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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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good for you :thumbup:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
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you can do it too if you would like.

just believe.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
Holy shit can someone please remove durian’s posting privileges in this thread!?!?


Yeah echo chambers are dope :rolleyes:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus]
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longbus said:
koods said:
Holy shit can someone please remove durian’s posting privileges in this thread!?!?


Yeah echo chambers are dope :rolleyes:


You must speak retard if you understand that gibberish

Two kids in usa catch the monkeypox

https://globalnews.ca/news/9010119/2-children-in-u-s-diagnosed-with-monkeypox-health-officials-say/?utm_source=GlobalNews&utm_medium=Facebook

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: viraldrome] * 2
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Aside from radiation, viruses are one of the main motivating factors for evolution. Both have downsides obviously as well, but it's something to remember. We may not see it for a really long time... but rarely, if ever, is something all bad from all points of view.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: hummingbird] * 1
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The majority of mutations in eukaryotes are due to replication errors.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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It's relevant to new variants of historical plagues.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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durian_2008 said:
The slippery, slippery slope of bodily autonomy is not going to end at masking and quarantining the 99%+ of healthy people.
https://www.ournewearthnews.com/2022/06/10/elementary-school-announces-plans-to-microchip-children-in-their-brains/


koods said:
Holy shit can someone please remove durian’s posting privileges in this thread!?!?


I sincerely believe that Operation Warp Speed would segue into the WEF social credit system.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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koods said:
Holy shit can someone please remove durian’s posting privileges in this thread!?!?



Wow, times are changing. I agree with you here. I'm open to alternative ideas, but much of what he posts is babbling nonsense shadow government nonsense.





thealienthatategod said:
Tulipslave said:
Asante said:
Imagine that in 10 years, everybody who had omicron is infertile,

or, som,e viruses are associated with cancer, imagine thar half the people who get covid develop an obscure form if leukemia, just like aids lead to karposi sarcoma spots.




I'm glad you get the concept.


Wait til they find that covid, in some people, is found to have laid dormant only to reactivate later.




Wait til they start finding coinfections like with Lyme.


And as you say,  wait til they start finding uncommon and specific illnesses/cancers related to specific variants.



People are so shortsighted and ignorant.


shouldn't this kind of speculation be taken to the conspiracy forum?

why the double standard, people are only allowed to speculate in this thread if it aligns with the status quo about covid-19?

"People are so shortsighted and ignorant."  <----- someone could say the same thing about those that rushed to the covid-19 vaccination.

also, bc you are free to speculate, some further speculation, some in the medical community have speculated that advese effects from vacination will later on be blamed on the long term effects of covid-19.




First and foremost, I'm not vaccinated,  and for my own reasons. Nothing outside of reality or being discussed on Joe Rogan and Alex Jones bullshit media.



I also agree that none of these vaccines have been thoroughly studied over a significant enough length of time. In other words, it's large scale "emergency authorized" experimentation with little follow up or oversight by the medical establishment.

None of that is conspiracy. It's simple fact many would choose to interpret as conspiracy. One can hold an idea on something without burrowing down the rabbit hole of what ifs.


My personal opinion is that the vaccines also carry some health risk in the long term. However, I have some research to do into NovaVax, as I feel it may have less risk that could be worth the benefits against covid-19.




Okay, you call it speculation bordering on conspiracy, my comments on latent and longterm effects of Covid. But there is growing evidence,  in the medical community,  of vascular degradation after one or more infections of covid-19.  Heart and lung issues have also been prevalent. This is out there and easily findable.


Two years or a little less ago around the second or third known variant, there were already national news stories of rare individuals having covid for months at a time, not just a singular short term bout with the virus leaving the body. The same for multiple reinfections and the beginning of what the medical establishment deemed "breakthrough" cases, which also included.....surprise, surprise, vaccinated and boosted people being infected.......



I am speculating,  as was Asante, as to the scope of what may be found.  However, this is a fairly radical organism with the ability to adapt what it attacks and how. Similarities are.being drawn to it and both Lyme and syphilis.  Both organisms that bed down in the body and wreak a variety of havocs upon the body over time.


Speculation yes, but well within reason based on other similar organisms.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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Two years or a little less ago around the second or third known variant, there were already national news stories of rare individuals having covid for months at a time, not just a singular short term bout with the virus leaving the body. The same for multiple reinfections and the beginning of what the medical establishment deemed "breakthrough" cases


A friends daughter in law had covid three times. The first two were relatively mild, but the third time she almost had to go to the hospital. Omicron was the second deadliest wave, despite widespread immunity. BA.5 is probably the most dangerous and infectious variant. I would not want to be facing this wave with no previous infection and no vaccination.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The majority of mutations in eukaryotes are due to replication errors.


