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Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. * 1
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Does anyone have any theories about what might have happened? The guy who did the check doesn't get it either. He asked beforehand if they would find anything, and I told him about every charge.

Edit: These convictions are 15 years old.


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Edited by JonBongGroovy (10/13/26 12:19 AM)

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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 3
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Trump pardoned you.

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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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Companies coming back to reality. They cant turn candidates away anymore. Good luck brother.

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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: DreamsOfields]
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The place I'm looking to be stationed at doesn't care cause they are willing to interview me so that's good.


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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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According to AI


Quote:
Because you live in Hawaii and are applying for a job in Hawaii, Hawaii state law (HRS § 378-2.5) governs what an employer can look at and consider, regardless of where the conviction actually happened.
Even though Ohio permits lifetime conviction reporting, a Hawaii employer—and any consumer reporting agency (CRA) running the check on their behalf—must abide by Hawaii's strict employment protection limits.
How Hawaii Law Applies to Your Ohio Record
1. Strict Lookback Limits Apply
Hawaii's state lookback caps apply to all convictions, whether they occurred in Hawaii or out-of-state:
* Felonies: Employers can only look back 7 years from the date of conviction (excluding periods of incarceration).
* Misdemeanors: Employers can only look back 5 years from the date of conviction (excluding periods of incarceration).
* Non-Convictions: Arrests, charges that were dropped, or dismissals cannot be considered at all.
If your Ohio conviction is older than 7 years for a felony or older than 5 years for a misdemeanor, a Hawaii employer is prohibited by law from considering it or using it to deny employment.
2. Hawaii's "Ban the Box" Sequence
In Hawaii, an employer cannot run a background check or ask you about your criminal history on an initial job application or during an interview. They are only legally allowed to inquire about or pull your record after making a conditional offer of employment.
3. The "Rational Relationship" Requirement
Even if your Ohio conviction falls within the 7-year (felony) or 5-year (misdemeanor) window, a Hawaii employer cannot automatically disqualify you. Under Hawaii law, the conviction must bear a direct, rational relationship to the specific duties and responsibilities of the position.
Key Exceptions
Hawaii's 7-year/5-year lookback limits do not apply to certain heavily regulated fields where federal or specific state mandates override standard employment law:
* Healthcare & Senior Care (e.g., state-licensed healthcare facilities)
* Education & Child Care
* Financial Institutions & Banking
* Law Enforcement & Armed Security
In these exempt industries, background checks often involve fingerprint-based FBI checks that pull lifetime records across all 50 states.





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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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So I guess I shouldn't put it on my application then or tell them if they ask sounds like I'm in the clear.


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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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I wouldn't. No real reason to self report that kind of thing if it's been so many years now.

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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: PatrickKn]
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yeah it's 15 years old


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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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Auto-Summary
A person with five criminal convictions may still receive a background check showing no criminal history due to various legal mechanisms like expungement, sealing, or record-clearing programs, which vary by state. While convictions typically remain public records, many jurisdictions offer pathways to make them inaccessible to the general public. Employers also use different background-check methods, which can affect results. However, multiple convictions are harder to remove and may still be accessible to certain agencies. The absence of a criminal history on a report doesn’t confirm the absence of a record, as the individual might have mischaracterized past cases, the check could have been limited, or the system could have had errors. Ultimately, the key issue is whether the individual actually had five legal convictions or other non-conviction dispositions.

There are such things as expungement events. Apparently it's expensive to...

... Well I don't know that one.

Usually you have to attend expungement events. But who knows if they are from like the Jurassic era sometimes they may wipe it from the system. If it's been a long time.

If it's murder there is no statute of limitations. Let me check the AI myself.







## Issue

Whether an individual who claims to have had five prior criminal convictions could nonetheless receive a background-check result showing no criminal history, and whether such an outcome could be explained by expungement, record sealing, prosecutorial record-clearing programs, pardons, vacatur, or limitations inherent in the background-check process.

## Rule

As a general matter, criminal convictions become part of the public judicial record and are ordinarily discoverable through criminal-history searches. However, every state provides some mechanism through which criminal records may become inaccessible, restricted, sealed, expunged, vacated, pardoned, or otherwise unavailable to the general public.

The legal effect of record-clearing remedies varies considerably among jurisdictions. In some states, eligible convictions may be expunged or sealed after a waiting period. In others, relief is limited primarily to arrests, dismissals, acquittals, diversion-program completions, or non-conviction dispositions.

