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OfflineTomatadunothing
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My history teacher is a jackass
    #3916859 - 03/14/05 05:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So for our first test, we were required to write an essay at home. I followed his directions to the letter, stated and supported my opinions with evidence from the lectures as well as the text, and the punk ass bitch failed me. What do I do? I spent way too much time writing that paper to fail it. Why should I have to do a bunch of his silly ass extra credit assignments to bring my grade up when I honestly feel I turned in an A paper? At least a B from some hard ass even. What a punk.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3916867 - 03/14/05 05:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Perhaps you should take it up with the dean?

I've always wanted to say that... :sun:


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: slowburner]
    #3917250 - 03/14/05 06:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

See, here's the thing. I still have to finish up the class, and I don't want to get on his shit list. I'm just trying to figure out weather I should say something to him or just bend over, give him what he wants, and do the stupid fucking extra credit work, because that's obviously why he gave everyone in the class shit grades.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3918322 - 03/14/05 11:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

believe it or not, teachers are not there to fail students. In fact, either extreme in grading (everyone failing or everyone gettings As) is frowned upon by their bosses.

your paper probably sucked.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Vvellum]
    #3918364 - 03/14/05 11:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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bi0 said:
believe it or not, teachers are not there to fail students. In fact, either extreme in grading (everyone failing or everyone gettings As) is frowned upon by their bosses.

your paper probably sucked.




I disagree, my school has old crusty professors that fail hoards of classes just for the fun of doing it because A) They have higher tenure, and no one can touch them and they know it, and B) They enjoy doing such things.

There are professors out there that don't deserve to flip burgers, seriously.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3918406 - 03/14/05 11:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Go talk to him (or her) and ask them why they gave you the grade you got. Don't be as asshole or anything and you'll be ok.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Holydiver]
    #3918433 - 03/14/05 11:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I find it hard to believe that a professor with tenure at a legitimate university simply fails people for entertainment. Students fail because they do not understand the course and/or do not fulfill expectations. Professors can have high expectations that are difficult to meet, of course, but "failing-students-as-entertainment" is just not common. why would a professor put their entire, long teaching careers at such a noticable risk (grading is tracked by their superiors)?


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Holydiver]
    #3918488 - 03/14/05 11:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I disagree, my school has old crusty professors that fail hoards of classes just for the fun of doing it because A) They have higher tenure, and no one can touch them and they know it, and B) They enjoy doing such things.




I dont believe this. You probably didnt do the work. Or you did it in a substandard manner.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3918631 - 03/15/05 12:20 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I had a Philosophy professor who, on my first paper, said she wouldn't even give me a grade. Supposedly she couldn't understand it, couldn't grade it, had no idea what I was talking about.

I thought it was the best thing I've ever written! And everyone I let read it said they were really impressed.

I even sent it to another Philosophy professor who I already had for a course, and he said it was a great paper to.. yet this biotch wouldn't even grade it.

please, no one take this the wrong way, but this professor happens to be female, and she really loves to emphasize gender issues and loves going off on these sort of tangents always related to men oppressing women.. what i wrote about probably didn't interest her, and it mentioned nothing about men oppressing women.. and what do i get? NO GRADE! wtf

and nobody flame me! i love women, they are equal to men, yet men and women have some inherent differences.. let's all just get along, yadda etc.

anyways, Tomatadunothing, i feel your pain. i would recommend bending over for your professor.. i have found the best thing for school is to do what you are supposed to and get out asap! save the crusade for later when it counts.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: endokrin]
    #3920593 - 03/15/05 12:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

bio- I'm not at some recognized university. I'm at a shitty local 2 year college. Say whatever you want. I know in my heart that I spent a solid 4 hours in the computer lab on campus writing and revising this paper, which is longer than I've ever spent writing a paper at this school, and I have a 3.6 gpa at this school.

He announced the class average was 68. Right after he said that, he started talking about how it's such a rarity for him to get a good paper, then he started telling us about extra credit opportunities that will take entire days out of my schedule. The guy's head is over inflated. He's putting the class in a position where if we want a good grade in his class, we have to go do a heap of extra credit for him. Fuck it. I'm gonna do all his stupid ass extra credit and hopee I can still pull an A out of this class.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3920628 - 03/15/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

did you write it in word? can we get a copy and paste?


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Phychotron]
    #3920680 - 03/15/05 01:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

great idea brother!


shine the motherfucking on!


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: goobler]
    #3922276 - 03/15/05 08:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

OK the assignment was to write a persuasive essay that would persuade a fictitious character(Mr. James) make up his mind as to which political party he should allign himself as a farmer and a recent immigrant in the U.S.

You asked for it, Phychotron

We had to give 2 positive points about the party that we were supporting, but no specific length was given.

