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Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll * 1
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Wood lovers paralysis (WLP) is sometimes associated with mushroom use and I thought a poll would be helpful. Though about this after taking the fainting poll.
Have you experienced WLP?
You may choose only one
What type of mushrooms caused WLP?
You may choose only one
How long after eating mushrooms before WLP was experienced?
You may choose only one
What symptoms did you experience?
You may choose many
How long before you recovered?
You may choose only one
What do you think caused WLP?
You may choose many


Votes accepted from 01/24/23 10:40 PM until the end of time
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll


Edited by Longtimenosee (02/18/23 07:49 PM)

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Longtimenosee]
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Just a bump trying to get more votes. Not many votes yet, probably because WLP is such a rare side effect.

Edited by Longtimenosee (02/03/23 09:04 PM)

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Longtimenosee]
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Bump, Bump, Bump
:kittytakedown:
I know this is not the most interesting subject but it is defiantly real(I have experienced it). If you have also, please vote(If not feel free to vote as well). Trying to understand why this happens, some trends have already appeared in the data(but far to few votes to be conclusive).
:youthemandawg:

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Longtimenosee]
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Never experienced it, but I've only done cubensis.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: nooneman]
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Is wlp the only extra side effect from wood lovers?

I want to start an outdoor grow this year. My brother owns a tree removal business and a chipper. So why not.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Abombs]
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:bump2:bump because djbabyjesus brought up the subject. Please vote if you have experienced wood lovers paralysis.
:trippnballs::flop:

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Longtimenosee]
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Bump. How do I leave votes for separate experiences? Such as a vote for azures and a vote for cyans? I was able to leave one vote for azzies. However I've experienced WLP from azzies 10+ times. Probably Also can we add how many times, general location/substrate they were picked from and actual number of grams consumed per experience. For example I've has cyans from a Seattle park that caused WLP at 7grams and cyans from a park in sellwood Portland that caused it at 1 gram. :mushroom2:

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Longtimenosee]
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Hi,

Just found out that there's a real thing called Wood Lover's Paralysis tonight, via an Australian Psychedelic Society Women's group zoom call.

My thought is, that's like the hero dose of shrooms I got given at the last festival I went to, . . . BUT, I thought the problem was much simpler, (and by morning no problem).

It happens that a few weeks before I took the shrooms, somebody who was a friend of a friend of a friend, .... and who I found out a bit about, . . ..  ... . . . but so she definitely would not want anybody else knowing this about herself, . . . . . she and the mutual friend and their connecting friend, all went along to a, . . . well, in a brothel, . . . with bikies, . . . and group sex etc, etc. and the heroin.  The heroin users did it to one another, that they rip off others, in a pattern what caused all the symptoms of WLP I had.

More explicitly, when heroin users were too hedonistic for their own good, they try to do their habit to themselves, (as if way of managing it, but it only worsened in every example when with heroin), by combining anal penetration, with drug head rush, with orgasm, and then they become killing machines, and often die soon thereafter.

So three persons I knew did that to one another recent, and one of the three, (no need describe what they others got up to), winds up causing those pilates reformer machines to exist, . . . all the pilates reformer machines all on her, and so she's out to get anything what can help her out at keeping reformer pilates practitioners well balanced.  She did herself into her habit with the word "imbalance" meaning she wanted to cause an imbalance in everybody who doesn't use a reformer pilates machine, (the C*%$).

I happened to know they were having a hate me party at the time, (since I advised against sex industry combined with drug habit), (either one at a time and I am fine, but both together and things tend to go bad), . . . and then every time I go to the gym now, . . . but also an example of Wood Lovers Paralysis!

Now, maybe everybody else will think this can't be, this one example, can't prove what all Woodlovers Paralysis everywhere was, . . . and if I were you, I'd agree to suspect my story also.  However, what tends to happen with silly billys imagining sustaining their monetary income while using heroin in a hedonistic pattern, was that there be a limited number of patterns it's possible to do themselves into.  So if one chick I never even met, (but briefly had sex with somebody she still has sex with now), did an "imbalance" upon my body, . . . likely many other addicts have tuned in to her habit, and found a way to feed upon, and thieve from, shroom users.

Besides which the argument then current, was about some shroom use in months previous.  Shroom use of the two persons who connected me with the chick who did the "imbalance" shit.

I have this solved man, before I even knew that WLP was named.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Curaezipirid]
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Curaezipirid said:
I have this solved man, before I even knew that WLP was named.




I have no idea what you are saying 🤷

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: djbabyjesus]
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djbabyjesus said:
Curaezipirid said:
I have this solved man, before I even knew that WLP was named.




I have no idea what you are saying 🤷



I am 100% positive that they do not know what they saying either. It is a wild read.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Kiwi89]
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Why has there never been a link to any cause of this supposed wood lovers paralysis.  What if just maybe it's a symptom of large doses of psilocybin that can effect the brain or body in certain cases.    Now I have heard that there are links or references to this being potentially caused by a bacteria.  However no bacteria has ever been identified or at least linked to these specific effects.    In my opinion it's something to do with high doses which are correlated to wood lovers because they are generally very more potent than the average Psilocybe cubensis which we are all familiar with and can use as a basis for most peoples recollections of a psilocybin trip. What if it's not the woodlover itself but the larger amount of psilocybin that is present?    What do y'all think?

