sox24 said:

Ravus, who didn't love you to cause you to create threads and attitudes like this that you know will cause arguments and dislike towards you? Why do you need conflict? Radar's done, he's in jail. You can still be saved. There are people here who would care a lot about you if you accepted their love. There are people here who probably still love you in spite of your attitudes, I'm not one of them.

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Ravus said:

The deeds have already been done.

Do people who support Christianity think of the families of the victims who have been burned alive by the religion? No? Does this mean we have to demonize Christianity, simply because it has tortured and killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people? No, not in my opinion. We can demonize it, which won't bring anyone back, or we can study it and try to understand it and see it in different lights, which also won't bring anyone back but may help to advance our knowledge and understanding.

Evil is, after all, subjective.

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sox24 said:

Evil isn't subjective, you just think it is.

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Evil is subjective, you just think it isn't. 

sox24 said:

Maybe evil has only been around as long as people who believed in it. I believe in evil to the extent that the merciful and loving God made it. I don't know the answers to your questions because you don't know what you are asking. Maybe the world and the universe are nothing more than the set for our souls, where we act out the play of life. Maybe things are not as they appear, that's what I'd like to think. Don't think you can discredit me when I can't come up with the answers men have been asking since we have developed the brains to question, questions that most likely have no answers except to test a person's faith or challenge their minds to love.

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sox24 said:

There is a right and wrong.  I believe so if for no other reason that you believe there isn't.

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I must be a monumental force in your reality then, eh?

Believing something because someone doesn't believe it is just as bad as believing something because they do believe it. Why don't you learn to think for yourself? Learn to question, ask for evidence, look at the world differently. You seem to be caught up in a lapse of spirituality; I hope you can pull through.

Ravus said:

sox24 said:

Maybe evil has only been around as long as people who believed in it. I believe in evil to the extent that the merciful and loving God made it. I don't know the answers to your questions because you don't know what you are asking. Maybe the world and the universe are nothing more than the set for our souls, where we act out the play of life. Maybe things are not as they appear, that's what I'd like to think. Don't think you can discredit me when I can't come up with the answers men have been asking since we have developed the brains to question, questions that most likely have no answers except to test a person's faith or challenge their minds to love.

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The reason these questions have no answers is because the answers lie in Darwinism, science and logic.

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Ravus said:

sox24 said:

There is a right and wrong.  I believe so if for no other reason that you believe there isn't.

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I must be a monumental force in your reality then, eh?

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Ravus said:

Indeed, I agree. It may be irrelevant for me to post that because I know the nature of emotions, and people will always try to make the pleasant ones their entire mindset or lifestyle. And of course, they won't usually succeed; humans may hate suffering, but they can't live without it, otherwise we'd destroy the entire point of having negative and unpleasant feelings and emotions.

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Here you are wrong. I do not try to make plesant ones my entire mindset. (you implied all people do this) . I realize I grow from many unplesant experiences. I believe if I allow these unpleasant feelings explore them (I do not have to act them out to explore them) I will grow and have more of what I want. Logically I want an expansive joyfull feeling, so this is a means to that end. Sometimes Ravus it seems you equate suffering as the end and the means. It seems from other posts you glorify suffering and try to make unplesant experience your guide. Which would be just the reverse of what you accuse me of doing. 

Ravus said:

Indeed, I agree. It may be irrelevant for me to post that because I know the nature of emotions, and people will always try to make the pleasant ones their entire mindset or lifestyle. And of course, they won't usually succeed; humans may hate suffering, but they can't live without it, otherwise we'd destroy the entire point of having negative and unpleasant feelings and emotions.

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gettinjiggywithit said:

Ravus said:

I use survival in a Darwinistic sense after all. I doubt his kids will grow up to be serial killers; I would bet becoming a serial killer has more to do with the environment's activation of your potential than the genetics themselves.

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Genetics may play a role. Remember that Veritas cited studies that said serial killers did not have the mammalian portion of the brain functioning normally. She didn't mention if it was a genetic disorder or not.

Anybody know?

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