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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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This post details an unconventional, intense sexual encounter between a couple who experienced emotional and physical experimentation. The poster describes a series of actions, including teasing, punishment, and dominance, aimed at controlling the partner's sexual response. They suggest using threats, withholding pleasure, and incorporating pain as rewards to maintain excitement and keep the partner engaged. The post emphasizes the importance of maintaining control and not allowing the partner to reach orgasm. The author encourages readers to adapt these techniques to their own relationships, suggesting it could satisfy their partner's desire for novelty and intensity.

mattzdope said:
We were totally in-love and the sex was aweseome and full blown emotional but she had what I would consider very fuckin odd quality's about her.. hah.. Yeah you mentioned things being boring. She stressed to me a few weeks after we got together that she NEVER wanted things to get boring between us (before we had gotten together and were just friends one night she told me that when things get boring between her and her lover that she tends to cheat). So I never let them get boring.. We would always explore new positions and situations.. Sex in the car in parking lots full of people in daylight, all over her house, my house, wherever we went (sinks,chairs,couches,floors,walls, all over the fuckin place) etc etc.. She liked the feeling that somebody could walk up and catch us at any time. Shit never got boring.

Yeah I am definately going to have a talk with her. Im really starting to think.. I totally ignored any hints she ever dropped to me. Well not ignored exactly but didn't act on them properly.

Any more input you have is appreciated man.


Alright. Here is a thought. Tell her you are going to try something new with her before the next time you fuck. Then, when she shows up, make her strip down to her panties. Grab her by the hair, hard, and pull her to the bed/couch/stage/whatever. Pull her face onto the bed by her hair and finger her through her panties for a while. Tell her that you want to spank her again, but that she has to earn it by being good. Take her clothes and hide them. This way, you can use the threat of kicking her out with only her wet panties on to make it so she will behave. Since pain is a reward to her, her punishment needs to not involve pain. After you make her really wet from fingering her, tell her to put her hands as far as she can go, and hold the position. Tell her not to move or speak until you are ready. Then leave and come to the shroomery and tell us about it. Keep an eye on her, and when she moves or talks, get mad. Grab her hair, pull it to your face, and say "I thought I told you not to talk bitch." Then, take her wet panties, rub them in her juice, and use it as a gag. Secure it with some tape, and put a dildo or something in her hand. Tell her that dropping the dildo is her way to let you know something is wrong, and watch out for it. Then, make her stay in position again sit back. Tell her that you don't feel horny yet. Today, you don't care at all about her sexual response, it's all about you. Make her wait again, and then start fucking her. Don't do any more foreplay and don't warn her first. When she responds tell her to sit still and shut up, then fuck her hard. Take your cock all the way out and ram it in really hard, several times. Do not warm her up or give her time to get used to it. If she makes eye contact, slap her (not to hard here, face slapping can cause harm), and tell her not to look at you while you are fucking you. Make her change into an uncomfortable position, which is hard for her to hold, maybe one where she has to hold her lips open for you, and then fuck her again. But, when she starts to move, yell at her for it. You told her to stay in position, and she better damn well do it. Fuck her for a while, and get her close to cumming. If she manages to stay still, tell her she has been good, but that you are bored with looking at her white ass. If she doesn't, make like you are dragging her outside, by her hair, and then tell her you will spank her and fuck her again, before kicking her out naked. Then, make her bend over a bed, and put her hands under some pillows. Get an implement, and start hitting her. Hit her fairly hard, and get her ass nice and red. If she struggles, well, thats ok. Try to make it hard enough so that she thinks about dropping the safekey, but not so hard that she actually has to. Either way, build up with the medium hard hits for a while, getti ng a little faster and harder with time, making sure not to hit the same spot over and over again. After a bit, you will notice a change in her reaction. This means the endorphins from the pain are starting to flood her head, so you can now hit her harder. Instead of keeping up a quick pace, start hitting her slow but hard. If her hand jerks back to rub her ass, this is good, it means you are getting to her. The proper response is to land the next stroke, hard, in the middle of the back of her thighs, and tell her you are going to hit her thighs until she gets her hands under control. Once she does, go back to hitting her ass hard. After about 15 hard swats, she should be done up pretty good, and you can start fucking her red ass or her pussy again. It doesn't matter which. But, make her stay in the same position you hit her in, and fuck her the same way as before until you cum. Do not let her cum. After you cum, make her suck your dick clean. Keep her close to orgasm, but tease her with it, don't let her cum. Tell you it's up to you when she cums, and then see what she is willing to do for the chance. You could say you want her to lick your ass, but she can only cum if she does a really good job, or whatever. The idea is to give her a task that is hard or humiliating that she will most likely fail at. Once she fails, tell her she doesn't get to cum yet. If she is staying the night, tell her to go to the bed and wait for you with her legs spread, and go about your day, checking in to make sure she is positioned like you say. Use her at night, again with no concern at all to her sexual response, and then let her cum. If she isn't, tell her next time you might let her cum, but that she has to agree to not cum until next time if she wants to sleep with you again.