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Curaezipirid]
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Could you maybe edit that post sober or delete it or ask a friend that speaks English to fix it for you because it makes 0 sense. Also, heroin doesn't turn people into sex fiends or killers. You're silly. Are you saying woodlovers paralysis is caused by people putting heroin on shrooms?
If so that's not true. These people usually pick their own fresh. Noone would waste heroin like that, it's very expensive. Also, as an ex heroin addict who has combined shrooms and heroin. I can tell you that it is not like wood lover's paralysis at all. The only thing that happens is the heroin dulls the trip makes you tired and you are so overwhelmingly itchy that it is unpleasant.... Anyways I digress I couldn't help myself after reading that nonsense.

I also am very interested in learning a out WLP because I live in an area where those species grow. I.E. Washington state. I live halfway between Seattle and Longview so I might have to hit up both. What park was that where you picked those baby Jesus, if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: djbabyjesus]
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I think if you showed me that park in Seattle I could figure out what she's saying 😂.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: luteofolius 2.0]
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luteofolius 2.0 said:
Why has there never been a link to any cause of this supposed wood lovers paralysis.  What if just maybe it's a symptom of large doses of psilocybin that can affect the brain or body in certain cases.    Now I have heard that there are links or references to this being potentially caused by a bacteria.  However no bacteria has ever been identified or at least linked to these specific effects.    In my opinion it's something to do with high doses which are correlated to wood lovers because they are generally very more potent than the average Psilocybe cubensis which we are all familiar with and can use as a basis for most peoples recollections of a psilocybin trip. What if it's not the woodlover itself but the larger amount of psilocybin that is present?    What do y'all think?



I think you should read this:

How to Avoid Wood Lovers Paralysis in the PNW and Beyond

Wood Lover Paralysis -- The Antidote

The Cure For Azurescens Paralysis

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Curaezipirid] * 1
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Curaezipirid said:
Hi,

Just found out that there's a real thing called Wood Lover's Paralysis tonight, via an Australian Psychedelic Society Women's group zoom call.

My thought is, that's like the hero dose of shrooms I got given at the last festival I went to, . . . BUT, I thought the problem was much simpler, (and by morning no problem).

It happens that a few weeks before I took the shrooms, somebody who was a friend of a friend of a friend, .... and who I found out a bit about, . . ..  ... . . . but so she definitely would not want anybody else knowing this about herself, . . . . . she and the mutual friend and their connecting friend, all went along to a, . . . well, in a brothel, . . . with bikies, . . . and group sex etc, etc. and the heroin.  The heroin users did it to one another, that they rip off others, in a pattern what caused all the symptoms of WLP I had.

More explicitly, when heroin users were too hedonistic for their own good, they try to do their habit to themselves, (as if way of managing it, but it only worsened in every example when with heroin), by combining anal penetration, with drug head rush, with orgasm, and then they become killing machines, and often die soon thereafter.

So three persons I knew did that to one another recent, and one of the three, (no need describe what they others got up to), winds up causing those pilates reformer machines to exist, . . . all the pilates reformer machines all on her, and so she's out to get anything what can help her out at keeping reformer pilates practitioners well balanced.  She did herself into her habit with the word "imbalance" meaning she wanted to cause an imbalance in everybody who doesn't use a reformer pilates machine, (the C*%$).

I happened to know they were having a hate me party at the time, (since I advised against sex industry combined with drug habit), (either one at a time and I am fine, but both together and things tend to go bad), . . . and then every time I go to the gym now, . . . but also an example of Wood Lovers Paralysis!

Now, maybe everybody else will think this can't be, this one example, can't prove what all Woodlovers Paralysis everywhere was, . . . and if I were you, I'd agree to suspect my story also.  However, what tends to happen with silly billys imagining sustaining their monetary income while using heroin in a hedonistic pattern, was that there be a limited number of patterns it's possible to do themselves into.  So if one chick I never even met, (but briefly had sex with somebody she still has sex with now), did an "imbalance" upon my body, . . . likely many other addicts have tuned in to her habit, and found a way to feed upon, and thieve from, shroom users.

Besides which the argument then current, was about some shroom use in months previous.  Shroom use of the two persons who connected me with the chick who did the "imbalance" shit.

I have this solved man, before I even knew that WLP was named.



Hi
Are they taking new members? Sounds cool


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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: ellamush]
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When I was a teenager, roughly 25 years ago, having only eaten mushies a couple times, I ate a quarter oz of cubes. It was incredibly overwhelming to say the least. Towards what I can only guess was about hour 3 or 4, basically when I was sure I was already dead and was experiencing the after life, I started losing control of my body. It was like my mind and body had been separated and I started having sort of tremors and an extremely weak feeling in my legs.

