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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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Soloist said:
Splittinghairs said:
Nichrome said:
fontinalis666 said:
Been out of the game for a bit, are we still shaking grains during colonization to speed things up?



yes



But only a couple of times. Otherwise you’re just playing with yourself



Does it count differently if you shake it hard and fast? Or gentle and slow..
:gains:



It's hard to define the perfect shake, but you'll know when you get there, just be thorough:jaded:



I have achieved a +4 shake experience, thanks yall 🤙


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fontinalis666] * 1
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Hi

These photos are 36 hours apart. sat 11pm mon 11am.

Quick question… Is this looking good?

and two if so, how long we reckon til 100% colonised?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Shroomy Steve said:


Hi

These photos are 36 hours apart. sat 11pm mon 11am.

Quick question… Is this looking good?

and two if so, how long we reckon til 100% colonised?



To my eyes, that looks fucking great. If those photos are 36 hours apart, then you've likely got 24 to 36 hours and then another week for consolidation.

That a lot of grain spawn, I'm very excited for you


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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To my eyes, that looks fucking great. If those photos are 36 hours apart, then you've likely got 24 to 36 hours and then another week for consolidation.

That a lot of grain spawn, I'm very excited for you



Thank You!

phew. 

My issue now is I ordered CVG thinking it would take a week to arrive but theyve already sent it out. Ahhhh might have to re-order it. oh well.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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I don't follow. It's not going to take more than 8 days for that to arrive is it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Whoops.
that first bag is a different bag that is taking a little longer here is the real 36 hours ago lol Not as impressive.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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Mistakes said:
I don't follow. It's not going to take more than 8 days for that to arrive is it?



No it could be here tomorrow. Not sure. but within 1-3 days. Just worried a bit early and it might not be at its best if been around. Probably overthinking it. Pre sterilized properly made stuff.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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How are you planning to spawn it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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Mistakes said:
How are you planning to spawn it?



Inflatable monotub.
under stairs is a nice small
space i can regulate temp with ceramic heater. Sits at 23-25 degrees 42% humidity

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Ok, so I saw that this is your first grow, and so far you're leagues ahead of where I was. So take a breath, you're doing a good job.
Next: check out this tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17447797#17447797

Lastly, I don't know that I would trust pre sterilized stuff made by someone else. Follow Frank's tek and you're golden.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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Mistakes said:
Ok, so I saw that this is your first grow, and so far you're leagues ahead of where I was. So take a breath, you're doing a good job.
Next: check out this tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17447797#17447797

Lastly, I don't know that I would trust pre sterilized stuff made by someone else. Follow Frank's tek and you're golden.



cheers mate

yeah I did a lot of research and watched every video i could about all of it for like 6 months before attempting. Was very clean SAB air purifier first etc So far so good but im well aware it can all go bad in a heart beat.
1. do you break up the grain in bag to check if its all colonised?
or just see all white feels like a brick and go for it?

2. laundry good for putting into monotub if
sterilise  all benches ceiling etc and purify air first
then wait 15 minutes for air to be still.
or kitchen better?

I think getting pro tools/agar/bags (costly but) and growing  B+ has helped.  god damn electric bill LOL

Edited by Shroomy Steve (07/20/26 12:23 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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how long you think a fully pasteurised 50/50+ casing will stay good for to use in a jar with sfd lid?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Shroomy Steve said:
cheers mate

yeah I did a lot of research and watched every video i could about all of it for like 6 months before attempting. Was very clean SAB air purifier first etc So far so good but im well aware it can all go bad in a heart beat.
1. do you break up the grain in bag to check if its all colonised?
or just see all white feels like a brick and go for it?

2. laundry good for putting into monotub if
sterilise  all benches ceiling etc and purify air first
then wait 15 minutes for air to be still.
or kitchen better?




1: Keep track of when it reaches what looks like full colonization. Go ahead and write that timestamp on your label there and then give it a week. After that week to consolidate, shake and break for probably the last time and make sure it is in fact fully colonized.
2: I would avoid laundry rooms, bathrooms, or kitchens (any room that already has running water or high humidity, really. You're basically picking a fight with Big Green if you go that route. Per Frank's bulk spawn tek, I wouldn't worry about sterilizing a bunch of stuff if your grain is fully colonized.
Just make sure your cvg is properly pasteurized, wear some gloves, and send it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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1: Keep track of when it reaches what looks like full colonization. Go ahead and write that timestamp on your label there and then give it a week. After that week to consolidate, shake and break for probably the last time and make sure it is in fact fully colonized.
2: I would avoid laundry rooms, bathrooms, or kitchens (any room that already has running water or high humidity, really. You're basically picking a fight with Big Green if you go that route. Per Frank's bulk spawn tek, I wouldn't worry about sterilizing a bunch of stuff if your grain is fully colonized.
Just make sure your cvg is properly pasteurized, wear some gloves, and send it.



are you saying shake and break to then put in monotub OR s&b and let it build back up into brick to see if it good?

Ill do it the stairs after a good clean.

thanks again.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Are PE/APE varieties harder to cultivate via liquid cultures? I've been having difficulties and am thinking I might try agar wedges and using master jars ... I don't ever do this and only use LC's for years now and it's just PE varieties that give me issues. Tnx : )

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
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Shroomy Steve said:
are you saying shake and break to then put in monotub OR s&b and let it build back up into brick to see if it good?

Ill do it the stairs after a good clean.

thanks again.</font></font>



Yes. If it's fully colonized, then it goes into the tub after a round of cold water hydration, if it isn't, then wait a bit longer. Seriously though, favorite that tek and treat it like the gospel


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes] * 2
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I remember Frank Horrigan well. Though I totally disagree with him on pasteurizing coir. Totally unnecessary. If you’re concerned about contaminated coir buy high quality coir. Coir itself will not contam, rather non coir debris in the coir is what contams. Pasteurization won’t do a thing to help unless your coir comes with beneficial bacteria populations added to it after the fact.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
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^^ this.

I used to use the ultra cheap shit and kept getting trich. Even with boiling water.

Went to coco bliss and even with cold water it comes out clean. Unfortunately you get what you paid for some times

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 2
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I've just added coco bliss to my wishlist based on this feedback. Thank you based mushroom family


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said:
I remember Frank Horrigan well. Though I totally disagree with him on pasteurizing coir. Totally unnecessary. If you’re concerned about contaminated coir buy high quality coir. Coir itself will not contam, rather non coir debris in the coir is what contams. Pasteurization won’t do a thing to help unless your coir comes with beneficial bacteria populations added to it after the fact.




Yup! I shared my zap grow on 6 month old, cold hydrated coir a few days ago. But I'll share it again 😂 I only use coco bliss and eco earth from chewy. I'm not sure if chewy carries it anymore. It's been a while. But I would buy a case or two and about the time I'd be ready for more, they would send a coupon in the mail 😎


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