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ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! * 2
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Hello shroomery foragers, I hope everyone has had a bountiful harvest this year and found some new and unique species in unexpected places!!


I am more of a cultivator myself but I do enjoy foraging,
unfortunately based on my geography, I am a bit limited on what I’m able to find.

I also want to state that although I do understand this isn’t the market place forum, I hope that this will be allowed because of the nature of it

  I’M LOOKING FOR SPORE PRINTS!! from species that are not currently able to be cultivated!

So if any of you lucky guys and gals stumble across anything worth while and want to cash in some of the spores while you enjoy your meal of foraged mushies please shoot me a pm with your finds, pics , location description are welcomed

I’m particularly interested in any variation of verified species including but not limited to:

Chanterelle; Gold, Cinnabar, Black, White, blue, etc etc

Hypomyces lactifluorum (lobster mushroom) (tissue sample)
+ Russula brevipes (spores) + Lactifluus piperatus (spores)

Morels

Laetiporus sulphureus    AKA    chicken of the woods
(i have a local find of cincinnatus already and a cloned culture of sulphureus from a vendor, but I would still love new genetic material to play with in my experiments)

Hedgehog
(Preferably Hydnum repandum from Europe but I would also be elated to have Hydnum umbilicatum or any other varieties)

Entoloma abortivum  AKA. Shrimp of the woods
(Actual spore prints only, I already have a tissue sample on agar from a wild find but I never found entoloma fruit bodies only the shrimp mutated form)

Matsutake
(Tricholoma magnivelare from Oregon would be acceptable)

Or any other prized gourmet mushrooms that can’t be cultivated

I would also include any variety of truffles but I doubt I would find that here


I have a lot I can offer in return like cash, cultures, mycology supplies and custom hand made silver items/jewelry and lots of other hobbies I dabble in


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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Where are you located? (Generally speaking)


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: CHUCK.HNTR] * 1
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Out of curiosity, are you saying you're trying to cultivate mycorrhizal-growing species? Do you have a method to actually do this? I'm sure you must know the difficulty of trying to do this by now, but I'd be happy to contribute. I'm on my way to Maine right now and will take plenty of prints for you, and H. lactifluorum samples


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: Moria841] * 1
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There is a method to culture mycorrhizal species on murashigi & Skoogs medium or modified fries medium (plant root culture medium)

I prefer to spend my time reading patents and scholarly articles on the cultivation of exotic gourmet and mycorrhizal species

Yes I’m fully aware of the “impossible task at hand”
However I’m not the type to quit before I start or be easily swayed by the general public opinion.

It’s my belief that if we can culture it on a Petri dish then we can successfully cultivate it, we just haven’t found the necessary fruiting conditions or ideal substrates etc

I would much rather be reserved but optimistic

Too many people hear someone say “it can’t be done” and then they don’t even want to try at that point

But ultimately it would be an experiment and if everything fails 99% it will. I will just go back to the drawing board and start again when I have new ideas

Also it would be cool just to add them to my collection !!

If it makes you feel any better I do run a small gourmet farm and have over a decade of experience not that it means anything but I’m not completely wet behind the ears lol


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
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I’m on the east coast 30 minutes from the Atlantic Ocean

We have some good stuff here but it’s pretty rare, I’m in local foraging groups on social media for my area and it’s always the same mushrooms found like oysters, laetiporus cincinnatus, meripilus sumstinei, and reishi lol



Laetiporus cincinnatus never found sulphureus (I need to go 3 hrs west for that)

Entoloma abortivum (only found once in 20 years I’ve lived here)

Small yellow chanterelle not sure of the exact genetics (only found once in 20 years)

Cantharellus cinnabarinus (Always very small)  (find every 2-3 years)


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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7Suns said:
There is a method to culture mycorrhizal species on murashigi & Skoogs medium or modified fries medium (plant root culture medium)

I prefer to spend my time reading patents and scholarly articles on the cultivation of exotic gourmet and mycorrhizal species

Yes I’m fully aware of the “impossible task at hand”
However I’m not the type to quit before I start or be easily swayed by the general public opinion.

It’s my belief that if we can culture it on a Petri dish then we can successfully cultivate it, we just haven’t found the necessary fruiting conditions or ideal substrates etc

I would much rather be reserved but optimistic

Too many people hear someone say “it can’t be done” and then they don’t even want to try at that point

But ultimately it would be an experiment and if everything fails 99% it will. I will just go back to the drawing board and start again when I have new ideas

Also it would be cool just to add them to my collection !!

If it makes you feel any better I do run a small gourmet farm and have over a decade of experience not that it means anything but I’m not completely wet behind the ears lol



I very much appreciate the enthusiasm and drive to accomplish this research! Very interested to hear about your results. That's a good attitude to have. I'm the same way, it's how I got into mushroom identification in the first place; public notions and opinions implied that I should just stay away from all fungi or risk being poisoned, lol.

I think your judgment is sound and good, and not for nothing, the foraging market (which I recently discovered is much larger than I anticipated) would of course be quick to dismiss any attempts to cultivate these types of mushrooms under controlled conditions.

But just keep in mind that patent literature is usually purposely opaque, so there may very well be even better methods being kept under wraps. Just a thought. Good luck! :mushroom2:


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: Moria841]
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I found a ripe dry truffle poking out from under a root a few days ago.
I painted my mountain bike tires with the spores.
I usually find a few a year though, I'll keep this thread in mind.