Something like that is probably what she wants you to do when she teases you. Give her what she wants and then leave her wanting more. Depending on where you live, and your opinion on if she would be into it, you might even hand her her clothes and kick her outside without letting her get dressed first. You get the idea. Feel free to modify to account for your knowledge of what gets her off.

Have fun, man, and tell us about it.


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Edited by tomk (05/15/05 05:39 PM)

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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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Good god, I guess I'm more vanilla than I thought.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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Holy shit, there are some great ideas there! I really appreciate your posts, it's a nice insight into a world I never thought would be so fascinating at first. You're indeed an intelligent person who knows what is doing.

I find interesting that even tho I'm not really into BDSM I sometimes fantasize with dominant behaviours and have even talked about it with my g/f (who BTW, did cut her wraists a lot when she got stressed) but never got to it. Whe get all vanilla-like and then we just don't feel the need for it anymore :tongue:

We talked about rape fantasies and ties, we even got to the stage of deciding on "patito" as the key word...

I think I should talk to her now :grin:
Do you have any advice on how to proceed onto rape fantasies? Just wondering :laugh:

Oh, and 5 :mushroom2: for you my friend!! Rock on!!


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There's no better way to rock out than with your cock out!!

Edited by Deepman (05/15/05 07:45 PM)

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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
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www.owk.com

-ps.

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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: PrisonSong]
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No thanks


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: PrisonSong]
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Interesting....

I'm a "love making" type myself. I've been studying the Kama Sutra, I rally get into extended sensual experiences.

But I will say. There are times when I get good and schwilly and love a heavy rough romp. I appreciate passion marks as much as anyone. I love to really feel the ecstasy of what's happening. But the rough road, while sometimes my experiences are directed that way, are never my initial intention.

I like to do things slow and soft and keep desire at a peak until the experience, well, peak's. Not that i'm apposed to intensity, I actually find this way to be the most intense.

this method is not for everyone, though. If you don't know what you're doing than going slow is going to enhance the embarrassment rather than the ecstasy.

Slow isn't even the right word, though. It' more like being thorough, caring, and gentle. While staying intense. It's like stretching out the joy while showing complete respect. I don't like being rough for the sake of being rough, but sometimes the energy of the moment will go in that direction.

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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
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This post discusses the importance of gradual progression in BDSM play, especially when incorporating rape-type scenes. The author emphasizes that beginners should avoid diving into intense scenes right away, comparing it to using strong substances like LSD before experiencing milder ones like marijuana. They recommend starting with talking to your partner, bondage, and sensation play, such as blindfolding, tickling, and using ice cubes. The key is to ensure the bottom's comfort and safety throughout. As trust builds, the author suggests introducing light pain play, starting with clear communication and gradually increasing intensity. They caution against forcing relaxation, as it may indicate the stimulus isn't intense enough, leading to a cathartic high instead. The author also touches on the euphoric "floating" or "subspace" state experienced by some BDSM practitioners, likening it to psychedelic experiences. Ultimately, they encourage open communication and creative exploration in BDSM play.