I remember being on the floor of my bedroom since I couldn't walk, I was trying to leave my house, but couldn't, and I started to get panicked. I began throwing and breaking things like CDs and random stuff, not because I was trying to, but like I literally lost control of what my body was doing. It was pretty scary stuff. This of course got my mom's attention and when she found me I could barely talk and everything that came out was nonsense. My parents ended up taking me to the hospital, but by the time we got there, I started coming down enough to convince them I was going to alright and to not take me in. Something similar has only ever happened to me once since then, but that was on MXE and L, but that's a whole other story...

Not sure if that's WLP, but it sounds similar to what I've read, not a good time!


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Man says, "God, show me and I will believe." God says, "Believe and I will show you."

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: Aiko Aiko]
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yeah its different than that. WLP isn't that scary really and you wouldn't be able to walk or much less throw/break things if it was that bad. It's more about amount of mushrooms you take rather than the potency if that makes sense. Ive had the same level of WLP on high doses and low doses of azures and cyans.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: djbabyjesus] * 1
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Im not convinced that there is such a thing as wood lovers paralysis.  There hasn't been any scientific link to prove what caused it.  I believe it to be a symptom of high doses of psilocybin and or psilocin. Whatever.  But I think that using yourself as a reference to a page that is written up by yourself, with no scientific evidence, laughable.  Anyway if someone wants to get back to me on that lmk.

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: luteofolius 2.0] * 1
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luteofolius 2.0 said:
Im not convinced that there is such a thing as wood lovers paralysis.  There hasn't been any scientific link to prove what caused it.  I believe it to be a symptom of high doses of psilocybin and or psilocin. Whatever.  But I think that using yourself as a reference to a page that is written up by yourself, with no scientific evidence, laughable.  Anyway if someone wants to get back to me on that lmk.



It would be my pleasure :evil:

High doses of psilocybin and or psilocin have been shown to be safe even in higher than normal does and they do not cause WLP. This has been confirmed (look it up). So right away you're spreading misinformation about Psilocybin. WLP is in fact real. So maybe do some research before you post.

I answer this question all the time...too much in fact. Before I make a claim on here, I make positively sure there is a lot of evidence and published research to back it up. I don't post anything with out doing my research first. If you think I haven't provided any scientific evidence, then you clearly haven't read my work. I am arguably one of the most educated people on the topic of WLP and I have been working on this research for over 20 years. I discovered the cure for WLP, developed methods for picking and treating the mushrooms so people don't get WLP. I spend an enormous amount of time around the mouth of the Columbia hunting, hiking and studying mushrooms.

Every youtube video on the topic references my threads from the shroomery. Every video. Shoot, Fresh Cap Mushrooms plagiarized one of my threads and quoted my words as if they were his own. He even has a picture of my threads in his video where he claims it is the only source of info on the internet. Yeah, you heard it here first. Right here on the shroomery.  Kinda hard to believe but its true.


Last I checked... You have provided no conflicting evidence to anything I have said except you think it BS. I think it's safe to say, I have provided an overwhelming amount of evidence, and proof to the fact that WLP exists, and is the result of organophosphate poisoning.

Literally no one has been able to provide any data refuting my claims. Probably because once they figure out there is no other explanation, people tend to stop typing.

You're talking to who one of the few people on the planet that has access to and knows exactly which Azures cause WLP and which ones don't. This is a vital piece of information that the other researchers in Australia didn't have access to. I talked to them last week. They are stuck trying to cross different wood lovers to see if they can get a strain that causes WLP. They are out of funding at this point. They weren't sure why the PisH enzymes were responsible until I sent them the thread I'm including at the bottom. They told me they found 3 identical pairs of PsiH enzymes. I told them how those enzymes are responsible for WLP and am providing the phenotypes to prove it once and for all. They found enough merit in what I am saying, so they connected me with experts here in the states for testing. It's expensive, so you can bet they aren't wasting money on just anyone for any reason. Within a year, we'll have testing done and a definitive answer to what causes WLP.

OR/WA is unique compared to Australia because along the coast, there has been a type of natural selection by the animals that led to finding non-WLP causing phenotypes. No one has reported this phenomenon in Australia. The PNW is the only place on the planet known to have these conditions. Thus the answer of what causes WLP, has been restricted to a person in the PNW. To solve WLP, you needed access to a specific area, specific phenotypes and a lot of education. Only a very experienced hunter with years of experience and a medical background would be able to provide that info. Staments knows, but he isn't talking for whatever reason. It was a needle in a haystack for everyone else.


For the record it's being caused by multiple copies of the PsiH enzyme. 3 in fact. This is where the problem is. Cubes always have one copy...Then there are wood lovers with either 2 or 3 copies.  The ones with 3 copies cause WLP.


Read this until the end. I'll be posting a summarized version of the last part of the thread soon.

How to Avoid Wood Lovers Paralysis in the PNW and Beyond


Let me know what you think :glittershitz:

:vinsue:

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Re: Wood Lovers Paralysis Poll [Re: djbabyjesus]
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