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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefExtreme said:
dont care what yall do with me.  just toss me in a dumpster or feed me to a pack of coyotes.  whatevers clever.


are you a fan of Diogenes of Sinope? that was basically his instructions :crazy:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: oktopus] * 3
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I love his philosophy!

It's like a middle finger to the stuck up stoics of his time.

This guy masturbating and pissing in public to show his rebellious philosophy is genius to me.

I do not condone public masturbation unless your trying to prove a point haha


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Libertycap97] * 1
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I love (pseudo-) Diogenes. But apart from defacing coins and thd like, we have very little idea about his life. Most of the stories could be apocrypha or exaggerations.

His core ideas, well the core ideas of the Cynics in general, are great anyway. I've always admired the guy for being the first to say non-human animals might have a better grasp at what it's all about. Finally something different from this 'crown of creation' dogshit.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Interesting, in my ignorance I presumed his accounts were real.

I suppose after two thousand years its impossible to tell whats true.

I didn't know the cynics were the first to think about animals that way. I wonder does that include mushrooms haha



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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: flapping_bird] * 4
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flapping_bird said:
know something super fucked? For the last couple of years, I’ve received in-clinic IM ketamine shots twice a month for depression, and the cost has been covered 100% by my current private insurance health plan, after I pay my policy deductible each year.  It’s been **really** great - an absolute 100% lifesaver for me, instantly crushing suicidal ideation for me and providing a brief respite from the crushing weight of despair that can develop when things get bad.

Get this: If my health insurance were, at some point in the future, to switch over to Medicare, [in the USA, this is the gov’t funded program for health care for seniors and the disabled]…if that were to happen, my ketamine treatments would cost me a minimum of $5,000 per month out of pocket, 12 months out of the year, possibly for the rest of my life. Fuck that.  Is this not insane and totally immoral?

Is it a surprise that so many seniors and disabled are killing themselves or actively wanting to die? Not saying those rates due to lack of access to ketamine, but still…fuck! What are we doing to ourselves as a culture by allowing this madness? It oughta be covered, 100% for depression, for everyone.

Sorry/not sorry for the rant, but fuck-it-all, this really cooks me.

Peace to all, friends.


we'd get you sorted.  duc has an online prescription thats pretty good bird.  ill get you the link.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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My friend was able to do those ketamine trials back in 2019 and it changed his life. He was full of positive energy and talked about how the weight of life was gone.  His insurance paid for it but otherwise a guy would have to shell out like 600 dollars a visit.

He said the had music and projected images, sounded like quite a thing


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Libertycap97] * 1
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As with all of the ancient authors, we miss most of their works. A lot comes from people quoting texts in works that did survive, or vaguely alluding to works that were well-known in their times, but never made it down to us.

And the works that were handed down to us, were manually copied by scribes for generations. Sometimes things were added, or omitted, or adapted to contemporary theories on how things actually worked or happened. It's a pretty complex business if you get involved with it.

Like, random sidestreet, everything the average person believes Socrates wrote, was written by Plato. He lets Socrates tell us what are, for better or worse, essentially his (Plato's) own ideas. Just the way Socrates dies in his books should give reason to add a big grain of salt.
(He is forced to drink Conium maculatum, even that is an assumption and not a hard fact, but presuming he did indeed drink C maculatum, the way he dies seems to be really idealized and not very factual).

Anyway, Diogenes of Sinope has left us extremely little source material. Most of what we ascribe to him, is impossible to verify. We know he existed and we know he was considered a very anti-societal figure. But most of the really catchy quotes could just as well have been made up.

And yes, I meant that by elevating the dog to exemplary status, they were the first to break with the 'man is as god, so man is the ruler of nature' bs. Saying a dog is closer to its true self and man-made rules shouldn't apply to men, was a very radical proposition at the time. It still is for most people.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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You are a gift.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 4
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BeefExtreme said:
dont care what yall do with me.  just toss me in a dumpster or feed me to a pack of coyotes.  whatevers clever.


You know you're getting taxidermied and put in the temple by next Gen noobs :rockon:


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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You seem to know about this topic deeply.

I merely scratch the surface from bs youtube videos.

Do you think Stoicism holds any water?
For me its arrogant in a way. Especially anything from Marcus Aurelius. He's just a rich boy explaining why us commoners should obey and not question IMHO.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Mackload] * 1
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I think we would have more class than that haha


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Libertycap97] * 2
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Libertycap97 said:
You are a gift.


As good as they come

Libertycap97 said:
You seem to know about this topic deeply.

I merely scratch the surface from bs youtube videos.

Do you think Stoicism holds any water?
For me its arrogant in a way. Especially anything from Marcus Aurelius. He's just a rich boy explaining why us commoners should obey and not question IMHO.


Well, I did study history. With a focus on what we've done to ourselves in the past 150 years, but I have a deep appreciation for the Greek authors.

