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 auto59009
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 TMC induced paranoia 
#357677 - 07/19/01 09:33 PM (24 years, 5 days ago) |
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i recently purchased a copy of stamets/chilton's TMC, and perusal of the parasitic infections (moulds, bacterial, etc) chapter has been causing me some extreme paranoia
a tub terrarium with perlite for humidity and fanning for air exchange has some cub trays in it. some trays often develop fruits with maybe one or two brown splotches every now and again... i figured it was like a wetspot from too much humidity or something similar and otherwise normal... now TMC has me thinking it is bacterial infection! plus the occasional striping of stems i get after recasing (figured this was kinda normal to) is also causing concern...
but by far the biggest worry is the tray or two that developed COMPLETELY normal looking fruits (with the exception of slightly higher than normal mycellium climbing the stem from the base) except that they are hollow! now like i said, everything LOOKS 100%... this would have gone unnoticed just by looking... and to make matters worse the mycellium at the base turns sort of powdery as the fruits dry...
i am now completely paranoid about wasting fruits (despite the fact that tmc lists the suspects as non pathonogenic in humans...) still freaks me out...
any fairly competent mycologists out there know if this is a serious problem? like i said, it is recent and isolated... casings and fruits show no other probs than those mentioned above... should these fruits be consumed or not?
any help would be very much appreciated, so thanks in advance!
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Re: TMC induced paranoia [Re: auto59009]
#357990 - 07/20/01 07:51 PM (24 years, 4 days ago) |
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Re: TMC induced paranoia [Re: auto59009]
#358151 - 07/21/01 03:17 AM (24 years, 4 days ago) |
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> COMPLETELY normal looking fruits ... except that they are hollow!
The whole fruits or only the stems? Hollow stems are strain dependant.
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kickme.to/mushroomsEdited by Anno on 07/21/01 04:22 AM.
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Re: TMC induced paranoia [Re: Anno]
#358192 - 07/21/01 07:58 AM (24 years, 4 days ago) |
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hey THANK YOU ANNO! a reply finally 
it is only SOME stems of SOME mushrooms... otherwise completely normal in appearance... when you say strain, do you mean "strain" or "race"? other mushrooms from the very same casing often had solid stems... just a few (usually second flush +) mushrooms have these hollow stems...
also, in many photo's i see mycellium climbing up the stems which is quite normal for a high humidity environment, but how would you describe the texture of this mycellium when it dries anno?
thanks for your help by the way! i am a big fan!!!
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Re: TMC induced paranoia [Re: auto59009]
#358849 - 07/22/01 03:48 PM (24 years, 2 days ago) |
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I wouldn't worry about it too much if everything looks healthy. I've had some with hollow stems, mainly I judge by appearance and texture(firm - not mushy). The mycelium crawls up the base of the stems on some of mine but usually after I harvest I trim the base of each stem to remove bits of casing, etc. so I couldn't tell you about the texture after drying. Some of the descriptions of contams in TMC will make you paranoid but trusting your common sense will overcome this. If your ever in doubt about the condition of a mushroom- better to throw it out than risk getting sick - you can always grow more!!
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hey thanks man... everything looks good and im guessing it is natural... thanks for your help!
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Re: TMC induced paranoia [Re: auto59009]
#359501 - 07/23/01 03:58 PM (24 years, 1 day ago) |
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sup auto,
i've had experiences with hollow stems and mycelium fuzz running up the bottom of the stems. what can i tell ya? i ate em all =). had many great trips hahah. i figured that they're hollow from not enough moisture...or not enough nutrients. nonetheless, still tripped fine off of some mushroom flavored tea =).
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auto59009
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well they were all third flush so that might explain the nutrient prob? thanks for ur help!
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