FoolOfElysium said:

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Social security was cut by $220 billion and Medicare by $880 billion.

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This is a total and complete lie that I will presume you've just bought and are parroting, so I forgive you.

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FoolOfElysium said:

Windmills have been proven to leave horrible waste behind in various ways. They are not efficient.

Social security was not "gutted." It hasn't been touched beyond fraud. You're buying into lies. I say that with love, not animosity. Social security is fine.

I can't speak of the rest, but you're missing the forest for the trees if you think a President has the power to fix all these problems without congress.

It's the entire reason Trump has to clean up the deep state. This all just goes around in circles unless the root of the problem is weeded out.

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FoolOfElysium said:

KevinDontWave said:

FoolOfElysium said:

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Exactly. Trumpers are either stupid or delusional and tell themselves that billionaires actually care about them

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The flaw in your thinking is that all billionaires are de-facto evil.

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You don't get to a billion dollars by being a do-gooder.

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It's called balance, because this world is ruthless.

Those in cushy countries simply let their leaders handle the ruthless parts for them.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

Look a normal person can get fined $5000 and it'll ruin them. That doesn't mean shit to a billionaire.
So that's directly hurting poor people. Do you understand that?

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dinosaurs said:

(DOGE disproportionately targeted entities with critical oversight of elon's business activities) not actually anything in the best interests of the country.

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dinosaurs said:

the deathstar argument against DOGE:

-with all the asserted fraud amongst the cuts, where are the fraud charges?


and in a similar vein, where are the ICE charges against employers for hiring "illegals?"


thats how you know this is about perpetuating trump/musk corruption and racism, (DOGE disproportionately targeted entities with critical oversight of elon's business activities) not actually anything in the best interests of the country.

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christopera said:

FoolOfElysium said:

Windmills have been proven to leave horrible waste behind in various ways. They are not efficient.

Social security was not "gutted." It hasn't been touched beyond fraud. You're buying into lies. I say that with love, not animosity. Social security is fine.

I can't speak of the rest, but you're missing the forest for the trees if you think a President has the power to fix all these problems without congress.

It's the entire reason Trump has to clean up the deep state. This all just goes around in circles unless the root of the problem is weeded out.

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Let’s take a minute to reflect on this. Nobody is building windmills. They are building wind generators. It’s a common mistake that Trump makes too. Now you could give the benefit of the doubt and say “well that’s what he means when he says wind mills” but the problem is that he’s a self proclaimed expert on the matter, just like you are trying to be. People that are actual experts and not just people that think they are smarter than everybody else tend to use correct terminology when discussing the topic they are an expert in. Especially when wind mills are used to make flour and other milled grains and wind generators are used to make electricity. That’s an important distinction that surely a real expert would care to note. People that are blowing smoke up your ass talk like plebs and act like experts. Trump being a great example.

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vicepope said:

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/2020-tax-brackets/
2020
Vs
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-releases-tax-inflation-adjustments-for-tax-year-2025
Done.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

Doge has not got the numbers to prove what their claims were. They have been discredited. Their boss has been fired. And essentially, the workforce has been dissolved into the various government agencies that already were tasked with the literal description of what that organization was. A whistleblower from doge that was fired for attempting to root out fraud was actually talking on NPR today.

Essentially, it got disintegrated.
What it did do was serve as a mechanism to fire a ton of people. That have been since getting rehired in some cases, in others the job is completely replaced by AI.

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