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 Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws 
#3422453 - 11/29/04 09:18 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws
"...Besides California, nine other states allow people to use marijuana if their doctors agree: Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Arizona also has a law permitting marijuana prescriptions, but no active program.
After hearing the arguments, the Supreme Court will consider whether the federal law that bans marijuana possession can be enforced in those states...."
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 Fucknuckle
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 Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ]
#3422488 - 11/29/04 09:37 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is true that Pot has it's medical reasons.
But the real reasons to make pot legal are far different then medical.
How about all the reasons for Hemp fuels? And other things?
The law makers of this country see right thru this. They know the real reasons.
To get High
To compete with Fuels
Those are the reason people should be fighting these crap laws.
I get disturbed when I read shit saying " Passing laws for legal pot use for medicial reason are the first step to legal get highs"
As a group people, Please try to say the real deal.
Nothing personal. But I think that we should just say it like it is. I know there are some saying so but not enough
Our counrty would be very very much better off with a legal and taxed POT market.
But good luck at the Surpreme court. But I think they will shoot it down only because they don't like to be tricked
Besides all those states can not make laws that break National laws. Those states have made illegal laws and that will be exactly what the Supreme Court will say.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422644 - 11/29/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fucknuckle said:
Our counrty would be very very much better off with a legal and taxed POT market.
in one thread you flame potheads and in this one you endorse it...
with gods direction no doubt...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3422447/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD
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Fucknuckle
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ricyjo]
#3422654 - 11/29/04 10:44 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Excuse me?
You should not talk from your...........
I don't not flame Pot heads
I am a pot head
But I am a pot head who gets things done
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422665 - 11/29/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im not a pot head.
I get things done.
and I smoke RECREATIONALLY.
I think what you are trying to say is..
it hurts you to see lazy pot heads because they don't do anything productive.
You are destined to become a motivational speaker.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422672 - 11/29/04 10:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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i see your point though..
a lot of do nothing pot heads suck.
but whats worse..
is a lot of do nothing pot heads that drive escalades...
arghhh!!!
hey jealousy!
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Fucknuckle
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ricyjo]
#3422676 - 11/29/04 10:54 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ricyjo said:
[in one thread you flame potheads and in this one you endorse it...
And I just noticed you got it all wrong anyway.
While I may get down on stoners who do nothing but get high and complain about the world around then and do nothing but get high.
I fully support the legalization of POT. Even if I did not smoke weed
So .............Flaming lazy potheads and endorsing legal weed are very different things 
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422687 - 11/29/04 10:58 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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> It is true that Pot has it's medical reasons.
Which negates it status as schedule-1. Even cocaine isn't schedule-1.
> But the real reasons to make pot legal are far different then medical.
Very true.
> I get disturbed when I read shit saying " Passing laws for legal pot use for medicial reason are the first step to legal get highs"
I agree 100%. I hate seeing people that want to smoke legally using the medicinal arguement. I don't want to smoke because I am sick and need to, I want to smoke because nobody has the right to tell me what I can or cannot put into my body.
> Our counrty would be very very much better off with a legal and taxed POT market.
Don't stop at cannabis, legalize everything (for adults). I don't need somebody deciding what is safe or not to put into my body, or when it is ok or not to have sex, or what time I need to go to bed at night, or what church I should attend, or what books I can read, or ...
> Good luck at the Surpreme court. But I think they will shoot it down...
I have been surprised at some of the rulings of late. Maybe, maybe not... time will tell.
> Besides all those states can not make laws that break National laws.
Other way around.
> Those states have made illegal laws and that will be exactly what the Supreme Court will say.
There are no illegal laws, only unconstitional laws.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422690 - 11/29/04 10:58 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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this case will be decided within days..and by a unanimous vote in favour of bush...otherwise..the SCOTUS would simply have dismissed the case...
EDIT ..and i should also add that the parliamentry structure in congress makes it impossible to change the law there too...
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Edited by Annapurna1 (11/29/04 11:08 AM)
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ricyjo]
#3422694 - 11/29/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ricyjo said:
You are destined to become a motivational speaker.
Thanks and yes I have made some cash doing exactly that. I also have spoken to thousands of people for free. I have been having a very strange life full of Motivational talks.
