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Ps. Galindoi (ATL7) Experimental Grows
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The post details personal cultivation experiences with Psilocybe galindoi, focusing on various aspects such as substrate, temperature, humidity, and handling techniques. Observations include the plant's preference for high humidity, avoiding straw in compost, and its ability to recover from drought. The author also discusses the growth of truffles, pin formation, and the impact of airflow and light on the process. They share their findings on using different substrates, like BRF jars and manure compost, and the challenges of isolating and cultivating the species. The post concludes with a call for feedback and further discussion on the topic.

Private notes on cultivation, observations, guesses/theories, etc.
Here are the first few grows ever working with this variety so this is fun.
None of this is bias, untested, and for the sake of a fun learning experience. If I don't remember users to credit please forgive me.

A lot of help from Stonesun and of course, Workman's notes.
Much love and the credit goes to both of them! Also want to thank Cybesa for the encouragement,
and fun chatting about Ps. Galindoi, much love to them also.

These are experiments after all, totally not an excuse to use if this messed up at all LOL.
Also, beautiful, been wanting to work with this species for a very long time!

The printing is sometimes good, you can usually tell by looking at the gills if they are able to print or not.


 

Workman worked to get it
its a pretty looking species, etc, etc.

Currently working on whether or not ATL7 will work with an unmodified BOD tub.


Feb.2025-April 2025
temps, during fruiting, spawn run, substrate run.
"68-67 degrees F. lowest" "69-74 degrees F. highest"


No personal experience with any invitro truffles in grain yet. Tolerates popcorn.

Mycelium seemed to "LOVE" corners SOMETIMES of shoeboxes, more fruits/mushrooms on the surface there. Sometimes truffles there too, or
near the edges also.

Snow white, to barely beige, to light tan mycelium.
In grain jars (popcorn, rye) sometimes before reaching 100% in spawn run,
mycelium will display a "lightning bolt" (see photo examp) when this happened usually an indicator truffles are going to form. Not my credit info, saw post here saying the same. Observed it is true. This "bolt" will go white to tanned "maringue" colored. This seems normal.


Pins can take some standing water on surface, and SOME misting, too much or too close and often, WILL cause them to abort.


Gauge, if any osciliating fans on low in the room, or how quickly your terrarium loses RH/humidity. Keep RH and humidity high, with keeping good FAE and vice versa.
Spraying every few hours with oscilating fan on pointed away and NOT directly at terrarium. Remember the longer without misting, fan on or not, and evaportation, micro currents, the humidity will drop significantly, FIX that asap.

Agar with ATL#7 seem way better, less forgiving with thick wedges.
Mycelium on the side, of jar, petri, etc collections from there seemingly less reliable?

ATL#7 isolating seems a bit trickier, due to bacteria and such growing, in the substrate from many mistings and waters. Seems to love to bring bacteria with it, keep in mind when isolating/tissue sampling ATL#7. Try tetracylcin agar(?) dont post that note XD


During colonization, from S2B, a misting/watering was needing during colonization of the substrate. WATER THE UNCOLONIZED Parts/Parts of substrate
on the surface that is NOT colonized, carefully w/spray bottle.
It likes water, do not let it dry out.
IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, if the casing or substrate dries out, even nearly fully.

Ps.Tamp.Galindoi can recover from droughts (the reason for truffles, duh haha) Dont let it get that bad if fruiting cased substrate.

Doesn't seem to like straw or colonizing it from my observations in a composted manure/straw/coir mixture. HOWEVER it will still tolerate it to some small scale (roughly 25-30% shredded straw in compost)


Also I wanted to test using a pure vermiculite casing layer, this I had no control of but now know it will work. Probably not ideal of course?
What I have heard before is 50/50 coir with washed sand for gardening works well too. That casing layer is said to imitate, the hot and humid, sandy swamps they dwell in, where they fruit from water logged soil, sand, that you imagine goes away with the wind blowing often, but the humidity stays high, its been purported to be tolerant of growing on or near woodchips as well.

Also when spawned to substrate, it will break and crack your casing and substrate apart a bit. That casing layer you worked so hard on to perfect.
Pretty sure that's the truffles growing and "moving around".


BRF jars with ATL#7 (yes you heard me right) spawned to, yup, manure compost, roughly 30% straw, and coir)

Getting colonized BRF jars of ATL#7, spawned to composted manure, straw, maybe some coir, NOTHING ELSE THAT'S IT. Depending on genetics, if spores, LC, agar, stilled produced fruiting bodies, but one or two small truffles. The size of a US 5 cent coin, with the odd appearance of a white chocolate covered raisin.
Crumbly cake bruh...

