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If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all?
    #3784239 - 02/15/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Basically I've just been wondering about something. If a person continuously fucks up and does something wrong, should he or she take the clue that maybe they're not meant to continue doing that something...


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784247 - 02/15/05 06:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Guess it depends on what that something is. For example, if your friends juggles knives and keeps cutting parts of their body off then maybe they should quit, but if they fall every time they walk that doesn't necessarily mean they should stop walking. I'd like to give better advice but your post was pretty vague sorry.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784250 - 02/15/05 06:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

As long as it doesn't hurt others and the person is having fun fucking up, I wouldn't care about 'meant to continue' or not.

Can you give an example?  :rolleyes:


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784251 - 02/15/05 06:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You gotta fuck up a few times to learn anything, unless your making a bomb or something...


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784255 - 02/15/05 06:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on what it is... Sometimes, yes, it is time to stop. But generally, "if you don't at first succeed, try try again", repeat as necessary, and eventually (in theory) you will get it.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784274 - 02/15/05 06:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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If a person continuously fucks up and does something wrong, should he or she take the clue




...they often won't get the clue if they keep fucking up.I've known people who had no clue that they were seriously rude and arrogant.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: Annom]
    #3784293 - 02/15/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Annom said:
As long as it doesn't hurt others and the person is having fun fucking up, I wouldn't care about 'meant to continue' or not.

Can you give an example?  :rolleyes:




Yeah, sorry for being vague.  I think I'm actually talking about self-sabotage here.  When people purposely try to screw themselves up so that they end up failing at something to perhaps meet their own low expectations of themselves.  If they can't get past the sabtoging behavior, then are they just meant not to do what they were tryiing to do...sorry, I guess this doesn't make sense.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784305 - 02/15/05 06:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It makes pretty good sense to me. I have a real problem with self-sabotage. I think the first step to getting over it is to heavily rewire your self-image.. and how does one do that? Change the things you do. Change your atmosphere.

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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: lukeboots]
    #3784313 - 02/15/05 06:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I am trying to figure out my path in life...the direction I need to take, but I keep fucking it up!! I sabotage myself all the time. I am starting to think I need professional help if I am ever going to "make it." I need to stop this behavior because it's ruining things.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784328 - 02/15/05 06:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I dont listen to people when they tell me how to do it, I do it I fuck up and thats how I learn. At mine and their expence yes, but im a hands on learner


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784342 - 02/15/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm the same place as you. I have a serious problem with fucking up finances..like, fucking myself right into the ground. I lost $4000 in three days last year with nothing to show for it. I sabotage myself all the time. It's like I want these things to happen to me subconsciously.

And I, like you, have no set path in life right now. Maybe you just need to relax and let life's path come to you.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784390 - 02/15/05 06:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think you should get to know why you sabotage yourself all the time. That is easier said than done, but you have to know why you do something to change it.

Are you (unconscious) asking for attention by fucking up over and over again? Don't take this personal. It's not my diagnosis :smile: I'm just thinking about a common explanation.

Edit: are you a perfectionist?


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: Annom]
    #3784404 - 02/15/05 06:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think I do it because it's easier to fail then to succeed at something.  It's like I'm scared of any success for myself and I keep fucking it up. 

-thanks  :heart:


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3784449 - 02/15/05 06:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm going to bed. Take some time to think about it and try to stay positive  :smile: You are a wonderful person!

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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3785053 - 02/15/05 08:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Try to sabotage your sabotaging behaviour.

Try hard to fail 100% without doing anything right. I'm shure you won't make it.  :tongue:


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: Sterile]
    #3785122 - 02/15/05 08:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Try to sabotage your sabotaging behaviour.

Try hard to fail 100% without doing anything right. I'm shure you won't make it.  :tongue:




That may be a good strategy at this point, heh.  :smile:


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3785148 - 02/15/05 08:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ha, this sounds kind of familiar. I used to fuck up all the time, and I think I was doing it on purpose cause it's easy to blame yourself for "having problems" and fucking up "isn't your fault" but it was, and that is obvious now. For some reason, after getting caught with ecstasy by my parents, I don't feel that way anymore. I study now, and I have a good time. Listening to some good techno right now, generally feeling alright. I'm prepared for my Calc II test for the first time in a year (2nd attempt at Calc II). Things just change and they don't make sense, it'll come. Just don't completely give up like my other friends did. I had some low times at college but when push came to shove I studied instead of smoking alot of pot and playing Counter-Strike.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3785345 - 02/15/05 09:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

All it means is that you fucked up a bunch before. If you really want to do it, keep trying. The worst that happens is you don't succeed, which you haven't done yet anyways.


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Re: If someone continously does something wrong, does that mean they not meant to do it at all? [Re: MOTH]
    #3785539 - 02/15/05 10:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

when i was in juvi/bootcamp, they had a system wher you earned ranks, and when you finished the ranking system you got out.
So if you could go a whole month without getting an "incident report" any kind of real trouble, than you moved up a rank, moving closer to release.
Well for some reason that i never could figure out, every 28th, day or so, i would get an incident report. Basicly setting me back an entire month.
I could have gotten out in 5 months, but it took me over 8.
I think it was a coincedence, because i of course wanted to be free, and wasn't intending to get in trouble, it just kind of happened.
But my probation officer was convinced that it was a sub-contious need to self destruct... witch kind of fit my pattern at the time....

Don't sweat it to much, just keep your sights on freedom, and you'll get there some day.


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