Strange as it may sound I was once a Ordained Prophet in the Assembly of God church.
I also have been a spokesman for the homeless of the Detroit area and was responsible for starting a homeless shelter in another Michigan city
And I am involved with several political agendas
I just wish people who used drugs often would stand up and be heard. 
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3422698 - 11/29/04 11:02 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I havnt smoked pot in a LONG time..
Im no pot head, Im a Medical Marijuana Advocate.
As for the debate on fuel, textiles and oils... Blah, their are FAR better plants suitable for Biofuel/biomass production. Theirs already cut and gathering systems in place in every major city and suburb in the US but no fuel production system is being developed..
Every roadway and highway in the US gets mowed often. If all these trimmings were collected and converted to fuel, their would be enough to fuel every state and federal vehicle in the US..
Thats enough of that though.. The reason is NOT just to get high.. Youve never met someone who has a true medical need have you? Probably never met any of the professionals working on the legalization projects..
Sure most of the footwork is done by pot smoking young adults but the true fight is done by doctors and lawyers who know what good this drug can do for millions..
Shame on you.
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Edited by GabbaDj (11/29/04 11:03 AM)
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ricyjo]
#3422708 - 11/29/04 11:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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>> it hurts you to see lazy pot heads because they don't do anything productive.
that raises an interesting ?...until 2003..we had the opportunity to go public with our case the same way the gays did..and we might have won had we done so...but we didnt use that opportunity and now its too late...
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: GabbaDj]
#3422747 - 11/29/04 11:18 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have made a mistake
Medical Pot.
I think it is a very good reason
Important but, I think that all the focus on the Medical reason is foolish. And will backfire. The Goverenment will always say that the real reason are the "GET HIGH THING" And I think that may be true to a certian degree.
The bigger picture is the real truth.
And getting high is a very good reason to make it legal.
Who are they to say what I can put into my body 
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: GabbaDj]
#3423526 - 11/29/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am a former medical cannabis user. The medical argument is as true as the recreational argument.
We have to fight both battles, both are equally important.
http://www.mpp.org/trials
Send a quick message to your senators. We have a bill in the house AND senate now to give medical patients an affirmative defense. Progress is being made, but you have to spread the word on the internet! Get this link around, get all the information around!
We can all agree that the Federal government is slighty out of control. This case means alot to me. But even if the states rights argument fails, we still have congress and the state legislators to turn to. Let's do this!
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ]
#3423651 - 11/29/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe a libertarian, or someone with good knowledge of the Constitution, can shed some light on the feds' argument.
From what I've read, they're going to argue that medical marijuana should be banned under federal jurisdiction because it falls under interstate trade. They go on to say that this is true because medical pot could easily be turned around and sold as illegal pot on the street and be transported between states. So, they claim, it can't be regulated by th FDA as proper drugs could, and therefore, should be eliminated entirely. That's what I've heard. Seems kinda flimsy to me.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: Gijith]
#3424870 - 11/29/04 07:38 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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"medical pot could easily be turned around and sold as illegal pot on the street and be transported between states"
Isn't this true for any perscription drug?
I would love to see it pass. Maybe the reason why pot is medicinal is because getting high is good for you in moderation. I would love to be able to get a persciption.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: shroomydan]
#3424946 - 11/29/04 07:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really can't see the court ruling in favor of the states on this one. But, hopefully, I'm wrong.
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#3425324 - 11/29/04 09:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just saw the fox poll. 92% in favor of medical marijuana. Quite frankly, its disgusting that people are more worried about finding a bag on thier kids than a dying cancer patient getting something to make them feel better.
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Re: Supreme Court to weigh medical marijuana laws [Re: ]
#3425409 - 11/29/04 09:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the Court votes in favor of the medicinal marijuana using people, wouldn't the DEA have the change marijuana to a schedule 2 drug, since it would then have accepted medical usage?
Of course I doubt they will, but it's a possibility
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#3425478 - 11/29/04 09:43 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is a big time case!!!!! the court does not like to overturn established laws of congress, but the alternative will be to overturn states rights principles....
I PREDICT THE STATES WILL WIN.
the conservative judges are pro states rights and i think a few liberal judges will also join in. maybe they will get together and decide on a unanimous vote. that would be great.
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