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Ololiuqui
    #2831375 - 06/26/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Just started looking around on erowid and there isn't any specific doses on the website, is it the same as morning glory, cause i know the seeds look different, Im pretty sure its Ololiuqui and not morning glory, i live in jupiter FL., and it was a vine growing on a fence close to me, so i picked about 100 seeds (thats all i could find) and wanted to try them, any help on how much i should take would help.I plan on grinding them and putting them in pill capsuls responce asap would be great thanks.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2833313 - 06/27/04 02:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

25 seeds should work OK...but true ololiuqui are brown, oval, small seeds with fuzzy coat, is that what you have?


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2833358 - 06/27/04 02:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I heard they were stonger than mg and maybe stronger than hbwr. I have a rivea corymbosa (the other name for it) in my back yard but it has never flowered or grown very well. I also have 2 seedlings. Anybody else grow this?

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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834200 - 06/27/04 07:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The seeds are an oval shape, they look like fat morning glory seeds, they are not as pointed as morning glory, but they don't have a fuzzy cover. they are about the size of a pencil eraser. all the pictures i have seen of ololiuqui seeds look just like this. Im almost possative they are Ololiuqui, anyone sure of a dosage??


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834254 - 06/27/04 07:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

rivea corymobosa seeds are not nearly the size of a pencil eraser.they are eliptical shaped though you were right about that.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: dwarves475]
    #2834573 - 06/27/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

they are 3/8" long and 1/4 "wide they are brown, and smooth on the outside, they have to be Ololiuqui, if they are not, i have no clue what else they could be


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834654 - 06/27/04 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

http://shroomery.org/forums/showflat-Number-1378570.html

The seeds and seed pods look just like these, but none are white they are all brown


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834681 - 06/27/04 10:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have done this before out of curiosity and will attest that the experience is really crappy. You will stay naseous through most of the experience. I have tried Ololiuqui and Morning Glory, and while Ololiuqui is stronger they both give the same quality experience.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2834737 - 06/27/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well, from what i have read people have different experiances, some feel no nausia at all, so i think i will at least try it, can anyone advise on good doses, and the best way to ingest. is 25 seeds ok?

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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834816 - 06/27/04 11:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

concidering the seeds are fresh, I would say that if you have the real deal that would be a good starting dose...it probably won't be the strongest trip but should give you a good idea of what you have. I've tried the seeds a couple times, but with a batch that I think was somewhat old, and got no significant results...my highest dose ended up being like 25 seeds and I got nothing. I mixed a cold water extraction of about that many seeds with a hit of some weak acid once too and got a very low level acid trip that lasted longer than one of similar intensity normally would. I've had very good experiences with morning glory however and so I know the personality of an LSA trip fairly well and I'v yet to have significant experiences with these seeds, but I'm blaming it on old batches and low dosages and I hope to have a very good experience with these seeds in the future. Good luck man.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834822 - 06/27/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

25 is a safe start, I did 50. Cold water extraction doesn't work well, boil and filter.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2834860 - 06/28/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

These should be fresh, like i said, i picked them right off the vine, so they can't be very old. Thanks for all your help, i will be trying these tomarrow night, I guess by grinding and boiling the seeds, but after it cools, do i dring the liquid and the crushed seeds as well?

Thanks for all you help, Im glad i asked, cause the Ololiuqui is sort of mixed in with the morning glory on Erowid, good thing i didn't take all 100 of them.
Thanks again guys
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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834953 - 06/28/04 12:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

is boiling really that effective? LSA isn't heat sensitive at all? and I suspect your right about the cold water extraction being ineffective, I ground the seeds up slightly and and put them inside of a coffee filter and then tied it shut then put that in a bottle of water for about two days and the results were as I described.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2834978 - 06/28/04 12:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Im not sure, i have heard so many differen't ways, but most are involving, i had originally planned of grinding the seeds and just putting them in pill capsuls, is this method ok, is it as effective?


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: blujack]
    #2835000 - 06/28/04 01:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It worked for me were cold water did not. While LSA is not very water soluble it breaks down the solids by rupturing cell walls. A blender with cold water may be as effective for this reason. But grinding and soaking as the Indians reporedly did was not effectice. I suspect that technique was use with much larger batches than 25 - 50 seeds.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2836228 - 06/28/04 01:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah you're probably right about that, but so many tryptamines break down under heat (psilocybin, psilocin, LSD) that I wonder whether or not LSA is...of course that could be a poor assumption on my part.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Hooty]
    #2836701 - 06/28/04 04:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

so, should i not ingest the seed powder, should i just drink the liquid?


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