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Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow.
    #3966259 - 03/24/05 09:20 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I'm really excited by growing psychoactive herbs etc. To grow something yourself and then reap the benefits in the end, being a part of the whole process just like growing mushrooms.

I am interested so far in growing calea zacatechichi, san pedro cactus, datura stramonium, opium poppy, and artemisia absinthium (wormwood).If anyone has any info on growing these, where the best place to get a hold of seeds or live plants and such, please let me know.

I am also interested in hearing any recommendations on other legal psychoactive plants and herbs; what you like about them, how easy they are to grow, what conditions they require etc. Thanks in advance. :thumbup:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #3966311 - 03/24/05 09:38 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I know for cactus such as san pedro, it is more recommended to grow from cuttings, so getting a live plant would be far more ideal.
Does anyone have any opinions on growing san pedro (Trichocereus Pachanoi) vs peruvian torch (Trichocereus Peruvianus)? :zoom:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #3966409 - 03/24/05 10:03 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I would stay far, far away from datura...anticholinergic properties are much to a risk for the hallucinogenic properties. Any deleriant should be approached with much consideration. Salvia would be an excellent choice and possibly a kratom seedling. Salvia div. is a hardy plant that can take much punishment, and its effects if chosen to use in that way, are profound. Kratom is a excellent stimulant. Though it is technically a tree, you can manage to keep one of manageable size.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #3966527 - 03/24/05 10:37 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Psychotria/mimosa/desmanthus and cacti are very useful plants which are nice to grow, propagate and spread around. And obviously consume some of the fruits :wink:

Kratom and salvia are also very interesting plants, definitely worth getting them as they may be illegalized in the future.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: esin]
    #3966541 - 03/24/05 10:41 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

wild dagga

morning glory/haiwian baby woodrose

i like those two, both easy to grow..


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JCoke]
    #3967535 - 03/25/05 03:29 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the tips guys, and I'll look into these other plants you've mentioned. Also, if you'd like to tell me more about what you know of and your own experiences with these plants that'd be greatly appreciated.

Datura I know is a very dangerous plant to mess with, if I ever did use it, it would be with the most care and preparation that could be put into it. Away from civilization and done in ceremonial form. I've grown a Datura called "Angel's Trumpet", I'm not sure which species this fits into though. With Datura it is more about growing this amazing plant for it's rich history than ever thinking about ingesting anything from it.

Edit: I tried posting some pictures of Datura Stramonium and Datura Inoxia, but I don't think it worked... Anyways, I think the Angel's Trumpet I grew was Datura Inoxia, I found it at a local garden center, and the name Datura made me have to buy it and grow it, it bloomed huge beautiful flowers.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #3967606 - 03/25/05 05:09 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Kratom, salvia, b caapi, psychtria viridis, mimosa hostilis, mimosa pudica, any cacti from seed is fun, hawaiin baby rosewood is easy to grow, or some poppies.

just goole the species before growing with germination (plant or cacti name) for help with growing that kind of plant.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3968302 - 03/25/05 12:56 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

the list goes on and on grow them all but easiest to grow are morning glories and African Lion's Tail aka wild dagga.  What Ive read is Peruvians are better then San Pedro stick with cuttings unless u don't mind growing for several years like me.  I found poppy to be hard to get past seedling stage very high germination rate.  It all depends on ur budget and time and effort u want to put into it. GL :thumbup:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3968306 - 03/25/05 12:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Poppies dont like to be transplated, scater them early in the season ona weed free plot and watch em grow.

The whole mesc contenet between peruivians and pedro is skeptical.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3969685 - 03/25/05 07:14 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

This article compares the mescaline content of San Pedro(T. pachanoi) vs Peruvian Torch(T. peruvianus)

According to it, San Pedro is on average better for mesc content, as Peruvians can possibly have very minimal. I've also read though that Peruvians grow faster, and one of the highest rated mesc in a cacti found was Peruvian. However I'd sooner have a cacti that I know will have at least some mescaline. Do any of you keep your cacti growing year after year? I live in the north, so growing is best through spring and summer, but I'd like to grow it indoors in the winter, do any of you have success doing this?

Fluxburn,
You say cacti are fun to grow from seed, is that because it's difficult and challenging, or have you had success with it?


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #3969722 - 03/25/05 07:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

YEah ggrow em all year, rather put them in a cold above 40 degree place with minimal light and they will rest up and go dormant till spring time. No water needed during the dormant state. But you can also place them in a grow room if you bring them in before it cools to much outside.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3971010 - 03/26/05 01:35 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Peruvians more expensive but very cool sharp poky spines that turn on chicks......no not really, but I think they are awesome. I got 1- Peruvian, 3 short spined Peruvians, 6- Pedro's, 5 bridgesii, 1 spachianus and 100 seeds of Peruvians i want to plant soon. We also had a poll here and so far Peruvians were the best in content. But also heard the Bridgesii were also good but slower growing. can't give any of my experiences with content cause I find pleasure in growing them and plus i can't hurt my babies....lol


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3971536 - 03/26/05 07:11 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Cool. Good advice. I hear heimia salicifolia (sunopener) is a good one too. Something I'd really like to grow. Only legal herb I'm growing is actually illegal I just realized. hahahaha. I have one healthy seedling of catha edulis. HEHE. Just as illegal as weed.

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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: GoaM]
    #4025005 - 04/07/05 07:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys.

Just a note, that the Datura I grew was actually this.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4025080 - 04/07/05 08:10 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Wow I just found a great site for any Canadians, http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_88/proid_212
I can actually buy live peyote in Canada wow! And Peruvian Torch hybrid cuttings, said to contain double the alkaloid cotent.
http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_88/proid_217

Fuck yeah! :eek:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4031911 - 04/08/05 07:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

JaguarWarrior?s Garden

Seeds on the way:
1)Calea zacatechichi ?Dream Herb?
2)Datura Stamonium ?Thorn apple?
3)Leonitus Leonorus "Wild Dagga"
4)Heimia Salicifolia ?Sun Opener? Sinicuichi
5)Lepidium Peruvianum ?Maca Yellow?
6)Mimosa Hostilis "Jurema"
7)Peganum Harmala "Syrian Rue"

Live plants soon to be acquired:
8)Lophophora Williamsii "Peyote"
9)Trichocereus Peruvianus "Peruvian Torch" hybrid Cuttings

Other plants I'm looking into acquiring:
10)Mitragyna Speciosa "Kratom"
11)Argyreia Nervosa "Hawaiian Baby Woodrose"
12)Banisteriopsis Caapi
13)Desmanthus Illinoensis
14)Psychotria Viridis
15)Salvia Divinorum

If anyone can post/link growing and/or cultivating tips for any of these or other psychoactive plants that'd be great, it be nice to have a good knowledge base for this stuff on the forum for those looking for it.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4047923 - 04/12/05 11:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hawaiin baby wood rose are hard to grow unless you live in hawaii or have a greenhouse with a heater. They bloom in around january. Good luck.


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: stevo]
    #4048229 - 04/13/05 01:16 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Damn, I already ordered some. :cussing:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4048376 - 04/13/05 01:50 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sure you'll find some use for them :smile:


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Re: Recommended legal psychoactive plants to grow. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4049017 - 04/13/05 05:26 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Wow I envy you man.


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