I would suggest building up to playing with rape-type scenes over a couple years at least.  Doing a rape scene before you have done other less intense scenes is sort of like doing acid before you have smoked pot, you likely won't be ready for it.

I'd suggest starting by talking to her.  Then, I'd do some bondage.  Maybe, at first, you should just tie her down and get her used to feeling.  Tie her up and use some nice feeling fabrics to stimulate the entirety of her skin.  Blow cold air all over her, tickle her lightly.  One thing that is really effective is to blindfold someone and tell them you are going to drip hot wax on them.  Then, grab an icecube and let the drops go over their skin.  It's fun to see how they react, and it really fucks with the bottom.  Just spend a couple of hours with her tied up and blindfolded touching her skin.  Take your time with it.  After a couple hours, every nerve in her body will be on fire and she will be so much more aware of her sense of touch.  You can use all sorts of stuff, cloth, fur, leather, blankets, etc.  One really cool feeling thing is to take a sheet and put it over her, then slowly pull it off.  It stimulates every nerve on the exposed skin to do this.  Put some clothspins on her nipples for a few minutes or twist them.  Then eat her out for a while or fuck her.  It might be a real headfuck if you spend a couple hours warming up her skin and talking about how you are going to fuck her like she hasn't been fucked before, and then taking her gently and making out with her and then making love to her while she is tied up and on fire from the nerves.  Or, gently making love to her but shove an ice cube up her ass right before you start fucking her.  If you want to keep the energy going, you can keep her tied up all night and do her again in the morning.

When you do BDSM, it's important to be really sure the bottom is comfortable.  If their leg hurts or arm gets sore, your attitude should be "thats certainly not an excuse to let you up yet, lets make that problem better so we can get back to it."  If she is sleeping in bondage and complains, listen to her and find a way to keep her bound but solve the complaint.  If she needs to get up and go to the bathroom, fine, but she doesn't need her hands free or her blindfold off to do that.  In other words, make sure all their needs are being met, but make sure they have no unnessisary freedoms.  If they need to stretch, free one hand at a time and let them, but stay in control. 

After your partner gets comfortable with letting go enough to trust you with bondage, then you can move on to hurting her.  At first, tell her what you are going to do, and then do it.  The important thing with pain and bondage is to be relentless but also allow them plenty of time to process it.  Ametuers should not be beating the shit out of each other.  Tell her you are going to hit her on her ass five times, hard, do it, then let her calm down and come down from it.  Once her breathing slows back down, tell her five more are coming.  If you notice she tenses up, then use fake strokes.  Swing, but do not make contact, then point out how tense she is and order her to relax.  Once she is relaxed, then you give her the next set, and calm her down.  You could increase each set, so it went like 4 hits, calm down, then 6 hits, then calm down, then 10 hits then calm down, then 15, then calm down, then 20, then bring her down.  The hits in the set could build up or the implements used could change i.e. start with hand, then a wooden spoon, then a ping pong paddle.

My belief is that, at least in a certain type of BDSM play, it's all about relaxation.  By continually being jostled between a relaxed state where they are ready to accept pain, humiliation, and whatever else, and a state where they are stuggling helplessly about it, they will become very very relaxed and blissed out.  :thumbup:

Other forms of play have different goals.  Some people (like me) like it when the pain is so bad that relaxation is impossible.  Rather then giving time to relax, relaxation is a sign that the sensory stimulus isn't intense enough, and so the electrodes on the nips or whatever are turned up.  This is more cathartic and less blissful.  In addition, there are types of play where the sub struggles to please the dom, etc.  I do not understand the motivation behind this subset as well, so I can't speak to it very much.  All are fun, but no matter where you want to end up, it's good to start with light bondage and sensation play, then move onto light bondage and learning to relax while accepting uncomfortable stimuli, otherwise the other forms of play are pretty brutal and not fun for anyone.

