Churpee Choozle said:

Mr Piggy said:

Call up some local arborist companies and see if they will drop chips off for you.  Don’t know how it works there, but here they have to pay to drop chips at the material yard, so they willingly drop truckloads off at your place.

Outside I just lay chips out in the rainy season and spawn to them.  Super easy, low fuss.

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Since biofuel became a thing, we get like 50 or 60 euros here for a truckload of chips. But yeah if it isn't too much of a hassle most arborists will happily bury your yard in chips. Renting a small chipper also isn't expensive, as long as you don't have to drive an hour for it.

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Mr Piggy said:

I’ve always gone agar>grain>outside woodchip bed.  It works for me without problems, but other people claim it causes rodent problems.  I’ve never pasteurized, no point outdoors.  Just mix in a good amount of spawn (grain, chips, hwfp, whatever) with your chip beds and you should be good.

Growing azzies or any other cyan clade is about patience more than anything.  It’s about making some spawn, creating well made chip beds, and leaving them the fuck alone.

To be fair, the culture in the picture is a stick with pins I brought home from ft stevens in Oregon.  I’ve been expanding it for a few years.  Saw it pop up on Inat a couple of times this year

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I've put a couple of old subs outside during summer and rodents be all over the grains so I think my best bet is to stay clear of grain spawn going straight outdoors. I can pasteurize like 20 liters in one go for the outdoor chips, so if it would up my chances even by 10% it's a small amount of work, but if it doesn't help at all then I'm not doing it But the chips should be soaked when I make beds or just let nature do that for me?

How do I make a well made chip bed

Stipe-n Cap said:

I love laying down a yard of dick on a deserving fool. *cracks a beer with disdain*

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Never heard that one before, but

Churpee Choozle said:

Don't worry for outdoors. Once you've got them on wood they'll pretty much destroy everything. Fermenting is good enough, just untreated chios are good enough.

As long as you're building spawn indoors, they need some pampering. After that it's just go go go.

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Kloakk said:

Will pasteurizing help even a little?

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You don't need to do anything to your outside chips except spawn to them.  Some people ferment, I've done it with success before, but in general I just dump spawn in wet chips and the myc will rip through them.  Woodlovers are pretty hands off once you get outside, leaving them alone will be the hard part.

I think you should be good to go on expanding grain to chips with bags or whatever.  The grain should be mostly consumed by the time you go to spawn outside, it certainly will be by the time they are headed to fruiting.

I'm serious about contacting arborists for chips.  If they won't drop them off for you, try to figure out (ask) where they drop them and go see if you can buy some chips off of them.  Don't just settle for smoker chips, get loads and make some big beds.  You will not regret it.

Mr Piggy said:

I confess to having the chip lust.

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You’ll never look at wood chips the same they said

Mr Piggy said:

Honestly I live in a rainforest in the PNW, I haven’t ever really had to soak chips outside

Leave em out in the rain, soak em for two days, whatever’s cleaver.

Also, home isn’t the only place to make patches.  Having a pile of chips means you can put a couple of buckets of them in the car and spawn new patches at will anywhere. 

I confess to having the chip lust.

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I make my own chips with a SunJoe chipper. They're a lot smaller than smoker chips and don't hold water as long. They're stored in 4 gallon pots and not always sitting in the rain, so I soak them for about two weeks before spawning. I may have used the term ferment in the past.. which basically it is, but I have never had bug issues or any odors associated. So I'm now wondering if it's a good term lol.

I love my cheap ass chipper though. It's on year three heading into four come spring. Chips up hardwood branches all day and I still haven't had to sharpen the blade.

And because I know yer gonna ASK.

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Anyways lol, there's newer versions now but I sure am even more happy I got it after seeing that price. I bought mine for half that. Already paid for itself a dozen times over so even if it blows up tomorrow I'm good.

the_chosen_one said:

I make my own chips with a SunJoe chipper. They're a lot smaller than smoker chips and don't hold water as long. They're stored in 4 gallon pots and not always sitting in the rain, so I soak them for about two weeks before spawning. I may have used the term ferment in the past.. which basically it is, but I have never had bug issues or any odors associated. So I'm now wondering if it's a good term lol.

I love my cheap ass chipper though. It's on year three heading into four come spring. Chips up hardwood branches all day and I still haven't had to sharpen the blade.

And because I know yer gonna ASK.

Link button is sneaking in words that aren't in the text!

Anyways lol, there's newer versions now but I sure am even more happy I got it after seeing that price. I bought mine for half that. Already paid for itself a dozen times over so even if it blows up tomorrow I'm good.

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Yeah, was thinking about just getting this cheap ass chipper