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why drugs are illegal?
    #4446435 - 07/24/05 12:30 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I've read a couple books and just finished watching a documentary on cocaine and pot on the history channel and it seems the common link between their prohibition stems from the white mans fear of black people. they actually created bigger bullets back in the day to combat "cocaine crazed black men" from raping innocent morphine addicted white whores of the day. Pot was first restricted in this country to keep "violent marijuana smoking mexicans" from taking jobs and loitering. and it goes without saying that the southern states were the first to adopt the first anti drug laws (given it applied mainly to minorities). This pisses me off, not only have ignorant redneck racist assholes taken over this country, but they're the main reason I can't legally medicate.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4446438 - 07/24/05 12:32 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Yep... two main reasons drugs are illegal today

- Racism (the big one)
- Fascism
and you cant forget stupidity, arrogance and illogical thinking
mostly fueled by greed and money


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4446461 - 07/24/05 12:46 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

There is also one other documentary you should try to find, called "Ecstasy Rising" with Peter Jennings as host. Goes in to detail about how this mad-scientist-looking guy came up with the substance, and how much it helped a whole lot of people in (somewhat underground) clinical trials with problems such as post-traumatic stress disorder, depression of various types, and probably a few other mental issues. Then for whatever reason the FDA wouldn't examine it or do real trials so it sort of never became widely useful. But then a guy who had tried it via his psychiatrist decided, hey it's safe and good and not illegal so I'm gonna make it and sell it in the Dallas scene - and then a few years later the DEA made it illegal on the usual illogical grounds, and even made up some lies with bad science to help keep it down (such as, "it puts holes in your brain" which is complete, complete, complete bullshit).


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4446474 - 07/24/05 12:55 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Ellemys husband talked about that the subject at the NE Gathering and he had some very valid points. Drugs are illegal because you are not a good worker feeding the capitalist machine. With alcohol you can party all night and still go to work the next day using the other two legal drugs, caffeine and nicotine.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4446490 - 07/24/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Drugs are illegal because they cannot be controlled or taxed like humans can.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Jim]
    #4446492 - 07/24/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

exactly.. and all those drugs are toxic. lethal even.
It is the mind-expanding drugs that are illegal, and for good reason.. from their perspective.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Adden]
    #4446495 - 07/24/05 01:04 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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s2dope said:
Drugs are illegal because they cannot be controlled or taxed like humans can.




Sure they can.. drugs were controlled and taxed and grown freely in america before they became illegal.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4446506 - 07/24/05 01:07 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Certainly it is possible but if marijuana became legal and the government wanted their cut, would you be buying a pack of joints or growing your own plants?

Eating shitty FDA controlled mushrooms, or your poo/straw giants?


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Adden]
    #4446521 - 07/24/05 01:12 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Certainly, I would grow my own shit.. That doesn't mean there's not like 10 million more suckers that would go to 7-11 and buy a pack of joints.. because they are too lazy/whatever, to actually grow it. So instead of wasting billions of dollars on a drug war that doesnt do anything and keeping innocent people in jail.. we save that money.. and make extra from all the taxes. People get the choice to grow their own stuff freely or buy it, government makes extra money, and we all know how they love their money. Win/Win


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4446531 - 07/24/05 01:16 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I grew up in the latter parts of the Hippie era and it pisses me off that reefer is still illegal ....I really did think it would be de-criminalized by now

You can legally make youself retarded with alcahol but smoking a joint is totally illegal... :confused:


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4446536 - 07/24/05 01:18 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Mind control and government profit are the primary reasons for drug illegality.





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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Shroomism]
    #4446543 - 07/24/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Shroomism said:
Quote:

s2dope said:
Drugs are illegal because they cannot be controlled or taxed like humans can.




Sure they can.. drugs were controlled and taxed and grown freely in america before they became illegal.




yes but that was before SSRI's and other meds that marijuana would take money away from the pharamaciutical companies.

i think the number one reason is money.

oh and gratefull jim drugs make great worker bee's out of people what's a better performance enhancing drug than cocaine or meth.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: buckwheat]
    #4446772 - 07/24/05 02:45 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

coke and meth heads would, I'd think, probably not be the best workers. the government doesn't want a bunch of drugged out people AT work (for good reason) and so they give them alcohol, something they can do after work.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: lukeboots]
    #4446821 - 07/24/05 03:07 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Na, they didn't "give them alcohol", don't forget that alcohol had to be fought for.. prohibition.

And yeah, I think most people would grow their own if they're anything like me, but there would sometimes be waiting on harvest-time etc. etc. And at that point a trip to 7-11 would be nice to be able to do.

The Amsterdam growers would open coffee shops in America. Probably Las Vegas first.

I would walk down the street blazing away. It would be total paradise, or at least a hell of a lot closer to it.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4447058 - 07/24/05 04:31 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

EVEN IF they legalize weed.....you will never be able to.....
walk down the street blazing away
:rolleyes:

I'm willing to bet the public intoxication laws would prevent that.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: niteowl]
    #4447164 - 07/24/05 05:15 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I would blaze away if it was legal and fuck intoxination laws...we allready do that with beer wine ectera anyway


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: soochi]
    #4447215 - 07/24/05 05:29 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE LSD 7 TIMES YOU'RE LEGALLY INSANE, THAT'S WHY.

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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: niteowl]
    #4447238 - 07/24/05 05:37 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah but if it's legal it wouldn't be just me doing it anymore. LOL Everyone would start blazing in public, and they'd have to start tolerating it.


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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Spudz76]
    #4447472 - 07/24/05 06:44 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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There is also one other documentary you should try to find, called "Ecstasy Rising" with Peter Jennings as host.  Goes in to detail about how this mad-scientist-looking guy came up with the substance, and how much it helped a whole lot of people in (somewhat underground) clinical trials with problems such as post-traumatic stress disorder, depression of various types, and probably a few other mental issues.  Then for whatever reason the FDA wouldn't examine it or do real trials so it sort of never became widely useful.  But then a guy who had tried it via his psychiatrist decided, hey it's safe and good and not illegal so I'm gonna make it and sell it in the Dallas scene - and then a few years later the DEA made it illegal on the usual illogical grounds, and even made up some lies with bad science to help keep it down (such as, "it puts holes in your brain" which is complete, complete, complete bullshit).




Might not put holes in your brain, but nontheless neurotoxic, causing neuron axon and fiber damage, long-term decrease in not only serotonin but also 5-HIAA, it's metabolite that synthesizes it to begin with. There are also decreases in the density of the serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT), the protein on the membrane of serotonergic neurons that recycles released serotonin by pulling it back into the cell. So in short, not only decreases serotonin, but prevents resynthesization of the it by depleting the brain of it's metabolites.
And in animal and primate studies, there have been permanent degration in axonal neuron structure in parts of the brain.

Sorry to take this thread off-topic, but molly is definetly not harmless.

As far as the war on drugs, it'd be pretty scary to pick up a bag of blow OTC if (the war) were to end, then again it'd lead to end gang and mafia wars and the drug could be taxed. I'd rather have the war end on hallucinogens and marijuana.

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Re: why drugs are illegal? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4447712 - 07/24/05 07:56 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Yeah but if it's legal it wouldn't be just me doing it anymore. LOL Everyone would start blazing in public, and they'd have to start tolerating it.



Oh dern that would be horrible if toleration was rampant


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