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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: kake]
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Man there's a lot of hate in the thread. The United States is in no way a facist regime. My great grandmother was in a concentration camp because she was Jewish. Is anyone here in the states being persecuted to such a degree because of their religious beliefs? That's right no. While I do agree the US does some fucked up stuff comparing this government to that of Nazi Germany is RIDICULOUS!!! If my great granmother, grandmother or even my mother heard some of the things in this thread they would cry. Why? Because they are free to worship hoewever they choose here. Let us not forget what this country was founded on. I am a pacifist and this is the reason I have decided to post the pictures I'm going to post.








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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: kake]
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Here is a funny gif electrode found,
I could think of nowhere else to use it:

Edited by MeatSpace (05/02/05 11:55 AM)

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: i_rage_against]
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i agree with you 100 % on that one. We dont realise how good we have it, how this country came to be. My grandparens lived threw stollins rule of Russia. As man people died under his dictator ship as people died under hitlers. We think the world is so horrible and that our government os so bad, but tell you the truth it is doing a lot better now then governments have before. Some people are never happy and need to complain to make it seem as if they have done something.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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"All the leg work"? The rest of your post was just bad acts in America's past that had nothing to do with what we were discussin, genocide. That's not my fault that you drum up a bunch of extraneous information.


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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: i_rage_against]
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hi IRA
there are US concentration camps right now with many thousands of people being tortured starved, robbed of their human rights as per the geneva convention. and we would be kidding ourselves to not indeed awknowlage, executed.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: MeatSpace]
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no it isnt

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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I_rage_against & Sheik: :thumbup:

That's exactly what I'm saying.  Americans have done horrendous deeds in the past, sure, but to compare it to Nazi or Stalinist regimes is an insult to those who suffered through them.


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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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after what has happened at the detentioncamps i think they cleaned up there act do to being in he eye of the public.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Tao]
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it had evrything to do with genocide, i specifically cited genocide, were you just skimming?
do you not consider the wounded knee massacre genocide?
the enslaving, gelding, and lynching of blacks?
what about the mountain meadow massacre?
how about the forced cristianity of the philipino nationals?
what about the bombing of japan? was destroing a nations ability to conceive normal children for decades a justified action? limiting a peoples ability to conceive and birth viable progeny is genocide.
what do you call genocide?
not recognizing these acts aas genocide is the same as a modern day german feeling the nazis were justified.
the scale is different, but the comparison stands.
taking it as an insult to your family is the reason why it can still happen, because hey, maybe youre country kills a few hundred thousand innocent people for its interests, but at least you're not a nazi.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Tao]
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its part of history and progress and we work every day to becoming more humanitatian. Some shit heads at the camp down in geneva disgraced america with there acts. We did what we could to fix the issue. Its history now. We are progressing and people that keep looking at it like we havnt done shit arnt really looking at all.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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it's not history it's now.
this is where we are, this is what sort of stuff goes on under our noses.
its not pretty but its always easy to think were doing something about it. sorta like how i feel were doing something about aboriginal poverty and culture loss.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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Mitchnast said:
it had evrything to do with genocide, i specifically cited genocide, were you just skimming?
do you not consider the wounded knee massacre genocide?
the enslaving, gelding, and lynching of blacks?
what about the mountain meadow massacre?
how about the forced cristianity of the philipino nationals?
what about the bombing of japan? was destroing a nations ability to conceive normal children for decades a justified action? limiting a peoples ability to conceive and birth viable progeny is genocide.
what do you call genocide?
not recognizing these acts aas genocide is the same as a modern day german feeling the nazis were justified.
the scale is different, but the comparison stands.
taking it as an insult to your family is the reason why it can still happen, because hey, maybe youre country kills a few hundred thousand innocent people for its interests, but at least you're not a nazi.



actually since you mentioned it...it's the spaniards that told all the indigenous filipinos "YOU BETTER BECOME CATHOLICS OR WE'LL KILL YOU ALL!" but of course..the US helped with it later

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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Ok so the captured prisoners/members of the "terror groups" are supposed to be in a five star hotel? We ask em could you please give us some information. What "no" ok well do you need an extra towel? Thats not the way it works.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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also on a related but seperate notion. comparing military actions of the US to military actions of the Nazis is not really nessisary, but it is certainly not rediculous.
a dead tortured starved jew is as bad, NOT WORSE than a dead tortured starved Saudi or Iraqi.
to think otherwise only serves to hold some human life higher than others.
it's not about defending your country, in argument or otherwise.
its about people. and the biggest enemy of people is nations.
like a giant foot stomping on ants. its easy not to feel guilty for ants.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: boO]
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it was the us soldiers that killed the 200000 i was referings to. the point was the US commited genocide,
i could talk all day about the spanish inquisition.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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Its about numbers and hate. We are in there for direct attacks on our country not because we feel they are inferior.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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what terror groups specifically are all the detainees from?
what acts of terrorism did they commit? i was under the impression that jihad entails martyrdom, and islamic terrorism is governed by the doctrine of jihad.

i think youre confusing terrorists with insurgents which are POWs and as such are entitled to certain rights. few of which are honored.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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They are killing in the name of allah arnt they? They are defending those who killed inocent people. And so am i. so i dunno any more.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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"Its about numbers and hate. We are in there for direct attacks on our country not because we feel they are inferior."

what did iraq do to attack the US?
the connections between al qaida and iraq have yet to be proven, or even made slightly credible.

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Re: A M E R I C A - post pics here that you feel resemble the US of A [Re: Mitchnast]
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Mitchnast said:
it had evrything to do with genocide, i specifically cited genocide only in that one part which you glossed over. , were you just skimming?
do you not consider the wounded knee massacre genocide?no it was the gruesome final battle between native americans and indians, we were not looking to exterminate the group of people
the enslaving, gelding, and lynching of blacks? no, the enslavement of blacks, though horrible--in fact one could argue the worst act in history with 400 million being enslaved over the course--was not an act of genocide. furthermore that is no longer anything to do with the government of today who has the civil right amendment in addition to affirmative action policies
what about the mountain meadow massacre? Certainly not 'genocide' and not carried out by the American government
how about the forced cristianity of the philipino nationals? I'm beginning to think you're not understanding the UN definition of genocide that you gave
what about the bombing of japan? That was an act of war against a country who attacked us unprovoked was destroing a nations ability to conceive normal children for decades a justified action? No limiting a peoples ability to conceive and birth viable progeny is genocide.The aftereffect was not deliberate or known
what do you call genocide? Going off of a professor who writes books and journal articles on humanitarian intervention (in favor of doing it more) who just explained it to me a week ago, it is when you are actually trying to eradicate a specific group of people usually in your region
not recognizing these acts aas genocide is the same as a modern day german feeling the nazis were justified. no, its just going with what is interpreted as 'genocide' in international law

taking it as an insult to your family is the reason why it can still happen, because hey, maybe youre country kills a few hundred thousand innocent people for its interests, but at least you're not a nazi. You may like to paint me as a flag waving patriot, but you'd be dead wrong in that assumption




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