I think the stoics / peripathethics had a lot of great ideas, but as with everything, these got corrupted over time. And every humble and noble idea that's being repeated by people in a position of power gets corrupted extra fast.
Like with Zeno, Aurelius was too proud and full of himself to really embody the lifestyle he paid lip service too.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: hidingbush] * 5
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hidingbush said:
My friend was able to do those ketamine trials back in 2019 and it changed his life. He was full of positive energy and talked about how the weight of life was gone.  His insurance paid for it but otherwise a guy would have to shell out like 600 dollars a visit.

He said the had music and projected images, sounded like quite a thing


Oh yeah - for me, ketamine has been a true lifesaver. The in-clinic injections are dosed around 1mg/kg body weight, and I’m still pretty lucid at that level most of the time.  But it is a pretty solid short duration treatment that provides real relief.

I’ve come to see the available medicinal treatments for depression as a continuum: traditional antidepressants > ketamine > psilocybin. 

For me ,the antidepressants enable me to just keep breathing but not to feel anything. Ketamine instantly crushes suicidal ideation and allows me to have some peace & lighter feelings for short (days-long) periods. A psilocybin trip, even when it’s a hard/challenging trip, makes ALL of life happy and light for me for six full weeks at a time quite reliably. 

So, if my insurance changes and won’t cover my own ketamine treatments, I figure I’ll be all-good with my home grown mushrooms, which I’ve now adopted as my religious sacrament. But that middle (legal) ketamine option would go away for me.

With depression affecting more than 10% of the population, it pains me most to consider all the other people, maybe in a similar situation, who may never have the initiative, courage, or perhaps wherewithal, to intentionally break the law and learn to grow and use their own medicine to heal their own minds.  Those poor folks will have to just try to endure the despair and get along without, all while cheap and legal ketamine is known as a great treatment option…simply made financially inaccessible for so many due to it not being covered by stupid Medicare.

Seems to me to be a shameful statement on the values of our society/culture. 

I want so badly to try to help change this situation, but I am at a loss for how to be effective with those efforts.

Anyway, I’m gonna try to be done on this topic for a bit - I appreciate the space and tolerance for me to rant for a moment.

Peace to all.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Libertycap97] * 1
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AstroSporeFiend said:
How was Mexico? Do tell


So, it was planned months and months ago since it was for my best friend's wedding. But, several times along the way, I just felt like cancelling. I didn't really have a reason and didn't know why, I just didn't want to anymore. Then there was the added stress of what was I going to wear to a wedding because I've never had to go to one before (minus both sisters, but I was a bridesmaid so never had to think about what to wear).

It has been so cold and snowy in ME - more so than other years. I love winter, but damn, kind of over it now. But man, when I walked into my hotel room and saw the jacuzzi and view, I was instantly happy that I didn't cancel.



Normally when I go out of the country, I'm super adventurous. Hotel rooms are for sleep only. But since this was a resort (not really being in MX), I got to stay in my room a lot just admiring the view and reading in the jacuzzi and just erased all the stress of life back home.

For my wedding outfit, I wore my twin sister's watch which just so happened to go perfectly with my outfit. It kind of made me feel like I was sharing MX with her.

I took off a week from work, too, so my mind is feeling better than before I left.

Libertycap97 said:
You are a gift.


This is just putting things lightly.

Not sure if anyone here celebrates Valentine's, but if you do, I'd love to hear what you got planned for your significant other. I've been single for years, so my Valentine is my black cat and I plan on giving him all the food he wants today (especially since I took him to the vet yesterday and they shoved swabs up both his nostrils).


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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Like beef, you're a gift too, bird.

"I want so badly yo try to help, (...) but I'm at a loss for how to be effective with those efforts"

Well, you don't seem to shy away from helping people that are willing to accept help, with growing their own medicine. What can you reasonably expect from yourself? If you want to be 'high up' in society, you might be able to make big changes, but you'd probably have to compromise several times along the way. From your current position, you can help people, but they won't be in their millions. You make a sincere effort to do so, so your moral compass points the right way.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 5
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I think when I go I want my remains sprinkled over the happiest place on earth.

But I don't want to be cremated.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Many thanks, Churp, for your kind comments - I do appreciate you very much. In my heart, I am an activist; in practice, I’m much less effective at fomenting change than I would prefer.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: DV8DUG]
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Oh, that sound? That’s just chunks of DV8DUG, getting sprinkled!  You message made me think of something like a big woodchipper, at Disneyland.  :smile: Peace to you, friend!


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: flapping_bird] * 6
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i confess im struggling today.

some lowlife assaulted duc in traffic.  she didnt do anything wrong, she had the right of way and he lost his mind.  followed her for miles menacing her.  police couldnt do anything.


as a survivor, shes all fucked up about it.  doesnt want to leave the house.

heres the thing.  dude did this in his company vehicle.  guy owns a little moving company, so i have his company, name, address, and both phone numbers.  im trying to figure out what to do with this info.

i wouldnt do anything violent or illegal. i did drive by his house to verify.  it does appear to be his house.  Im infuriated and i dont want to let it ruin our weekend.  i just think there should be consequences down the line.  he doesnt have a google listing to review.  not that legit.  his llc appears to be delinquent with the secretary of states office.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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I am sorry that happened & am hoping the best for you and Duc, Beef. Peace, brother. :peace: :hug:


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