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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27853153 - 07/07/22 07:59 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

koods said:

Seeing Twitter posts from ER and other docs saying this BA.5 variant is causing more serious illnesses, and that the numbers are growing quickly. Even people who had covid in the past few months are getting reinfected. Case numbers are almost useless at this point. Very few people are getting reportable testing done. Hospitalizations are starting to spike.

Bought a stack of corona tests for 1 buck apiece, and nitrile gloves for hugging up the big monkey man :sad:

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i suspect shortages in these departments, or at least price hikes.

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#27853160 - 07/07/22 08:08 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Case numbers have been useless for a long time. I only know two people who have reported their status. This shit is pretty much with us indefinitely now as a cold that can be anywhere from very mild to mildly severe. Until/unless they can develop a more generalized vaccine that works against a broader array of variations. We* fucked away most chances of ever reaching herd immunity for the first time in spring&summer of 2020 and we* fucked any chances of herd immunity a second time by not all immediately going and getting vaccinated.

It certainly didn't help that the guy the news was calling Mr President was asking reporters whether it might be a good idea to inject disinfectant or radiation as if it were some brilliant idea he actually believed that no one else had ever had

*Some of us much more so than others, mind you

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27853163 - 07/07/22 08:12 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Since I just had it a few weeks ago and I'm heading back in to The fray, so to speak, how long it takes me to get it again might speak to potential length of natural immunity. I swear to God it better be a while because that shit fucked up an entire week of my year and I'll be damned if I have that happen more than once a year if even that

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#27853186 - 07/07/22 08:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

morrowasted said:

Case numbers have been useless for a long time. I only know two people who have reported their status. This shit is pretty much with us indefinitely now as a cold that can be anywhere from very mild to mildly severe. Until/unless they can develop a more generalized vaccine that works against a broader array of variations. We* fucked away most chances of ever reaching herd immunity for the first time in spring&summer of 2020 and we* fucked any chances of herd immunity a second time by not all immediately going and getting vaccinated.

It certainly didn't help that the guy the news was calling Mr President was asking reporters weather it might be a good idea to inject disinfectant or radiation as if it were some brilliant idea he actually believed that no one else had ever had

*Some of us much more so than others, mind you

I think it will behave like most natural systems and it will oscillate with progressively less amplitude until it reaches a fairly steady state. I think all the pre-omicron variants are all extinct at this point, so we really need to switch to omicron based vaccines and monoclonals. I think an omicron based booster would be very helpful at this point.

Outbreaks won’t be driven so much by waves of community spread but by the time elapsed between infections in individuals.

Sometimes i wonder if I’m not setting up for something bad going this long without ever getting infected. On the other hand, I I was sick for a week every six months that’s probably worse

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27853201 - 07/07/22 08:51 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Best of luck to you. Everyone I know who got covid this summer (which is a lot, ranging between ages 6 and 75, all vaccinated), made it through unscathed, though we definitely all got sick. I feel more or less the same as i did before i got it.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27853203 - 07/07/22 08:53 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

My mom has covid. It is pretty mild for covid.

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#27853207 - 07/07/22 08:54 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

koods said:

I think it will behave like most natural systems and it will oscillate with progressively less amplitude until it reaches a fairly steady state.

With this in mind, the longer you stay disease free the less of a biggie your infection will be if you take your boosters.

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#27853215 - 07/07/22 09:00 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I worry more about my mom who is 87 and hasn’t had covid. You don’t know how someone handles covid until they get it and although I’m pretty convinced based on her exposures that she’s got decent natural resistance to infection,
Who knows what happens once an infection takes hold.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27853218 - 07/07/22 09:01 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Asante said:

koods said:

I think it will behave like most natural systems and it will oscillate with progressively less amplitude until it reaches a fairly steady state.

With this in mind, the longer you stay disease free the less of a biggie your infection will be if you take your boosters.

We need the omicron based boosters. Shit should have been in the works and ready by now.

I’m going on nine months since I got my last shot and I don’t plan on getting another one until they update them

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#27853228 - 07/07/22 09:13 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that its foolish, its like not updating the flu shot.

