisture outward to spread it evenly throughout the bud so it gets evenly dried, when you see the moisture building up in the jars, you take the buds out and feel them again, and youll see that the inner moisture is not drawn to the outside. You just give them some fresh air, letting the moisture evaporate, then seal buds back in jar and keep doing this until there is no more moisture sweating out of the bud. that is the process of curing as i see it.
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Drying them that fast seems shady to me. That's what bullshit growers do when they're only concerned with money.
Cure your buds properly. Drying them that fast is going to wreck the buds. Water cure them if you want a start to finish process that's going to be under 2 weeks... and end up with a very smokable product.
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: browndustin]
#5664945 - 05/23/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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what is a water cure?
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: impgl]
#5665317 - 05/23/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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water curing is when you submerge your freshly harvested buds in water for ~7 days straight, changing the water to fresh water once every day. then you dry it in dehydrater and its ready to smoke.
correct me if i am wrong, thats what i remember about it. its good for those who use chemical fertz and didnt flush them out. it will flush out that disgusting taste. or if u get nasty bud off the street that needs flushed, u can water cure them when dry as well, i believe. im thinking it will work if you get molds too, but not sure.
Its not reccommended for commercial growers because you lose a lot of weight. but for the personal grower who wants the smoothest smoke and more thc by weight, water curing is the way to go.
like i said, if im wrong, somebody needs to correct me, i rememeber this from the OG article they had on it.
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No need for corrections as far as my experiences were concerned. 
I tried this with fresh bud as I had no other option at the time. I took the plunge as it was relatively moist, and I'd say not even cured for more than 2 weeks. Still a great stone, but weird, moist bud.
The results were excellent. I used a zig zag white, rolled backwards (gum facing inwards to minimize the amount of paper) and the ashes were so incredibly whispy! I should have dried it a little better, but smoked it mainly out of anticipation.
Once the water cured, semi-fresh buds were fully dried, I had similar results. This time the bud really shrank down but smoked awesome in a joint. I was a bit disappointed that even the bone dry buds would shrink with snipping. I could have used an electric grinder, but what a lot of work for a simple joint!
I tried the same thing with REAL fresh buds, just harvested off the plants and trimmed. I manicured them and did the same thing. Wow, the results were a LOT better. Granted, I am very familiar with this exact strain and F1 as my friends been growing it for years and I typically have a good supply. MMM... the flavors were very crisp, the ashes where very whispy and white as a ghost, and the bud shrank down just a little bit compared to the other, odd buds I used. I would disregard the first test as the beds were very soft and questionable to begin with. Very good buds, but too rubbery.
I think it's really worth tinkering with, but I don't always have access to fresh bud. And although this is a FOAF, he charges $100 for a half oz of his stuff because he does not deal. Just needs help with the rent due to a knee injury and old age. I am still gracious for his expensive-ass buds!!! Going to smoke some right now seeing as how I smoke ultra light these days (average of 5-8 puffs a week at most).
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Re: harvesting and curing [Re: browndustin]
#5669411 - 05/24/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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