Someone else mentioned that here about Galindoi, it doesn't make many truffles when cased with verm (THE BRF cake spawn that is) that is true but I'm still looking into that, kind of in a pinch whether to check on it and break it apart again (Yes it's still growing) or leave it alone.

I was wrong, I guessed ATL#7 wouldn't mind the whole spawning with BRF because it got spawned to manure compost, that THAT would make up for the lack of spawn.
They seem to love/prefer grain, of course right?


if leaving or not able to tend to them, close up the container, keep humid until returned the terrarium that is. Shoeboxes are covered with foil and poked with small holes while colonizing in a dark clean room temp. enviroment.

ATL#7 when grown with grain and S2B with manure compost, when the fruiting/mushroom isolate is used, there are no present pre-truffles that may be present on the surface (when fully colonized or nearly). See Examp.


When grown with the isolate "A and B mixture"* (liquid culture) Mushrooms AND truffles can be present, but few to little fruiting bodies.
*A and B isolate mycelium "mixture?" from workman's notes from 2002.
No truffles present on same substrate MINUS the straw.
This image is a shoebox ATL#7, composted manure and coir. This one is NOT truffle dominant isolate, this one is for mushroom fruiting bodies. I don't know if it will still make sclerotia.

A typical "minitub", "dubtub", or even "shoebox", seemed to last 4-5 weeks before succumbing to trichoderma. For safety reasons the small spot of trich (don't let it get that bad) is removed however you wish carefully. Then if with with a MG or not a fruiting isolate, then when thats when truffles can be harvested. Cleaning is easy, a paper towel to gently clean off bulk from the truffle(s) then another paper towel to get the little crevices and hard to reach spots.

Can be used to inoculate substrate "casing"

Left over grain-spawn from harvesting truffles can be separated and used to inoculate a suitable substrate followed by incubating.
Left over grain-spawn from S2B and in grain jar truffles.

Truffles can "move around" in the casing layer or on surface of substrate.
They can be seen making hills, bumps, and even breaking through the surface to say hi :wave:
Examp.
I remember getting such an enjoyment outta noticing them moving over a period of days.

Truffles may form (hills, bumps) on surface BEFORE fruits or pins are present.

Pins appeared for me, often 6-14 days after fruiting conditions.
24 hour lighting did NOT seem to affect anything.

Crack the lid, barely open for FAE and keep the humidity still high doing so.
With the lid cracked you will need to mist a little more often, depending on the airflow, room currents, etc.

Truffles seem to form with ATL7 during the substrate run, sometimes continuing with a head start from being in the jars.

Sometimes in my LITTLE experience, other than misting to keep up humidity, the surface of the casing layer can be allowed to dry out a bit WHILE pins are past pinned stage and right before, or during the caps opening up.

IF YOU MUST water in my experience, during pins if the casing is dry, water it like a potted plant, and AWAY from the fruiting bodies (not sure on that one for sure) because thinking about it; the entire substrate is colonized and the mycelium is all connected.
Keep the water away from the pins/fruits if you need to water, the goal is to not let it get too dry before pins.

Dealing with Pan. Bisporus at the time, and reading up as a last ditch resort. Used for ATL too here for an "ATL#7 CAKE" haha I'm having fun experimenting. So spawned more BRF cakes to manure in a little bucket, was not pinning but SEEMED to be focusing on truffles.

Not enough air flow with the container's sides blocking FAE, colonized substrate was "birthed" and treated the same. This was to make room in my terrarium :lol: but I noticed pins finally appeared shortly days after!

Jars with tiny cream colored truffles



Sometimes caps (still convex) may become "blurry" or barely "fuzzy"
suspected culprit is MORE FAE while the caps are getting ready to drop spores, plane out.

Looky!

You want s'more random shots? Uhhh okay! :crazy:


Quite amusing cultivating these for research and studying, and I tried a lot of this stuff experimental. I also had quite several jars of spawn to play with. Thoughts? Questions? Inputs?.... concerns? :shocked:
:cheers:


Edited by Wedgie (09/14/25 09:11 PM)

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Re: Ps. Galindoi (ATL7) Test Grows [Re: Wedgie]
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All of these tests are done with bottled water/mineral water/tap water. Yellow to dark yellow are normal metabolites for Ps. Cubensis and others, but ATL7 has a dark clear orange/reddish orange metabolite droplets. This is normal not to worry. Remember keep the lid of the terrarium slightly open, crack the lid barely open, member?

So here's another isolate mini tub, same substrate minus straw, same isolate genetics. Still waiting for the two to pin.



