question_for_joo said:

Here's the difference between NIN and Skinny Puppy

Skinny Puppy isn't songs, it's just experimental gothica my simple mind does not undersand.  No verse chorus verse chorus is around to anchor me, so I can't understand it.  It just jumps around like a mascara kid with ADD on speed.  For every 4 minute Skinny Puppy song there'll be like one 15 second part where Ogre or whoever the fuck is the Skinny Puppy 'songwriter' accidently fits the loops together in such a way that is catchy and appealing like real music, but these parts don't last long and then it'll be off into some other weird combo of horror movie sound effects, mumbled vocals, and lowfi drums or some shit.

Nine Inch Nails up to and including the Downward Spiral is master songcrafting with in the industrial, goth, overall flavour.  NIN adds that flavor to their music the same way Madonna adds electronic flavor or Frito-Lay adds cheese flavor.  Most of the songs are catchy and appealing from start to finish, never varying from what I expect, and never challenging me.  Because I am simple minded, I don't notice any cheesiness or repetitiveness.  I won't vouch for the NIN catalog after the Downward Spiral but for the most part Trent's music is far superior to Skinny Puppy, which like I said isn't really music in the limited sense that I can understand it on the first listen.

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See what I mean.  For people who's understanding of music is limited to verse chorus verse form, Trent Renzor is better.  To people who understand music beyond chorus-verse form, Renzor is teh suxors, as they say, and Skinny puppy is the shit. 

Just like to people who can't understand dissonance and harmony beyond a major seventh chord on the subdominant, and don't understand syncopation beyond 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and, Kenny G is better, where people who get 11ths and beyond on any auxillary pitch of the tonic, and understand complex rhythms with overlapping hemiolas, these people might like Sun-Ra better.

Dude.  Renzor sucks as a creative artist.  It's just a fact.  Yes, you can relate to him and his music.  Yes, you understand it and are not overwhelmed.  Thats not cause his music is good, thats because you suck too. 

I mean, it's one thing to say "I like NIN better then Skinny Puppy."  But, to say "NIN is better then skinny puppy" is something else.  NIN sucks.  Get over it.

Metatrad said:

The simple fact that your friend is ignorant enough to bring this up makes a rebuttal not worth the effort.

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That's sort of where I'm at right now. 

SKINNYDOGGY said:

Without skinny puppy = no nin. skinny puppy gave Trent his start and direction. if any one remembers trent just wanted to make dance music but then went on tour with SP then trents music life changed then came Pretty Hate Machine

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tomk said:

I would say this.  "NIN does not copy skinny puppy.  Rather, NIN does to skinny puppy music what kenny G does to jazz.  To say NIN contributes nothing is wrong.  Rather, he takes the good stuff from skinny puppy and contributes his banality to make an inferior product that isn't quite a clone."

Although from the sound of it that wasn't what you were looking for.

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iş agree with ya