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OfflineStrandedVoyager
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Paranoia related to growing.
    #4182009 - 05/16/05 01:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I hope this isn't off-topic since I think it's related to cultivation but I thought I'd ask since this is troubling me.

Yesterday while I was working on substrate and washing dishes, I started to get this massive wave of paranoia about what I am trying to do. I got a low level panic attack thinking about all the terrible scenarios that could happen and how a lot of my friends know about this. Now I'm conflicted on if I should go forward or wait until people forget that I'm doing this.

I'm usually one of the more cool headed ones especially when it comes to illegal activities but I've really spooked myself on this one. Someone mentioned in the chat that it might be because I smoked weed yesterday but I've been smoking small amounts of weed almost everyday for the past week and then this just hit yesterday.

I tried searching around for other posts or thoughts on Paranoia but I only found 23 threads and none of them were really related to what I wanted to know.

So my question is, how do you deal with paranoia and how can you safeguard yourself from having problems in this hobby.

I hope this isn't a stupid question.

Thanks in advance.  :thumbup:


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4182041 - 05/16/05 02:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If alot of your friends know I say dont do it. You shouldnt tell anybody except for whoever you live with. I dont tell any of my freinds, even the ones i know from 8 years back. There is no reason to tell them. When they ask where i got shrooms i say i bought them.

edit-I just want to stress to you that the number one reason people get arrested for this is when they tell there friends.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4182071 - 05/16/05 02:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I just don't buy into that negative energy!~

period!~

I have had several friends that have bought into the Paranoia...over the years.

They deleted every post that they had here at the Shroomery...and all their pictures...etc.
Basically messing up the board with blank spots here and there...I'm sure you have seen missing posts with names deleted.

If the DEA hasn't gone after people like my friend Agar and I...for example.
They surely won't be going after you for posting on the Shroomery.
We have been showing grows and giving growing advice for years!~

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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4182072 - 05/16/05 02:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Try the Security forum.

When I first began I had alot of paranoia a couple times..hit me the same sort of way...a few times while I was tripping out on some of my first grown mushies. I have been very carful from the start with who knows though...everything has been kept stealth (My Closet Setup link in my signature has details) and while we live in the center of town, this isnt a dealer house..no one comming in and out, traffic, ect. We also have a public dumpster shared with many other apartments that gets collected often.

In reality, its very hard to get caught. If your growing a small amount, even harder. If you dont deal anything then its even harder. The Shroomery shouldnt be a big worry for most people, if authorities ever went after people here, wed have had it happen by now and have heard about it. And theyd be going after the bigger people on the forum that MIGHT be worth the time, effort and energy. I might be one of those people which causes me slight worry every now and then, but only slight..and most on the forum dont have to worry about being one of those people because even if they do grow anything worth a bust, they dont show it off. Really hard and expensive stuff for the police at that point though.

Beyond that, thered have to just be something really stupid that goes down, police come by for something else or something. Or you get pulled over in your town with tripping people, or mushrooms...even still that only adds suspicion and thats not enough for a warrent. VERY few people get cultivating shrooms, do a search on google if you can and look into how many cases and stories on it you can find.

Being paranoid doesnt help, this can be done easily without getting caught, if you do everything smart. Having some fear and worry, is a good thing though...just make sure it keeps you safe and doesnt consume you.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: DieCommie]
    #4182084 - 05/16/05 02:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I couldn't agree more. if you have loose lips then maybe you don't give a shit about the risks. Or maybe you should have thought about that before you went and told people you were going to grow illegal mushrooms. THINK NEXT TIME! try again in ten years of grow them in someone elses house.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. *DELETED* [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4182107 - 05/16/05 02:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: cubicidal]
    #4182118 - 05/16/05 02:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

One person ratting you out isnt enough for a warrent either.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: cubicidal]
    #4182128 - 05/16/05 02:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What I think I'm going to do is tell everyone that growing shrooms is too difficult and that I couldn't figure out the hydro element of it. Then I'll disappear from my social groups for about a month and then reappear sometime in the summer and tell them I know a guy who knows a guy who can get shrooms. Sound good?

Besides I don't deal and never will, I believe shrooms should be an experience for you and your friends... I don't want my friends money and I don't want to deal with people I don't know.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4182208 - 05/16/05 02:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

That's probably your best bet. If it were me I'd take a break and try it again later. I haven't told any of my friends about my grow because even though I trust them things slip sometimes and the word would spread.


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    #4183366 - 05/16/05 07:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: cubicidal]
    #4183812 - 05/16/05 09:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd stop if a bunch of people know. Not safe. All it takes is one weakminded fool getting busted with something and he'll rat you out to save his own ass.




DING DING DING DING!! good answer.

not enough for a warrant, but enough to be watched, and that COULD be very bad, depending on what else you do.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: The_Green_Glow]
    #4184089 - 05/16/05 10:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The word of an informant (I think it may require some "training" for them to be given that specific status) is considered good enough to get warrants.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4184275 - 05/16/05 11:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Naw, it's not a stupid question. As stated before, tell no one - be discreet. Also you might want to reconsider growing if you're "hot" (i.e. you've had a few serious entanglements with LEO's in your town/city). But a little paranoia in this sort of thing is not necessarily a bad thing, either. Be careful!