This photo is the same SB that was spawned to manure compost with straw yes, but spawned with BRF cakes. The white chocolate raisin one remember? The remaining shoebox, same photo, succumbed to trich and was thrown in a plastic pot. Turns out during it's time outside, it grew another truffle.


So from this one I was able to obtain two samples. This is "N2" or "Numtoo" short for Number2 which is a tissue clone of this specimen. With the two samples, one did not make it, succumbed to bacteria.
Yeah the name is inspired from ATL#7.

One did amazing, colonized the agar and was transferred to popcorn, via wedge inoculation. This was a personal test to see if the isolate is true to itself.
For example, same height, spore dropping tendencies, size, and possibly even shape. However without said "biopsy" and inoculation, via agar wedge, but without being gregarious or clustered in anyway.
Knowing that is possibly lowering the chances for them, aiming for the same shape. I have done this before with ps. cubensis a very long time ago successfully, I did not notice the difference versus multi-spore, non sectored or isolated myeclia

Here it is: If you closely you can STILL see straw from the substrate.


So because this was the last tray at the time I had, regardless of the growing medium or conditions. I decided to make the best of it, and that's where "Num2" came along. Added to agar, water, food dye, organic honey blah blah blah.
*Wolf whistle* lookin' good an Agar.

So then obviously waited about a month, maybe three weeks. Let it colonize, no transfer this time we're going beast mode. :mushroomgrow:
Into the popcorn she goes, and we're waiting now for them to finish colonizing.
Agar wedgie

Updates coming, whenever they grow more, and they seem to take longer when you constantly check on everything!


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Edited by Wedgie (06/09/25 12:46 PM)

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Re: Ps. Galindoi (ATL7) Test Grows [Re: Wedgie]
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Hi again fam-fam

Six days ago here: Exactly 6 days later, pins!
I sprinkled on some dry coarse vermiculite to soak up some excess water, Ps. Galindoi tends to have "matted" mycelia which can be tricky to get to absorb water.

These updates are brutal, ughhh kinda tired lol but I'm doing this for them, not you guys... :awelol:
Soooo get this o_o we all know black truffles, you know, but really?
They're like stuck to the glass and stuff, I don't understand :facepalm: they...
...they Ps. Galindoi does not produce black truffles...
contamination or not? LOL guys figure this out for me, I'm ehh busy.

Will update again when I can! :cheers:
Can provide more photos or information if needed by the way!

Edited by Wedgie (06/10/25 06:55 PM)

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Awesome write-up! :grin:

The Tamp. family needs more love, as do truffle produces as a whole! Such beautiful specimen, and the truffles have always provided some of the cleanest experiences I ever had. :heart:


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cybesa said:
Awesome write-up! :grin:

The Tamp. family needs more love, as do truffle produces as a whole! Such beautiful specimen, and the truffles have always provided some of the cleanest experiences I ever had. :heart:



Thank you Cybesa, the fam really does need a lot more love, way more, I agree the sclerotia is fascinating to study.
I agree the experience is so much more clean and more enjoyable for me personally, everyone's different though and has different experiences!


Okay today's pinning, the same shoebox, here's the shoebox today, pins are getting bigger, a few clusters coming in here and there so far
not as much or fast as I'd like but I'm patient. Scotch tape for size comparison on JCM.


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Edited by Wedgie (06/12/25 06:43 PM)

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Re: Ps. Galindoi (ATL7) Test Grows [Re: ShitdickNancy]
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Beautiful, thank you very much.


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Plinz incoming, todays shots!


This species is freakin' amazing so far and so much fun, I recommend it in places where it's legal!

A truffle from a few months ago


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More pinz, and a new casing layer for the green container!



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Okay update since then, the vermiculite casing minitub is showing progress. After seven days, even tiny pins and hyphae knots appeared.
A personal new record for me with these!

Anyone wondering about Num2 the Tampanensis isolate,
I was waiting for them to finish colonizing then S2B.

So a few days ago I checked how the minitub was, and how it is today!



These have been doing good too, the fruits smell amazing and familiar,
no stones there :crazy: or maybe there is!




Beautiful and thanks to this great and helpful community!
Harvesting is fun but may be a bit more difficult than you think :evil:

Another thing I forgot to mention a long time ago, the scent of the
mycelia, it's, AMAZING!!! :durrhurr: smells like fungi combined toasted grain cereal with marshmallows, or like clean and fresh veggie produce.


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The lightning bolts are called cords.  After the colony colonizes, it prunes back some growth while reinforcing others for nutrient transport.

