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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Kickle]
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I tried to be polite and begged a question as an informal answer.

Why ? Because your question doesn't make sense in the context of my claim. You are negating the antecedent. My claim is about what will is, not about what is not. (or better yet, what has will, and not what doesn't have will)


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Edited by MAIA (12/23/25 06:47 PM)

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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: MAIA]
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I asked for clarification with questions. How can a question be a negation?

Your words:
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"Will" is the intrinsic responsibility of the sentient being in what is the manifestation of reality. Without it, neither knowledge, method or action have any purpose.


I can't wrap my head around a view of asking what you mean here as being a negation. I can't respond when I have no idea what you are taking about. Take care.

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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Kickle]
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“There is no will but God’s”, to quote ACIM.

To put it in the context of this thread: nothing could happen without the consent and agreement of the Divine Mom. All the beauty, all the horror.


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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Can you try another way that doesn't involve 3rd parties? Speak for yourself maybe?


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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Kickle]
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Veil of Maya; balance every joy with a grief...

Dual scales of Maya...


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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
I asked for clarification with questions. How can a question be a negation?



Because my claim is positive ""Will" is", a property of things with will, while your question revolves around "something without a will". You might want to clarify it better. It's possible I didn't understand your question.

But answering your question:

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Like does an apple seed have the will to become an apple tree? If not, does an apple tree then lack purpose?


No, because the tree is the purpose of the seed. Like, what is the purpose of life if not to be lived ? Are we talking about will or the nature of things ?

Take care :smile:


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Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
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Edited by MAIA (12/23/25 08:53 PM)

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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: MAIA]
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I'll quote for a 3rd time:

MAIA said:
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"Will" is the intrinsic responsibility of the sentient being in what is the manifestation of reality. Without it, neither knowledge, method or action have any purpose.


The bolded portion is what my question is in relation to, and why I keep quoting it. If the bolded part isn't talking about an absence of will, then I simply remain with the same lack of understanding of your words as prior.

Rephrasing the question: what is an example of "without it"? What are you referring to here that suggests method could lack any purpose?

It sounds like you think seeds and trees have purpose. So not seeds or trees. Thanks for that.

And if you're not referring to without will, you could maybe explain what the bolded part is referring to with the word 'it', heh, that would be a new question

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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: Kickle]
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MAIA said:
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"Will" is the intrinsic responsibility of the sentient being in what is the manifestation of reality. Without it, neither knowledge, method or action have any purpose.


I understand 'Will' as choosing to be present in the Here/Now. That the reason 'I' exist is to manifest the Mothers 'Dream' into 'Actuality'. I choose to Be, to Feel, to Act, to Love. I choose to accept the suffering that often occurs in the Here/Now. I'm not always successful, sometimes I try to escape reality, my depression gets the best of me.

I met the Mother when I was around 5 years old. I posted about it in a 'what  about aliens' thread. I think of her as the TimeGoddess, but I feel she could be thought of as the Divine Mother. I sensed that she was manifesting endless realities, and was trying to evolve realities that supported beings who were self aware. She seemed/felt 'Primary'. I was in Awe. This is what I wrote:

Never while tripping. But when I was around 5 years old I was thinking intensely trying to figure out what time was (still trying actually). Then I had the thought 'what if everything everywhere totally stopped forever, and then somehow started again, how would you  notice?' This freaked me out because, well, how would you notice? So I was imagining everything stopped, and was trying to imagine 'everywhere' part, I was 'zooming out' (like my house, my neighborhood, my town, the globe, solar system, then just stars and stars) after awhile I noticed I was standing on kinda a 'floor'. It was like a green and black tiled checkerboard. And there was a sorta 'woman/alien' who was watching the tiles, which I could now see were everywhere (like an infinite box) The tiles where now seen to be walls built of an infinity of TV's. As she looked at individual tiles/TV's they 'unfroze' and I could see stars spinning, or planets, or people, or colors, different things each time. She noticed me and put a 'T-shirt' on me (I had the sense that it was some kind of 'marker' identifying me because she found it interesting that I was able to imagine time stopping) It occurred to me that she was watching the TV's to find 'interesting' things.
That was it, she faded away and I was back in my yard. I've thought of her since as the 'TimeGoddess'. I'd like to see her again, it was very cool. I've tripped way over 1000 times, often on huge amounts (usually LSD), but no aliens.

Anyway, the story seems on topic.

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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: GratefulHippie]
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Thanks for sharing


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Re: DIVINE MOTHER [Re: GratefulHippie] * 1
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Nice GratefulHippie. I had similar ponderings when I was a kid, too. I would walk to the bus stop before school and think, "how do I know if any of my memories are real? Maybe I just died because I got hit by a car, but just shifted to a parallel world where I am still alive. Or maybe the universe just came into existence right now and all my memories are like implants."



Your report reminds me of a salvia experience I had where the salvia entity identified herself as "a world creator":

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Recently I took some MDMA, smoked some cannabis, and while peaking felt compelled to smoke some Salvia 10x extract. I did several hits, each one spaced out as I went in and out of the depths. After my first hit, I immediately felt the presence of so-called Lady Salvia as I and many others have experienced. This time, though, she had a presence that was more distinct and immediate than I had ever experienced before. I greeted her, and she proceeded to explain to me that to interact with her is to “interact on the world-creation level,” and that she herself is a “world creator.” She then proceeded to reveal that she is an avatar of the Divine Mother or the gnostic Sophia. Over the next few hits of Salvia, she took me into my own depths, showed me that Earth and the Divine Mother are of the same principle, that Earth is not what it appears but is actually a matrix of countless (infinite?) vibrations that overlay and interact in some kind of grand symphony, that our bodies belong to Earth and are aspects of Earth’s creative ability and also a way in which we (humans) are all One on a physical level. She showed me that the Divine Mother is an intrinsic aspect of who I am, that she is not separate from me but in fact acts through me to create my world, and that only my (and the collective’s) repression of the feminine have blocked this fact from conscious awareness.  When she showed me that I am an expression of the Divine Mother, I saw it as the formless void of creation emerging as my own face, my feminine Self intrinsic to my unique, individual personality.



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