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What about trading mycellium?
    #4171195 - 05/13/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I am interested in trying to grow some edibles outdoors in suitable beds and was wondering if anyone here that hunts ever collects mycellium (for transplants etc.)? How feasible might it be to try and collect mycellium from shrooms growing wild like Stroparia, Blewitt, or Shaggy Mane and attempt to transplant in a suitable bed? Of course I would never consider damaging wild cultures of the symbiotic shrooms. Thanks--


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: shroomaker]
    #4171316 - 05/13/05 04:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Vendors sell edible cultures, and people trade edible cultures all the time. You can take your own tissue samples, but it's not the easiest thing in the world to take a sterile tissue sample from the wild, and transfer it to agar/grain. Not to say it can't be done, but if your skill level isn't up to par then you're better off buying from a vendor, or trading. This would be a bit better suited in the G&MM forum.


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4171358 - 05/13/05 04:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, I am not real experienced - but pretty familiar from reading and studying (GGMM book and these forums etc.) about the different culture techniques. However, I never read about anyone just transplanting mycellium (from the wild or from trades etc.). I realize that this is a low tech way (and maybe unsuccessful) of getting certain shrooms that will grow in a bed started. However, I read in GGMM about doing this successfully with Strophria and wondered if anyone else has tried for the other shrooms I mentioned?


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: shroomaker]
    #4171387 - 05/13/05 05:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I personally haven't read any stories about simply transferring tissue to an outdoor bed and getting results. Maybe it works with some species, but I'm not aware of this. You have to establish a strong culture, likely grain based, and spawn that to a relatively large food source (bulk) then plant that in designated beds outdoors. It's a common misconception around here that outdoor growing is as easy as transferring some spores/tissue to the ground, and you get shrooms. As far as I'm concerned, outdoor growing has to follow basically the same guidelines as indoor growing, except you don't control the conditions once the bed is established.


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4171600 - 05/13/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I used to live in a more rural setting, and one year I got a small flush of Morels near a dead elm in my yard.. I washed the morels before I ate them, and threw the water that they where washed in back on the dead elm. The next year the flush had about quadrupled in size. Every year I did that, and it kept getting bigger..
Note: the morels started on their own, and for all I know the flushes would've kept getting bigger even w/out me dumping sporeulated water on the dead elm..


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: Kalix]
    #4171610 - 05/13/05 05:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Morel beds are perennial from my experience, the chance of your spores having anything to do with that bed are super low.


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4171707 - 05/13/05 06:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

ive heard of stropharia stems regrowing onto unsterilized woodchip/mulch beds... just cutting them off and putting em in there.. azeruessese and those woodwellers supposedly do the same thing.. even on cardboard.. corrugated cardboard or something..


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4173359 - 05/14/05 03:00 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Someone gave me this set of tools. I think the purpose of it is to get live mycelium from nature. The contact info on the box does not work.







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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: wideweb]
    #4173718 - 05/14/05 07:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

neat!


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Re: What about trading mycellium? [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4174034 - 05/14/05 11:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, so I am concluding then that of the edible mushrooms that can be cultivated in an outdoor bed (via mycellium transplanting), Stropharia is the only one that has any chance of competing agressively enough to establish any kind of colonies?


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