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Psychotria berries
    #4384352 - 07/08/05 05:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I harvested berries from my 3 and a half year old plant. I am going to start some from seed. What do you think is a reasonable length of time for germination? Do you think propagating from a leaf cutting is easier? Thanks for your input.


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: gardentoad]
    #4384660 - 07/08/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Certainly leaf propagation is easier,each leaf can give up to 6 plants! Certainly that is very nice and convenient,and the plants you are getting are clones. This option will be there always for you,at any time you can snap a leaf and there it goes!

Growing from seed is more difficult,but ensures bigger genetic variability in your population,which means from different percentages of actives to different traits in the plants you might find interesting.You have fresh berries i imagine a quite nice amount,why not take advantage of it? Try some seeds out and also a leaf.If the seeds sprout (they will,they just need time) more power to you and more genetic variability!

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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: Psiloman]
    #4385026 - 07/08/05 09:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Leaves are indeed the most convenient method. They do take quite some time to throw out shoots. I planted some leaves in october and currently have a few chacrunas ranging from 1 to 3 inches that grow relatively slow compared to most my other plants.

I read in a brazilian forum on entheogens that in terms of growth vigour in the early stages, berries will give best results. Second is cuttings. Leaves produce the least vigorous plantlets, but also the most number of them.

My plantlets seem to be enjoying the hotness outside, and aren't suffering much from the dryness as i would expect. But i do give them a couple mistings a day.



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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: esin]
    #4385361 - 07/08/05 11:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

esin, would i just put a leaf in water for a few months until it appears that roots have grown?


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: jben]
    #4386110 - 07/09/05 06:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It would root in a couple of weeks or so. Than you'd have to put them in soil for a few motnhs until they send out shoots.

Or you can put them straight into the soil.

I tried both ways with the leaves i had. Didn't really find any significant differences between the ones that rooted in water and the ones that rooted in soil.


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: esin]
    #4386559 - 07/09/05 12:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

a couple of weeks hot damn! sounds good man. btw, i do say that your "plantlets" haha look wonderful.


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: jben]
    #4386592 - 07/09/05 01:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A couple of weeks for rooting, but much longer for shoots (3-4months or so).

I like them as well  :grin: That's an old pic actually, they've gotten bigger by now.



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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: esin]
    #4386655 - 07/09/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Very nice esin. I have some leaf cuttings that were taking in October as well, they arent quite as large as your...Jesus these things grow slow. Any idea if they pick after a little while?


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: Chemical_Bliss]
    #4386693 - 07/09/05 01:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, so far the bigger they are the faster they grow :smile:

If you have them inside go ahead and acclimatize them outdoors (well if your  temps aren't too low). Mine started growing a lot faster and healthier since i moved them outside.


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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: esin]
    #4389609 - 07/10/05 01:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Leaves will produce plants but it takes 3 to 6 months to get a reasonable sized plant that way (6"). Seeds take from a couple weeks to 6 months to germ. cuttings are the best way to go but if the plant is flowering the cuttings may not root. My plants are forming berries but it'll be a few months before they are ripe. Don't pick the berries before they are bright red or purple. Purple is a little overripe but the seeds from it are good.

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Re: Psychotria berries [Re: Stonehenge]
    #4396852 - 07/12/05 07:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No way the easiest way to make a cutling and put it in water, it grows roots, then to ground. So easy.


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