More people have betamax than have beta variant.

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#27853232 - 07/07/22 09:14 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

morrowasted said:

I also caught covid in December right at the beginning of omicron. It got me sick- I spiked a fever- but I was fully recovered within 24 hours.

I'm really hoping I've got enough antibodies to avoid catching it for longer than 6 months this time

You probably had delta. At the beginning of omicron delta was still the most prevalent variant for a few weeks. That would explain why it was mild because you were getting a lot of help from the vaccine, and then that delta infection really wouldn’t have helped very much preventing your recent omicron.

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#27853240 - 07/07/22 09:19 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Asante said:

I agree that its foolish, its like not updating the flu shot.

More people have betamax than have beta variant.

I think i read that the omicron shots would also contain beta variant spike. I think the idea is that omicron evolved from beta so whatever reservoir omicron came from could produce another surprise variant but it would most likely have evolved from beta.

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#27853246 - 07/07/22 09:27 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I hope for a super infectious near inconsequential variant driving all others extinct followed by a lifetime vaccine and worldwide eradication program like with smallpox.

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#27853263 - 07/07/22 09:45 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

The problem is that it’s probably not possible to create decent neutralizing immunity to a super contagious respiratory virus. The body can only accommodate a certain level of antibodies for any particular virus. There are so many different antigens we need to have antibodies for, maintaining neutralizing levels for everything would turn our blood and lymph into protein sludge. Apparently you can maintain higher levels of antibodies in respiratory mucosa if you directly vaccinate respiratory tissue.

Vaccines work better for a virus like smallpox because the disease disseminates through the body in blood and the blood is a good place for antibodies to neutralize viruses. Respiratory epithelial tissue is somewhat inaccessible to circulating antibodies. And the other problem is coronaviruses mutate at a rate orders of magnitude faster than dna based pox viruses. The covid virus has changed more in one year than smallpox changed in millennia.

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#27853267 - 07/07/22 09:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

So vaccination by inhaler?

If it had no temperature requirements, people could get an inhaler in the mail, break the capsule inside and suck. That would greatly simplify things.

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#27853280 - 07/07/22 09:59 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.futurity.org/covid-19-vaccines-2762322-2/

There is a very commonly used inhaled flu vaccine in the us

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#27853328 - 07/07/22 11:10 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

koods said:

morrowasted said:

I also caught covid in December right at the beginning of omicron. It got me sick- I spiked a fever- but I was fully recovered within 24 hours.

I'm really hoping I've got enough antibodies to avoid catching it for longer than 6 months this time

You probably had delta. At the beginning of omicron delta was still the most prevalent variant for a few weeks. That would explain why it was mild because you were getting a lot of help from the vaccine, and then that delta infection really wouldn’t have helped very much preventing your recent omicron.

Certainly possible. It was right in that transition period

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#27854365 - 07/08/22 08:37 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

morrowasted said:

Best of luck to you. Everyone I know who got covid this summer (which is a lot, ranging between ages 6 and 75, all vaccinated), made it through unscathed, though we definitely all got sick. I feel more or less the same as i did before i got it.

You say this now. Wait 1-5 years for the "long-term" after effects.

Our reported rates are again dropping, but CA as a whole is on the rise again. With as much tourism as we have here, it'll be 2-4 weeks before we see our next reported number spike.

Lots of people in the community down here are getting it, though. We'll be masked at market today.

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#27854508 - 07/08/22 10:54 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

It's considered paranoid for a cynic to say how virions or exosomes can be spread in the detritus of the great unwashed.

But, ethical and intelligent for the establishment to discuss a vaccine that spreads itself -- sometimes, in mosquitoes.

Shedding is more or less acceptable, credible.

Except, that would not require regimists or so much security theater.

After the Blue Bonnet Icream licking challenge and Californians being allowed to steal up to $1,000 and not being pursued, I think your vaccination status will be used to open the refrigerator door or to enter crowded places.
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#27854954 - 07/08/22 04:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

How them boosters working? Heard 93% efficiency..pftttt

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