It's a visual indication of mycelium going from vegetation to consolidation, and eventually, fruiting.

Here's some pans doing it in vivo.



Anyway, cool thread!  I just wanted to camp and talk about lightning bolts.


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Ohhh cords, nice! Honestly, also pretty genius to prune back or hold back some growth for the incoming nutrients.
I often did hear of that visual indicator but didn't know the exact reason why happened.

Ohhh lol cool, in vivo pans with cool lighting, very nice.
Thank you for sharing and awesomely informative! :laugh:
of course, no problem :tongue: if I start a thread on pans, I'll let ya know.

Everyone keep in mind, harvesting is a bit of a chore but worth it! :awelol:
More pics:


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Okay after a week, the shoebox is pinning again, and so is the modified minitub! It started pinning about seven or eight days ago.
Due to hilarious circumstances I had no choice but to use pure coarse vermiculite as a casing layer. AGAIN!
NOT the minitub:


Also I updated the OP and added a few more photos on the bottom row.
Anyway, today's pics!


Ohhh and some random Orissa cubes from like three days ago!


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Okay an update so far!

It went: Agar wedge>Agar>Popcorn>Manure compost>CV casing/pure vermiculite casing.
:caturday:

The Shoebox, 2nd flush. Modified minitub, 1st flush.



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Gorgeous! 😍

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Well done! 🫢🏻


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Re: Ps. Galindoi (ATL7) Test Grows [Re: ShitdickNancy]
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Thank you Nancy! I appreciate that! :handth::tongue2:

Shoebox today pinning, not very much though, looks like its on its last limb.
Fruiting isolates do not normally give much sclerotia do they if any at all correct? I'm not sure about this one. I can use the room though.

:werewolf:
Anyway, there it is, growing like a craycray Tampanensis species, fruiting off plastic and now under tape.



Now for the green minitub, second flush. A little shorter this time!
I'm wondering about this one. There's gonna be "mining" or "digging" needing to be done! Sclerotia, in other words.
IME using all that I've shown, they only last about 4-5 weeks from pins/casing layer added.
Before trichoderma hits that is, then you see the potential problem, trich and edible consumables.
So I use that as an indicator to harvest, any tiny amount. I'm still new to working with this species, bare with me please :crazy: hahah 

Does anyone have any better ways to know? That seems to be the best time for me. Any inputs or advice will be appreciated!






EDIT POST: Almost forgot N2 (Numtoo) the other isolate of the twisty turn specimen.
Shoebox, manure compost, coir, vermiculite, etc. Cased with 50/50, Coir/Verm.
ATL really seems for me, to have the speedy colonizing around the edges first and the center takes longer and the mycelium is more whispy/comatose.
In terrarium since yesterday!



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Just an update :lol: not much growth noticeably though!


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Okay I think this is about as good as they're gonna get for whoever the heck is tuning into this. What's up everyone!! :kingcrankey:

So the mini tub first, here is the second flush. Fruits are less gregarious but bigger in size this time. By the way no wet weight because I don't have a scale in my possession and right now don't need one :crazy: 




Now the shoebox, it looks really bad but it's still going and sending out another flush :lol: so it looks less bad after the newest pinset.
I'm still pretty stoked, this experiment is a lot of learning :love:
Also have new ideas too to add eventually, maybe depending how I feel :laugh:


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Edited by Wedgie (07/02/25 07:32 PM)

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New post, coming in spicy! :awehorny:

So the first minitub photos were ATL7 genetics (I cant say where exactly) 
The shoebox is ATL7 genetics but a mushroom fruiting body isolate one (called FM isolate[forum member])
The new minitub photos are of are FM again. Thinking about going back to
the OG ATL7 (first photos) and trying different substrates :crazy:.
Or mixing the isolate grain spawn, with the liquid culture ATL (from the OP).

Anyhoo here's Numtoo, N2, whatever it is ya wanna call it!
Yes they are the same new shoebox, been in the unmodified
terrarium for about four days now
No pins yet!

The shoebox isolate, was neglected a bit with no light and attention for a few days then I noticed a new flush coming in.

...and now the green container how it looks now!


:awejeez:


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Happy 4th of July everyone :ohwow:
every one of you tuning in this thread, much love for just viewing! :handth:
if you guys have any questions or concerns, let me know and I'll do my best
to answer and address them!


Okay so its actually like the third or fourth flush for the shoebox lol.
Apologies, difficult a bit to keep count since the flushes seem to be "always flushing" also pick out the soft bruised ones, and they're going to the compost pile tomorrow! :crazy:
Same ones from the last post


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