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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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women are experiencing menstrual cycle abnormalities after covid-19 vaccination


are they experiencing those variations after infection? How frequently? It's possible for immune or steroid or any kind of DNA altering thing to have a temporary effect on gametes. Which takes us back to the point that the vaccines are intended to prevent illness, which, in addition to also altering menstrual cycles, may cause far worse and even acutely fatal complications. Missing a period is a little inconvenient


My girlfriend got her vaccinations and there were no noticeable changes in her cycle

Edit: I'm just going to throw this out there too. I'm in my thirties and I've been in a lot of relationships and menstrual cycles are sensitive to just about everything. but slight changes in flow, onset, or duration are nothing to be alarmed about even if they are inconvenient. Do you have any idea how many medical interventions that have been long accepted cause some kind of change or another to womens' cycles?

Edited by morrowasted (07/12/22 09:25 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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Any immune system activity can cause menstruation changes. It’s extremely common in general.

It’s important to remember that late term pregnancy is a major covid comorbidity. A doctor friend has delivered babies to mothers with covid who later died


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/12/22 09:25 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/new-york-city-monkeypox-vaccine-website-crashes-due-demand

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New York City made another batch of monkeypox vaccines available on Tuesday but the website for appointments crashed within minutes due to sky-high demand, health officials said



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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The feedback system between immune and reproductive organs in general is very fine tuned. they need to be able to use their hormones so tell their immune systems to shut the fuck up for a while instead of attacking their embryos/fetuses on the 'mistaken notion' that the embryo/fetus represents a gigantic infection. Or if you prefer, an organ transplant

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2022/07/11/ba275-a-dark-horse-in-the-covid-pandemic/?sh=170b7dd15985


Decently detailed article discussing the main current variants

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
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women are experiencing menstrual cycle abnormalities after covid-19 vaccination


are they experiencing those variations after infection? How frequently? It's possible for immune or steroid or any kind of DNA altering thing to have a temporary effect on gametes. Which takes us back to the point that the vaccines are intended to prevent illness, which, in addition to also altering menstrual cycles, may cause far worse and even acutely fatal complications. Missing a period is a little inconvenient


My girlfriend got her vaccinations and there were no noticeable changes in her cycle

Edit: I'm just going to throw this out there too. I'm in my thirties and I've been in a lot of relationships and menstrual cycles are sensitive to just about everything. but slight changes in flow, onset, or duration are nothing to be alarmed about even if they are inconvenient. Do you have any idea how many medical interventions that have been long accepted cause some kind of change or another to womens' cycles?


the incidence of menstral cycle abnormalities after vaccination is twice that of what it is during covid-19 infection.

Dr. Robert Malone addresses all of the above questions in this video, starting at about 1:26::30,

https://tube.source.news/w/bVzKPofzKodFZazokCU8QC

if you can't watch the whole two hour video, the last 25 minutes are very insightful.

how big of a deal is infertility?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Malone suggested autoimmune issues may be related to free-circulating spike protein which developers assured would not happen. To pick up autoimmune issues, a 2- to 3- year follow-up period in phase 3 patients would be required to monitor for potential autoimmune consequences from vaccines — but that monitoring didn’t happen with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna also didn’t conduct proper animal studies, Weinstein said. What the animal models give us is a signal that alerts us to what we need to follow up on in humans.

Weinstein said:

“We’ve got very alarming short-term stuff. We’ve got short-term stuff that is alarming on the basis of where we find these lipids, where we find the spike proteins — those things are reasons for concern because it wasn’t supposed to be this way. We’ve also got an alarming signal in terms of the hazards and deaths or the harms and the deaths that are reported in the system and there are reasons to think they are dramatic under-reports.”


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
The feedback system between immune and reproductive organs in general is very fine tuned. they need to be able to use their hormones so tell their immune systems to shut the fuck up for a while instead of attacking their embryos/fetuses on the 'mistaken notion' that the embryo/fetus represents a gigantic infection. Or if you prefer, an organ transplant


autoimmune diseases present with a clear gender bias with a greater prevalence amongst women, occurring at a rate of two to one, but other data says that approximately 80% of all patients diagnosed with autoimmune diseases are women. the reason for this is hypothesized to be bc of the hormonal changes that women experience.

as you pointed out this finely tuned system can go haywire so easily.  the data showing that nano-lipids are accumulating in the ovaries after vaccination, means more abnormal hormonal changes, and worsening or new autoimmune conditions.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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I would suggest you stop listening to Robert Malone.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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do you think he is spreading misleading claims?

why do you think he would spread misleading claims?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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Professional grievance ,envy and money.

You see it all the time. Someone who has academic success but never was able to turn those ideas into commercially successful products. He tried for years to make a successful mRNA product then covid comes along and his peers do. He starts being a whiny little bitch and the money comes flowing in from guillible people like yourself. It’s a grift


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/13/22 12:47 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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i fully disagree with your assessment of his motives.  the fact that he does not have financial stakes in mrna vaccines, yet was deeply involved with the development in them makes him more trustworthy.  those with a sizeable financial stake are the critics who would like to see Dr. Robert Malone shut up and disappear.

if you watch any interview with him, it is clear that he desires no such cult of personality to form around himself.

he became a whistleblower bc public health and the practice of medicine is being destroyed worldwide.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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I realize some people are gullible beyond hope.