Additionally, employers do not all conduct identical background investigations. Some searches rely upon county court records, some utilize state repositories, some use commercial databases, and some rely on private screening vendors with varying degrees of completeness and accuracy.

Accordingly, the absence of criminal-history information in a background report does not necessarily establish the absence of a criminal record.

## Application

### Argument Supporting a Clean Background Check

Several facts could support the conclusion that the background-check result was accurate.

First, many individuals use the word "conviction" colloquially rather than legally. Arrests, filed charges, deferred adjudications, diversion-program cases, plea negotiations, dismissed prosecutions, and probationary resolutions are often mistakenly described as convictions even though they may not constitute final judgments of guilt.

Second, numerous jurisdictions have expanded access to record-clearing remedies in recent years. Legislative reforms throughout the United States have created pathways for sealing or expunging certain criminal records that previously would have remained publicly accessible. As a result, an individual with a substantial criminal history may appear to have no publicly reportable record under a routine employment screening.

Third, some jurisdictions sponsor expungement clinics, record-clearing initiatives, or community legal-assistance events. While these programs generally do not erase records automatically, they assist eligible individuals in obtaining relief through existing statutory procedures.

Therefore, if the individual's prior cases were legally eligible for record-clearing relief, the absence of criminal-history information on a background check may not be surprising.

### Argument Against a Clean Background Check

Conversely, if the individual truly accumulated five separate criminal convictions resulting in final judgments of guilt, a completely clean background check warrants closer scrutiny.

Historically, convictions have been significantly more difficult to remove than arrests or dismissed charges. While laws vary among jurisdictions, multiple convictions generally create additional obstacles to obtaining comprehensive record-clearing relief.

Moreover, even where records have been sealed or expunged, certain governmental agencies, licensing authorities, law-enforcement entities, and security-sensitive employers may retain statutory access to the information.

As a result, the existence of five bona fide convictions makes total disappearance from all criminal-history systems less likely than the individual may believe.

### Alternative Explanations

There are several alternative explanations that may account for the discrepancy.

1. **The person mischaracterized the prior cases.**
  What the individual calls convictions may in fact have been arrests, dismissed charges, or diversionary dispositions.

2. **The background check was limited in scope.**
  The screening company may have searched only selected jurisdictions or databases.

3. **The records were sealed, expunged, or otherwise restricted.**
  Depending on the jurisdiction, those records may be unavailable to routine employment-screening inquiries.

4. **The convictions were later vacated or set aside.**
  A successful post-conviction proceeding can substantially alter a person's criminal-record status.

5. **The reporting system was incomplete or inaccurate.**
  Criminal-record databases are not universally comprehensive and occasionally produce false negatives.

## Conclusion

The fact that a background check revealed no criminal history does not necessarily mean that no criminal record ever existed.

A legally clean background check may result from expungement, sealing, vacatur, pardon, or other record-clearing mechanisms. It may also result from a limited search, reporting deficiency, or misunderstanding regarding the individual's actual criminal history.

Without knowing the jurisdiction in which the alleged convictions occurred and the precise nature of those convictions, it is impossible to determine with confidence whether the record was lawfully cleared or simply not located. Nevertheless, the most important factual question remains whether the individual actually sustained five final criminal convictions, as opposed to five arrests or criminal cases. That distinction is often dispositive.

### Legal-Analysis Bottom Line

If I were writing this as a first-year law-school exam answer, my final sentence would be:

> The strongest issue of fact is not whether the background check was wrong, but whether the underlying events were truly convictions in the legal sense, because expungement, sealing, and record-clearing statutes frequently treat convictions and non-convictions very differently.








I know for sure your FBI records are never expunged. That is however an entirely different story.

Possibly it's gone. Or they didn't check deep enough and far enough back.

Hey, for what it's worth, enjoy your recorded freedom.


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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: imachavel]
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I asked AI and it said Hawaii can only go back 7 years even though it's out of state. But in Ohio where it occurred there's no block on the amount of years. I'm looking at getting it expunged next year. But it did say state run organizations like hospitals can look back as far as they want.


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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: imachavel] * 2
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imachavel said:
There are such things as expungement events



I think Psicomb went to one of those recently

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Re: Staffing agency did background check but found nothing, I have 5 convictions. [Re: feevers]
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feevers said:
imachavel said:
There are such things as expungement events



I think Psicomb went to one of those recently



I'll talk with a lawyer next year if I have the money.


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feevers said:
imachavel said:
There are such things as expungement events



I think Psicomb went to one of those recently



:yeahthatsfunny:


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