A hem

As citizens of a republic, the ideas that the people oppose or support through their vote will have an outcome on the way that our nation as a whole progresses into the future. A person should weigh their political decisions heavily since they ultimately affect our every day life. Generally, people align themselves with one of two major ideologies in America, which are the commercial tradition and the agrarian tradition. If Mr. James wants America to become an outstanding nation among nations, he should support the agrarian tradition.
As a farmer in America, Mr. James can certainly understand the positive economic influence that the exporting of tobacco and cotton has generated. America is a great land, and the cotton industry continues to expand after Eli Whitney?s invention of the cotton gin in April 1793. Three years before Whitney?s invention, the U.S. exported 15 million pounds of cotton. Just seven years after Whitney?s invention, the U.S. exportation of cotton has climbed all the way to 93 million pounds of cotton. In less than 10 years, cotton has become a major cash crop for the United States as a result of Eli Whitney?s invention.
The U.S. is still growing geographically, as well as economically, as demonstrated by our last president, Andrew Jackson, and his aggressive Indian removal policy. If we are to become a greater global trading power, we will need more land to farm, and agrarian oriented politicians are pushing towards further western expansion westward.
This policy of western expansion benefits people like Mr. James, the virtuous yeoman, since there will be more farmable land as a result of expansion. The agrarian tradition entails that this class of people is the backbone of the American economy, and without this class of people, America would be severely impaired in their ability to conduct international trade. This is why the agrarian political tradition is truly the political tradition of the people of America, not just the elite upper class.
A great historic example of the western expansion that will benefit the virtuous yeoman is the Louisiana Purchase, which happened on April 30th, 1803 under former President Thomas Jefferson at the hands of Robert Livingston and James Monroe. The Louisiana Purchase acquired an area larger than Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal combined.
The greater our sum of recourses, the greater our gross national product (the sum of all things a nation produces and a meter of economic stability) has the potential to be. Land is one resource that will become a limiting factor on our agricultural production abilities.
Commercialists, who support manufacturing, wish to dam streams to generate power, flooding useable farm land in the process. The chemical byproducts of manufacturing are not disposed of in a safe fashion. The water pollution that factories generate makes water unusable for sustaining crops with. It is not a very wise decision to endanger what has become a cornerstone of our economy, the cotton industry, with pollution generating factories that could kill cotton crops, or at least, affect the yields.
If Mr. James chooses to align himself with the agrarian tradition, he will see the further expansion of America. America will become the primary producer of cotton globally, and the United States will become an even greater nation amongst nations.

BTW I don't need a bunch of pseudo intellectual assholes tearing my paper to shreads, so if you don't have something constructive to say, I don't need to hear it. I got enough flack from my history teacher about it already.


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Re: My history teacher is a jackass [Re: Vvellum]
    #3922548 - 03/15/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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bi0 said:
believe it or not, teachers are not there to fail students. In fact, either extreme in grading (everyone failing or everyone gettings As) is frowned upon by their bosses.

your paper probably sucked.




Edited by lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl (03/16/05 01:09 PM)


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I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #3922935 - 03/15/05 10:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

My history teacher is the kind of guy that Lary Elder would spend at least a half hour straight admonishing him. He dedicated the first unit of the class towards what he called,"Giving us a feeling for what it was like to be a slave"

OK not trying to be insensitive, but hasn't everyone seen roots or amistad? We know slaves got treated like shit, and that slavery is morally wrong. Why on earth would you spend half of a semester beating a dead horse? He gives me the feeling that he thinks white America owes him something since his ancestors were stolen from Africa.

You know what I think? I think I'm on the same terms with my ancestors that came to America as he is with his. I don't know them. I never met them. I do not now, nor have I ever had any control over their actions. Why should I feel bad about something that I had no part in? Lincoln freed the slaves and gave them 40 acres and a mule. The civil rights movement legally protected the rights of minorities 40 years ago, so shut the fuck up and quit opressing yourself, you lazy ass reperation proponent. Go hang out with Jessie Jackson and collect ODB's wellfare check after you park your paper plate bmw down the street.

There's a good chance he'll piss me off before the end of the semester, and I'll subject him to a similar rant. As much as the guy claims to be a proponent of equality, he sure does like to harp on the past alot. He doesn't really seem to realize that there's only one race, and that's the human race.

I got a feeling that this will not be a popular post around here.


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Re: I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3922956 - 03/15/05 10:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

If he wanted you to persuade him to choose between the two political parties, wouldn't you need to have persuaded him to choose between the republicans and the democrats?

It seems like you're tossing in various bits of historical trivia instead of arguing your point. I don't mean to be a "pseudo intellectual asshole", I'm just trying to point out why he might not have liked your essay.


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Re: I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3923055 - 03/15/05 10:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Your teacher may be a jackass (and plenty of them are), but he determines your grade. Many profs will hold a grudge against somebody who disagrees with them in class, or even in papers. A minority like people who argue against them. Don't go off on your teacher just because you disagree with him or don't like him; it'll probably hurt your grade.

School is about getting grades, not expressing your views or personality.

In any case, that essay isn't very good. I don't know what kind of extra credit he wants, but he might have something to teach you.


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Re: I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: phi1618]
    #3923331 - 03/15/05 11:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The essay was supposed to persuading an immigrant in 1840, not modern day, so this was prior to Democrats and Republicans. Forgot to mention that part.

I was using the historic bits of trivia to support my argument that "Mr. James" should follow the agrarian tradition.

So what would have made my writing better?

BTW the reason I am bitter about the extra credit assignments is because he uses extra credit as a way for him to skirt responsibility with various clubs and organizations that he is supposed to be heading up on campus. For example, we have to volunteer to go help the multi cultural club or assist in a tour for elementary school kids that he choreographs. Not difficult tasks, but why should I be forced to do this stupid bullshit? I'll keep my pie hole shut in class and be his little yes man bitch for the rest of the semester for my grade, because that's the only way I can think of to get an A in his class, but I really resent the man for putting most of the class in that position if they want to succeed.


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Re: I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3923368 - 03/15/05 11:55 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

As someone with a bachelors of history from a pretty good school, I must say that your paper was not an entirely accurate reflection of the 19th century and its political spectrum. Historical facts aside, your grammatical mechanics and your "Mr. James" construct simply makes for awkward reading. I would give you a D or C. I do not mean to give you shit - I just dont think you are entitled to an A. Dont get all angry here - go talk to the professor during his/her office hours.


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Re: I don't think this will be a popular post, but what the hell. [Re: Vvellum]
    #3924845 - 03/16/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Not even the hardass thinks I deserved to fail, though. The essay was writtren to persuade "Mr. James". That was the assignment. Are there any big things that I could have done that would make my writing less "awkward" to read?


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