Should it actually be considered an error if the mutation is beneficial to the organism though?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: hummingbird]
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Yes


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Why?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: hummingbird]
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Because it’s a mistake.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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What if it's not?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: hummingbird]
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Then you can thank G-d for it

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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relative to "emergency authorized" experimentation with little follow up or oversight by the medical establishment, is it a rabbit hole to say the cdc has withheld data, the cdc is an overtly a political organization, the cdc has engaged in scientific fraud by withholding key epidemiologic data and formatting information for political purposes?

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but there is growing evidence,  in the medical community,  of vascular degradation after one or more infections of covid-19.

 

there is also evidence to the contrary, that this could be caused by something else.  is that a rabbit hole?  how do you know that you are not mistaken about the correlation?  are you seeing what is obvious and what is being fed to you?  is there a way that you can say with absolute certainty that the latent and long term effects that you think are caused by covid-19 were actually caused by covid-19? do you have data delineating the clear mechanistic interaction between covid-19 and the vascular degradation?  have you explored other possible mechanisms?

humans live with a number of devastating diseases, whose origins are unknown, whose presence people take for granted, and no longer question.  the existence of covid-19 empowers people to accept this non-questioning status quo as they lose their vitality, as if it is a part of normal life.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave] * 2
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Tulipslave said:
I also agree that none of these vaccines have been thoroughly studied over a significant enough length of time. In other words, it's large scale "emergency authorized" experimentation with little follow up or oversight by the medical establishment.

None of that is conspiracy. It's simple fact many would choose to interpret as conspiracy. One can hold an idea on something without burrowing down the rabbit hole of what ifs.


My personal opinion is that the vaccines also carry some health risk in the long term. However, I have some research to do into NovaVax, as I feel it may have less risk that could be worth the benefits against covid-19.



I think you might be the first unvaccinated person in this thread who explained their reasoning without quoting a single grifter or disproven conspiracy.

I'm curious to understand your reasoning though, or how deeply you've thought about it. Why do you think the people who are experts in the field, highly trained on the science behind the vaccines, medicine, human physiology etc, and people who are highly educated in general (and better suited to analyze clinical and scientific research) are vaccinated at such a high rate?

I understand your point of view and I think a lot of people in this thread had similar views when the vaccines were being developed. Just for fun I looked back at some of my posts from the end of 2020 and my thoughts were basically that as a healthcare worker I was going to be guinea pig for the shots either way, so I would just hope for the best. I was also living with someone immunocompromised and spending my days working with Covid patients though, so I was willing to take more of a risk for the protection.

We now have years of clinical data on what is now likely the most well studied medical intervention in human history, with not a single indication of any possible mechanism of action for mysterious "long term side effects" to pop up down the line. It's not a drug that is taken regularly and impacts homeostasis in the long term, it's mRNA that the body processes fairly quickly.  The rare negative reactions have been observable in that initial period after vaccination, and most negative reactions have been the results of dysregulated immune responses, which almost certainly would have happened in that person during infection itself... and likely have been worse. The top scientists in the world didn't just yell YOLO and pop some moderna juice into their arms, they took the time to understand the science and make the best choice from the substantial amount of data available.

If you get the virus while unvaccinated (assuming you haven't had it yet and have no immunity), it will be much more likely to result in a worse infection that takes longer to clear and is far more likely to travel beyond your upper respiratory tract than if you were vaccinated... which is why being vaccinated gives you substantial protection against a lot of what's popping up now as long Covid. Even people with mild or asymptomatic infections can get long Covid because symptoms don't always signal what the virus is doing inside of you (symptoms are actually often you feeling your body's immune response to the virus, not the virus causing damage), and a lack of symptoms doesn't mean your body is free of the virus or any of the many downstream effects it can trigger. When you have immunity your body is more sensitive at detecting the invader and already has the blueprint to fight it off, which it does quickly, so you're less much likely to see the secondary long covid symptoms.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: WyoMX]
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https://rumble.com/vnpw33-michael-yeadon-fertility-and-the-jab-planet-lockdown.html

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In this brief segment Michael Yeadon addresses his possible effect the Covid vaccines could have female fertility. In the fall of 2020 he co wrote a letter to the European regulatory authority outlining these concerns and was ignored. He also covers some of the basic issues around uninformed involvement in medical procedures and the broader ethical issue surrounding the Covid-19 vaccination campaign.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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relative to "emergency authorized" experimentation with little follow up or oversight by the medical establishment, is it a rabbit hole to say the cdc has withheld data, the cdc is an overtly a political organization, the cdc has engaged in scientific fraud by withholding key epidemiologic data and formatting information for political purposes?


You sound confused. The CDC doesn’t regulate vaccines


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