You should be aware that floating and subspace are two terms BDSM users talk about in regard to the euphoric chemical high your body gives you from doing this.  I think it's every bit as potent as psychedelics or pot.

On a personal note, I became interested in psychedelics and dissociatives after experiencing altered states during BDSM play.

I dunno, I don't like sex with women.  Talk to your partner and find out what they want.  Play around with it.  Let go of all the judeochristo crap engrained in your psyche about sex and be creative with it.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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Me and my girl just do it the normal lovey-dovey type way.

Am I boring?....

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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: marvoman]
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Yup. To me you are. That sort of sex just doesn't appeal to me at all. But, it's more important that you really enjoy what you are doing then that other people approve.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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Quote:
it's more important that you really enjoy what you are doing then that other people approve.



:thumbup: :heart:


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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Wow, that is exactly what I was looking for, so many thanks!! I just talked to her about it and it seems she is willing to try some of your ideas (some others I didn't talk about 'coz I want to surprise her also).

It seems to me that your approach would be the wisest path, and we've been wanting to do some bondage for some time now. I don't want to hurt her in any way of course, so I'll make sure to be very careful while having a taste of the experience. I think that with your ideas it can be a great experience, and a very sensual one.

I find interesting the notion of being tied several hours or even the whole night, I once tied her up for less than an hour and it was great, I can only imagine spending "a couple hours warming up her skin and talking about how you are going to fuck her like she hasn't been fucked before, and then taking her gently and making out with her and then making love to her while she is tied up and on fire from the nerves".

I must leave now, but I thank you SO much, you just might have made our sex lives a lot better (I think she will love it, really) :heart:

Oh, BTW, I tried LSD before I smoked pot :grin:


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
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Be sure to report back with how it went.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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tomk said:
Be sure to report back with how it went.


This has been repeated multiple times.

You really want to hear some storys of rough sex, huh?


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: emptywisdom]
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Yeah, I'm really at a stage where I am going to get turned on by stories of ametuer breeders tieing each other up with neckties and doing mild sensation play in a nervous way.  :rolleyes:

No.  Give me a little credit.  Actually, I am curious to hear how my advice plays so that in the future I could refine that advice to bring happiness to more people.  I'm also curious to hear what other people think of those experiences that haven't tried them that much.

If I wanted to get turned on by breeder rough sex I would watch some videos from www.insex.com, which is above my level, but not by much.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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no offense intended man, I just got a laugh out of it.

I actually appreciate your advice. It's not my style now, but I always like to have some ideas in mind that i've not tried. I'm huge on trying new things when the oportunity presents itself. Most likely I will never try anything precisley as you described, but the idea is in my head, and if this ever seems right for the situation, I'm totally down to go for it. See, for me, I'm gonna get mine, so in sex, it's allways about makeing the female happy. And in my experience, women like you to take your time and be respectfull, show confidence and be generous. I've never gone into an experience when they wanted me to treat them like a, um........, bitch. But If it happens, i'm down to go for it.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: emptywisdom]
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I like to be stabbed with a fork in the neck while the girl fucks my ass with a dildo and she chews my dick til I cum blood.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
I like to be stabbed with a fork in the neck while the girl fucks my ass with a dildo and she chews my dick til I cum blood.


This was an understanding I had about you before you made this post.

:sun:


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: emptywisdom]
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fuck my ass with "the fist"



please? i'll clamp your nipples with my jumper cables while whipping you with my headphone wires.


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: tomk]
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tomk said:
:bitch:


bump for the cry baby


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Re: While we're at it, BDSM [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Lets post pictures and blur out our faces. Even though my Asian hooker can't speaky any english I'm sure she can operate a camera.

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