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 dmc_
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 Soak necessary? 
#3438944 - 12/02/04 05:40 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any experience on not soaking your grains prior to simmering/PC, rather rinsing and simmering?
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 Psychoslut
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: dmc_]
#3438955 - 12/02/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recommend you do the soak if at all possible. It germinates the bacterial spores, so they are easily killed in the PC. If you have to not soak. You can put the grains in your PC with 2 inches of water over it and PC them @ 15psi for a half hour. Then just drain, rinse, and load into jars. But you have a better chance of contam that way.
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djred
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3438999 - 12/02/04 05:54 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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i soaked my wbs for about hour or 2 then simmered for a half hour almost a light boil..going on day 5 with my jars haven't checked them out yet..my temps are staying nice.around 85
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dog
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: dmc_]
#3439373 - 12/02/04 07:10 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMO a minimum 24 hour soak is essential. It's the simmering that can be skipped. When I get the initiative I'll write a tek detailing my method.
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djred
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: dog]
#3439525 - 12/02/04 07:38 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey dog how long doe sit take wbs to colonize? around 2 weeks i guess with just ordinary spore injection?
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hyphae
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: dog]
#3439559 - 12/02/04 07:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: hyphae]
#3439586 - 12/02/04 07:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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kool thanxs hyphae..
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djred
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: djred]
#3440261 - 12/02/04 10:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok i read the wbs tek ?'s.. i think i might run into problems cause i didn't really let my wbs soak over night..maybe hour or 2..but i simmered lightly they seem ok..i took my tape of the holes so they can breath..i don't have any polly fill but the holes are only syringe ones small..maybe i should do some oust in the container..sinc ei had it open tonight.? well im not going to sweat contam's i had the exact jar set up with my karo and didn't get any..going on 2 weeks.no growth but not contams.
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djred
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: djred]
#3440269 - 12/02/04 10:23 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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i know noob teks..not trying to short cut..just lak of extra $
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agar
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: dmc_]
#3440356 - 12/02/04 10:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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18 / 24 hour soak is a must do thing. Long a soak as possible, so long as WBS doesnt ferment (smell very badly), sprout,or rot is best. No simmer needed.
If you have some aged / leached / steer / horse manure around, either brew some into tea, or add softball size handfull into a nylon stocking (doubled up - several times)& add cup of strained tea, or use nylon stocking bag - like tea bag & leave it in the soak & stir halfway through soak.
Adds significan N to soak water, which WBS absorbs & myc loves.
You will get bigger better - everything.
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us3fu1idi0t
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Re: Soak necessary? [Re: agar]
#3440376 - 12/02/04 10:55 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Soaking allows the endospores to germinate and the PCing kills them off easier if this happens. Mainly want to watch out for bacillius, which is deadly to humans. Just another step in being careful and sterile. Don't want to screw your grow up, let alone eat something that might harm you in the end.
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