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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: Moria841]
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Moria841

I really appreciate your positivity, I wasn’t sure which direction that was going to go, it actually means a lot to me

I know it’s a total crap shoot but it’s been my life’s work for the past 5 years any free time I get I dedicate to running trials and wasting materials and assets to just get a glimpse of what these species favor

Now that I’m thinking about it I wish I had funding for my research, thankfully I make a very good annual salary and can afford a family and hobbies but thinking out loud I might consider doing a podcast, YouTube channel where I introduce the species of interest for the week or month and I run multiple trial runs on different media and different fruiting conditions/methods and allow the audience to take votes on what variables to introduce each batch, and allow patrons to support my channels….

Idk just a thought, I’m sure there would be some enthusiasts who would definitely follow it and as a whole I think we could all benefit from my time and money wasted because it might eventually lead to discover or inspire someone else to make the discovery, just like how I use others data from those who blazed the trails before me, knowledge compounds so even our failures are never truly a waste unless you don’t learn anything from them


And yes I’m aware about patent literature Dr owers patent on morel cultivation is repugnant and oblique at best

Luckily I do have a slight advantage when it involves deciphering legaleses, I am a master license holder and code enforcement for certain trade related work, with my primary discipline in the NEC and FAA, CFR


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: thirdeyewild]
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thirdeyewild said:
I found a ripe dry truffle poking out from under a root a few days ago.
I painted my mountain bike tires with the spores.
I usually find a few a year though, I'll keep this thread in mind.





Do you know what species it was if you had to take a guess?

I’m curious because it sounds more realistically to be a pigskin earth ball 

https://www.google.com/search?q=pigskin+earthball&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

It’s not extremely common to find truffles above ground


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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No they are not puffballs but I could not tell you the species.

I find them under roots where the heavy rains have washed the covering soil away. Not growing above ground .


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: thirdeyewild]
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thirdeyewild said:
No they are not puffballs but I could not tell you the species.

I find them under roots where the heavy rains have washed the covering soil away. Not growing above ground .



Ok I gotcha, next time you find some update me with pics and what trees it associated with


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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:thumbup:

I know of some Gomphus clavatus about to sporelate.



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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: thirdeyewild]
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thirdeyewild said:
:thumbup:

I know of some Gomphus clavatus about to sporelate.





Not exactly what I’m after but I’m game, even if it’s just to add to the collection, print it and shoot me a pm :thumbsup:


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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Will do. I find a lot of the things on your list but the foraging season is still 4-6 weeks away here.


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: thirdeyewild]
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Just getting in on this thread.
I’ll find something for you this summer/ fall

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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: Pluviophile]
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Pluviophile said:
Just getting in on this thread.
I’ll find something for you this summer/ fall



I would love that, thank you :myman:


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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Bumping the thread

Anyone finding anything good?


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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Attempting to print these 4 as we speak. I always have trouble getting prints from chants though so no promises with those.

I wish I had seen this a week before you posted it; I have hedgehogs, lobsters, russula, ect, but I had already dried them; don’t know if samples from those would be useful to you or not. I’ll still keep an eye out though. The shrimp should start popping out soon, but I won’t see morels until next spring.


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
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Icyurmt said:


Attempting to print these 4 as we speak. I always have trouble getting prints from chants though so no promises with those.

I wish I had seen this a week before you posted it; I have hedgehogs, lobsters, russula, ect, but I had already dried them; don’t know if samples from those would be useful to you or not. I’ll still keep an eye out though. The shrimp should start popping out soon, but I won’t see morels until next spring.




My panties just got wet !! Omg beautiful haul and such verity, yes I would still be interested in dried samples but they are more of a pain in the ass because I have to use M&S medium with heat sensitive antibiotic, and try to compare science journal photos of the correct mycelium under magnification with the cultured samples until I get something viable,

it’s not impossible but it does add some extra steps to the challenge but I’m game if you’re willing to part with some specimens, as previously stated you will be compensated and if there’s anything you want to trade for let me know

Please label everything to the best of your abilities with its corresponding Latin name for more precise research, for example there are 3 variations of “yellow foot” chanterelles, each have a different Latin name, one of them prefers basic limey soil the other prefers slightly acidic wet bog soil but going off the common name would invalidate any research without knowledge of its specific preference for optimal growth


Also the list above isn’t all inclusive or a strict guideline, im open to any species of interest as long as it has some kind of value as a medicinal or edible species, even things I already have if you have a subspecies or variant like the different types of chicken of the woods I think there’s 5 different varieties if I remember correctly


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Re: ATTENTION ALL FORAGERS PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: 7Suns]
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Quote:
it’s not impossible but it does add some extra steps to the challenge but I’m game if you’re willing to part with some specimens, as previously stated you will be compensated and if there’s anything you want to trade for let me know

Please label everything to the best of your abilities with its corresponding Latin name for more precise research



We can see what others come up with and if I spot them again by the end of the season, but if nothing better shows up you’re welcome to samples. I’m not looking for anything in return, happy to help endeavors like this.

Craterellus ignicolor, Craterellus fallax, Cantharellus lateritius, Laetiporus sulphureus I believe are the 4 I found today. I’ll be sure to label the prints with name, date, and location.


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