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #4184458 - 05/17/05 12:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

keep telling your friends your shit contaminated for the next month and act all pissed. then finally "give up"


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4188010 - 05/17/05 07:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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and how a lot of my friends know about this.




Loose lips sink ships.

tell no one.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: baraka]
    #4189110 - 05/17/05 11:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I am not an expert in this area, but my advice is this...

1. Do not grow illegal mushrooms w/ the intent of selling them for profit... This will eventually(or immediately) lead to trouble, END OF STORY!

2. Do not brag to your friends, or let anyone who does not live with you know about your activities... (This one is hard.. but DO IT)

Other then those 2 not so simple rules you should be fine as far as growing goes... tripping on the other hand requires other rules!


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: kimikiri]
    #4192710 - 05/18/05 09:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Listen to everyone. If you cannot trust yourself to keep a secret, trust no one else!

If you really want to, and think you are the brains of your friends, then i suggest telling them that your parents found them, or you dont wanna risk it, or they contaminated, or something else. Wait a while, and try it again a bit later. You really dont want anyone knowing your business. They might think they know, but dont let them "know."

They may have their suspicions when you say you can get some for real cheap and dont have to leave your house to go get it, etc. But dont tell them what you are doing, do not show them, do not let them know.

You think you know people, but you never know someone well enough. While they may not go snitching to the police, or even telling ANYONE. They may get caught with something on them in a traffic stop, or anything else like that. Then the police will break them, trust me. They are trained to do it, and they will make your friend snitch on you.



It happens all the time. Some random kid gets busted with a gram of pot, doesnt want to pay the $500 fine, and doesnt want his parents to know. Cops say if he gets another bust, they will let him walk, and wont let anyone know it was him.

So the kid asks a friend of his, no one too close, but someone he knows if they can score some pot, not a large amount, just enough to have fun for the weekend. Friend sell it to him, no prob.

3 months later, cops arrest the friend, friend has no clue why this is happening, and is completely flustered. He hasnt sold pot in over 2 months, and just got a new job and a new girlfriend and doesnt need this. Cops are telling him that he will serve jail time, and have a criminal record, and the only way to get off is to rat someone out. He agree's, but only if there is secrecy.

So next day friend calls you, hey wanna come smoke with me and chad? Whos chad you ask, oh my new bud dealer dood, hes got the kadankadankdank. Cool. You all go and cheech for some hours, shoot the shit, go play some video games, each some snacks.

Next day you guys go and blaze some more, and a conversation is started about shrooming. Man i wish i could shroom sometime . I can prolly get them, you say. Gotta ask a friend of mine. "Sweet! Find out, we will all shroom this 3 day weekend, we can stay at my place, parents are out of town. " says chad.

Next weekend, 3 days off of school and work. Its party time, not a single worry in the world. You go into your closet, pick all the fruits off your tiny ass casing that you have spent the last 3 months growing. You put them in a sack, and then friend, and chad come over. "Check these out" you say, as you show them to him. Chad pulls out his gun, handcuffs both of you, and calls for backup. cops raid your house, pull guns on your parents, and escort both of you to the jailhouse. You are charged with cultivation, and intent to sell a scheduled 1 substance.

You get arrested, and god only knows what happens to you.
Your friend tells you he has 12 months probation, or less because he did not sell. "How the fuck could he have been a cop? he smoked with us, and was a drug dealer. He didnt even ask for the drugs, we offered them to him. This is a fucked up world" your friend says.

He is pretty sad he had to rat you out, but better you than him.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: xburn]
    #4193823 - 05/19/05 02:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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xburn said:
keep telling your friends your shit contaminated for the next month and act all pissed. then finally "give up"




That one sounds good..


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: Kalix]
    #4208316 - 05/23/05 12:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly no one cares really. Perhaps if you are going to sell the drugs to tons of people irresponsibly or you are super parnoid and let yourself get caught due to wanting to get caught.

Let's get this straight. Doing drugs is generally accepted in our population. Even growing drugs or making them is fine, as long as you can handle your stuff. But, if you want to play into the culture that it is wrong for what you are doing, then you shall let the darkside destroy you.

You thinking it is evil makes it evil and makes the police whom moniter the evil come after you. The world can hear your voice inside your head, people know everything about you as well. Yet no one really cares about you and your probelms, that is if you actually have a probelm. Get it? So many people, so much going on, but that is what society is about. If no probelm exists, then why is there a probelm at all.

The whole thing is psychology my freind. I want to be a millionare, then be one. I want to go to jail and get ass raped for growing mushrooms, ok that is what YOU WANT!

Don't play into some stupid TV society and have people CONTROL YOU. YOU control YOUR OWN MIND and NO ONE ELSE DOES! Therefore, everything in this world is up to you to accomplish everything you need todo and everything you don't want to happen, just don't let it happen.

This isn't a jedi mind trick, this is reality! Welcome to the real world my friend, with age wisdom comes that will blow your mind.


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Re: Paranoia related to growing. [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4216674 - 05/25/05 12:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well I have a question...

If the police know that spores were delivered to a certain house once or twice, is that enough to get a search warrant?


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