I would just ask that Asante start removing your posts and I suggest you post them in the conspiracy forum where they are appropriate


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NotSheekle said
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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it was not my intent to disturb the peace of your covid-19 echo chamber.

i posted here, bc i don’t see anyone rationally talking about ideas, issues, and data that go against the mainstream covid-19 narrative that is this thread.

i leave in peace to go make any future posts reguarding covid-19 or covid-19 vaccination in the conspiracy forum thread.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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This thread had been half word salad for a while now, and most of it has been conspiracy wacko stuff that people repeat like spam bots. I certainly wouldn't call the discussion mainstream or an echo chamber. The thread occasionally has some good data\research posted with some rare discussion. there's occasional speculation about the future of covid that is reasonable in nature, and there's been airing of beefs and discussion of social issues that has been reasonably respectful and informative. That's been the best that this 3 part thread series has had to offer. Posting wacko fringe stuff about the dangers of vaccination really isn't useful for discussion and all it does is spread misinformation.



thealienthatategod said:
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Malone suggested autoimmune issues may be related to free-circulating spike protein which developers assured would not happen. To pick up autoimmune issues, a 2- to 3- year follow-up period in phase 3 patients would be required to monitor for potential autoimmune consequences from vaccines — but that monitoring didn’t happen with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna also didn’t conduct proper animal studies, Weinstein said. What the animal models give us is a signal that alerts us to what we need to follow up on in humans.

Weinstein said:

“We’ve got very alarming short-term stuff. We’ve got short-term stuff that is alarming on the basis of where we find these lipids, where we find the spike proteins — those things are reasons for concern because it wasn’t supposed to be this way. We’ve also got an alarming signal in terms of the hazards and deaths or the harms and the deaths that are reported in the system and there are reasons to think they are dramatic under-reports.”



I haven't looked into any of this research on menstrual irregularities or autoimmunity after vaccination, but I wouldn't get too worried at this point since they're most likely rare and\or minor. I also wouldn't be surprised if there's some flair ups in autoimmune disease after vaccination. There sure as hell are autoimmune conditions that show up after covid infection though, and lots of them are serious and/or common enough to get noticed. Nobody has tied new onset type 1 diabetes to the vaccines, for example, but that's been tied to covid infection. Lots of these long covid syndromes and dysautonomia syndromes probably have an autoimmune component too, and vaccination seems to help prevent that kind of thing. All in all, the mRNA vaccines are still a big win, and will continue to be, even if some new side effects are discovered down the road. I'm not sure what these "alarming signals" are, and I wouldn't be too surprised by underreporting of some side effects, but I wouldn't start panicking about some weird experimental findings in animal studies that don't have any clear negative effects. Lots of things are surprising when you start looking at them, but that doesn't make them concerning, particularly when the alternatives are things like death and hospitalization for serious illness.

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I'm still impressed koods knows who all these wackos are when he sees their ideas posted. I didn't even bother to look deeper since the stuff felt like bunk. I watched some of that vid and this dude sounds like a wacko though. Intentional lot-to-lot variability in vaccines for research purposes is just a stupid thing to consider. Sounds like he's trying to make his video more appealing to antivaccine nutters who like the way technical words sound.

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I have a friend who has been spamming me with this shit for two years.

Honestly I’m surprised that the Malone stuff is popping up again. That guy is so last year.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html

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In addition to his regular appearances on conservative shows, Dr. Malone has more than 134,000 subscribers to his Substack newsletter. About 8,000 pay the $5 monthly cost, he said, which would amount to at least $31,200 in monthly revenue.


He also gets paid to speak at events. This guys is sick fuck who is partially responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

It’s about greed and fame. This guy makes $400k a year writing a newsletter.

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Weinstein said:



Another antivax grifter


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/13/22 06:42 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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it's so sad to see people exploited with this type of bunk science. There's a whole world of bunk science out there for people to explore. Some of the wackos here should go over to the conspiracy forum and make some noncovid science conspiracy threads to expand their horizons. Let me help:

https://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/physics/effects/Hutchison/websites/hutchison.innoplaza.net/2002-may-23/John%20Hutchison,%20The%20Wild%20Scientist%20from%20Vancouver.html

this guy makes all kinds of poorly substantiated claims and has pictures of weird deformed metals on his website. He's even named some unreproducible poorly explained effect after himself. It's called "the Hutchison effect". He's also got a video where he crossdresses and tells you how to make an unusual solid state battery from some salts and metals. You guys can go jack a thread in the conspiracy forum and start taking about free energy and that kinda shit. Tell everyone how powerplants are a conspiracy. It should be cathartic.

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