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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It’s pretty amazing that the only age group where covid was the leading cause of death was 44-54 in 2021.





I'm in that demographic and I still don't know anyone who died from covid, though there are a few recent ones where no one says what happened and i don't want to be that ghoul who asks how someone died. I would think "leading cause" would mean I would know someone who died, maybe i just don't know enough people.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: viraldrome]
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It was like 16% of deaths in that age group Jan-Oct, so even if you knew two or three deaths in that age group, you’d still be more likely to not know someone who died of covid.

This study missed a lot of the delta wave and all of omicron. But it really shows how the relative increase of covid deaths from 2020 to 2021 was very age dependent, younger age groups had 2-3 times as many covid deaths in 2021, middle age has 1-2x as many and the elderly had fewer deaths in 2021. I suspect this is almost entirely due to vaccination rates. If we didn’t have vaccines available when they were 2021 would have been a lot worse.

Edited by koods (07/16/22 04:24 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Can we make this a covid AND monkeypox thread?

Monkeypox cases have doubled in the US in three days to over 1,400. That may be a function of commercial testing coming online, but currently the positivity rate for monkeypox tests is nearly 40%.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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We HAVE a monkeypox thread, even set up with a 196 day advancve warning that in 200 days the pandemic would be declared.



Asante said:
as of yesterday 12,556 cases outside of its endemic area, smallpox vaccines aere getting depleted in the US.

The smallpox pandemic that wasnt is becoming the pox pandemic that is.







I apologize to God for lighthearted sentiments in the direction andf ask for a breakthrough in overcoming this.

Unfolder of the All :bigbang:  please fold on this pandemic.

You made your point, forgive those asking to make haste with it.

Thank you for the 200 day public warning and thank you for undershooting it with the facts.






That said, the calling of Covid seasons is a bit arbitrary due to the process being diffuse and we are not far from the fall.


Covid has a new variant taking the world by storm, more and more people catch Monkeypox, if the majority of regular contributors of thius thread is in favor, we could make a 4th installment that combines covid and monkeypox.

A monkeypox thread might soon be sticky material, two stickied pandemic threads are too damn depressing, i think creating one Pandemic Thread is the way to go.


How do people feel?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: viraldrome]
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viraldrome said: maybe i just don't know enough people.



Quite possibly.

I also don't know anyone who's died from Covid. But once things relaxed a bit and I started circulating and seeing more people again, I then began to hear about their immediate relatives who had passed away.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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koods said:
...you don’t need to regulate each persons vaccine on an individual basis.




durian_2008 said:
They are not specifically intended for harm.




It's an unregulated experiment.

Even if no kaiju comes out of the wooodwork.

Holy rollers will hoot, holler, and grift.

Every last urban legend could have been answered in a clinical way, where academical discussions are held -- without some cheesy fact checker that pops up in private conversations.

You've had a serious problem with optics, during countless, teachable moments.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: ObliviousSeeker]
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Here we go again

https://www.wtnh.com/news/new-york-reports-1st-us-polio-case-in-nearly-a-decade/amp/

Quote:
NEW YORK (AP) — An unvaccinated young adult from New York recently contracted polio, the first U.S. case in nearly a decade, health officials said Thursday.

Officials said the patient, who lives in Rockland County, had developed paralysis. The person developed symptoms a month ago and did not recently travel outside the country, county health officials said.



I don’t think people understand that polio is almost certainly endemic in many places and the vaccine does not prevent infection, it only prevents serious illness. If we looked for polio in wastewater it would probably be shocking.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/21/22 06:50 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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Best typo ever



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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What happened. I am confused.



is the fear that corona virus could kill you OVER EXASPERATED ASTILLL?



YES





If you get the corona virus 99+ percent of the time you'll survive and be fine

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Nice typo…:thumbup:

:kidsmirk:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
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The dude decided to leave it. Said everyone needed a laugh.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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The more you know:themoreyouknow:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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Fiery said:
What happened. I am confused.



is the fear that corona virus could kill you OVER EXASPERATED ASTILLL?



YES





If you get the corona virus 99+ percent of the time you'll survive and be fine





Bullshit. The after effects of Covid are still largely unknown. We're still much nearer the start line than any, now obviously improbable,  finish line.


It's not a matter of dying immediately,  it's all the other health issues that are and will continue to arise, especially related to heart, lungs, and vascular systems

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
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Imagine that in 10 years, everybody who had omicron is infertile,

or, som,e viruses are associated with cancer, imagine thar half the people who get covid develop an obscure form if leukemia, just like aids lead to karposi sarcoma spots.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
Imagine that in 10 years, everybody who had omicron is infertile,

or, som,e viruses are associated with cancer, imagine thar half the people who get covid develop an obscure form if leukemia, just like aids lead to karposi sarcoma spots.





I'm glad you get the concept.


Wait til they find that covid, in some people, is found to have laid dormant only to reactivate later.




Wait til they start finding coinfections like with Lyme.


And as you say,  wait til they start finding uncommon and specific illnesses/cancers related to specific variants.



People are so shortsighted and ignorant.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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I got the concept in jan 2020 when i stickied the first incarnation of this thread, causing some strain on the members and the staff. But how right we were, that early period everybody active in that thread had better intel than the president because we all researched independently in a nonpartisan way. We were taking supplies weeks before the toilet paper crazes.

Now everybody knows its a biggie but back then we were pioneers.

In the first winter of covid the admin team even gave every single shroomerite a 3 month supporter account to ease the lockdown and be safer.

Shroomery history.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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paraphrased --
'Imagine that in 10 years, everybody who had omicron (vaccine) is infertile,

or, som,e (vaccines) are associated with cancer, imagine thar half the people who get covid (vaccine) develop an obscure form if leukemia, just like aids lead to karposi sarcoma spots.'

I can be civil but marvel at the way people read the same data set and still arrive at diametrically opposite conclusions.

I am not particularly gifted at interpreting coded speech, nor sometimes-ghoulish, Freudian slips.

The formal establishment is openly in favor of population control and makes no attempt at hiding it.

Edited by durian_2008 (07/22/22 12:36 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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This is all new and it developed into a major public issue very quickly. Anytime politics starts taking the stage away from scientists, there's going to be some major fuck-ups. All-in-all, this has been a really impressive response to a novel threat.




Tulipslave said:
...

Wait til they find that covid, in some people, is found to have laid dormant only to reactivate later.




Wait til they start finding coinfections like with Lyme.


And as you say,  wait til they start finding uncommon and specific illnesses/cancers related to specific variants.



People are so shortsighted and ignorant.




There's lots of this already turning up. prolonged infection is suspected in some of the long covid. last thing I read, there was still some viral RNA being found in people that had long covid, suggesting active replication of the virus. There are definitely allllll kinds of weird autoimmune conditions showing up after infection too. Some of those can do more damage than the primary infection, some go away after a while, and some leave lasting damage. Covid has a broad tissue tropism, it can have major effects on lots of different organ systems, and it's prevalence is way high, so there's a good chance of it interacting with other infections agents or medical conditions to create new illnesses that haven't been seen before.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
This is all new and it developed into a major public issue very quickly. Anytime politics starts taking the stage away from scientists...



The news is a captured industry. You are not allowed to own your own media outlet, outrightly. Yet, you believe that these controversies are populist in origin. 



State scientists were allowed schooling based on reverse prejudices and proactively censor social media, with automated fact checks.



Most of these are not real scientists or doctors, capable of executive function.

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