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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Uhh, gassing children to death and dealing with a gnat infestation are not even on the same planet.  I'm really hoping that's not where you were going with that.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy] * 9
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Mr Piggy said:
Uhh, gassing children to death and dealing with a gnat infestation are not even on the same planet.  I'm really hoping that's not where you were going with that.



The high council of gnats has read your comment and determined it to be inappropriate and hateful. You have 24 hours to correct this egregious error and apologize, after which time your tubs will be targeted for righteous and legal retaliation.

Have a good day. Buzz buzz.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
Mr Piggy said:
Uhh, gassing children to death and dealing with a gnat infestation are not even on the same planet.  I'm really hoping that's not where you were going with that.



The high council of gnats has read your comment and determined it to be inappropriate and hateful. You have 24 hours to correct this egregious error and apologize, after which time your tubs will be targeted for righteous and legal retaliation.

Have a good day. Buzz buzz.



:ilold:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
Mr Piggy said:
Uhh, gassing children to death and dealing with a gnat infestation are not even on the same planet.  I'm really hoping that's not where you were going with that.



The high council of gnats has read your comment and determined it to be inappropriate and hateful. You have 24 hours to correct this egregious error and apologize, after which time your tubs will be targeted for righteous and legal retaliation.

Have a good day. Buzz buzz.



Based.

Hey, gnat reminds me: does anyone know the optimum substrate moisture content for hatching, uh, I mean, fruiting conditions? Asking for a friend.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 7
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either UTFSE or simply check for field capacity using your proboscis like the rest of us...

(hi everyone, Lithop. I googled proboscis for spelling, I then found out we fungus gnats have no proboscis. this is the thread of the website where someone will kick the fuck off about that, so my deepest apologies at this time)

Edited by Lithop (11/21/25 11:49 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
Yeah, I tried polyfill in the holes in my tubs (fucked too much with FAE) and covering them in mesh. But it's just... Too many plants, fungi and animals on a small surface, too much shit that just emerges from the rope bag (once had a huge ass spider, that was pretty cool)...

Considering the amount of chips, logs, dung and compost that passes through the house, I'm surprised I don't have squirrels and coconut crabs roaming my tubs.

Should have done this long ago. It's just that I cannot really explain why Italians spraying Abyssinians to death, or Iraqi soldiers spraying Iranian child soldiers to death, are incomparable to me now. I have some fundamental issues with killing defenseless beings. Even though I hate the crap out of them.



This is probably the main reason I've leaned heavily on just breaking the life cycle and not growing in warmer months. Used to feel horrible hitting them with the torch lighter.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 2
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feels horrible, smells DIVINE

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Lithop] * 3
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I also feel bad about killing small beings.

Now excuse me while I fire up the sterilizer.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog]
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Yeah sorry. I am 100% in the all beings have a consciousness boat and all. But fuck the gnats.


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- Those two answers coexist peacefully.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy] * 6
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Pig, I'm pretty sure you've also read the books and booklets that describe how 'vermin' needs to be 'eradicated', or 'alien elements' need to be 'removed from the people'.

It's all just humans saying: you bother me, don't exist. They all know they are damn right too, because humans always know they are, and on the right side too. Especially the 'right' humans.

I don't know for shit if I'm right, or on the right side, I just try not to go with the 'cleanse it with fire' thing too easily. I know 90% of the people here will laugh about it, but no one has ever shown me any evidence that a spider or a bird is worth less than I am, or is any less attached to life. And I've painstakingly looked for that evidence.
Yeah nah, says the guy on the couch, beer in hand, nah, but we invent shit, that's different. We think about shit.

For a species calling itself 'the thinking thinkape, var. thinking', we think surprisingly little about everything that's slightly outgroup. I'd rather keep 'outgroup' as small as possible. A fly trying to push through the window has more lust for life than some people I used to hang out with. A cow going through the oxytocin positive feedback loop with her calf, is chemically speaking, hormonally speaking, indistinguishable from a human parent going through that loop with their child. The resulting bond is, purely biological, the same. Gass and skin one and you're a monster, gass and skin the other and you're a decent person.
I don't buy that


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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I agree with all of that.

And as apes, it is quite natural for us to feel more strongly about human children being murdered than gnats.  The bacteria I'm about to murder in the oven as I sterilize plates.  Or all the stuff I do unconsciously through my immune system.

My Zen teacher pointed out that ethics is a North Star, not a place we expect to get to.  We revere life, but still we cook our food and boil our water to stay healthy.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 7
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As an ape, I’m mostly concerned with other ape’s asses and eating fruit. This occupies most of my cognitive bandwidth


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
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^:hereyougo:
wait till you find out about the fruit 'peach', you'll flip out

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
Yeah, I tried polyfill in the holes in my tubs (fucked too much with FAE) and covering them in mesh. But it's just... Too many plants, fungi and animals on a small surface, too much shit that just emerges from the rope bag (once had a huge ass spider, that was pretty cool)...




Have you tried misting with peppermint oil infused water?

It worked for me after a week of treatment. It didn't seem to outright kill them either. They just stopped existing. Never found any bodies.

It's cheap, non-toxic, and can be used on house plants. Even if it doesn't work there shouldn't be any harm.


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I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Yeah I have serious issues with that. Kloakk said it somewhere in the recent past, in I guess this thread. Every time I take a shower I kill so many organisms. Really hit home.

Puff, thanks. Essential oil fucks with the olfactory orientation of the gnats.
I do that. Mist with oil, have little sauce containers with oil in the FCs... Last time the gnats came, I had not replenished those containers in time. But this time everything reeks of peppermint and I still found one.


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Use diatomaceous earth.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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I just toss after first flush and it seems to get rid of em pretty quick


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
Yeah I have serious issues with that. Kloakk said it somewhere in the recent past, in I guess this thread. Every time I take a shower I kill so many organisms. Really hit home.





This would give any reasonable person the perspective needed to get over the over-sensitivity to the fact that you cause the death of other organisms all the time. Circle of life and all that.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 4
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Circle of rebirth.  Gnats die and become compost.  Compost feeds the mushrooms. Mushrooms feed the gnats.

Did they die?  Maybe life is just a word we've attached to temporary processes between being mushroom food.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (11/21/25 03:08 PM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 4
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I'm all about life is precious and all, but inside my borders there are no rules when it comes to pest insects. The Geneva Convention does not apply to mosquitos or gnats.

Confession - I hate myself for clicking on a few threads in OTD and political discussion. I also now think less of some of the people posting over there, but I make no apologies for that.


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