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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine]
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Maybe they are legally required to put up a sign recommending it LOL. Sort of like how cigarette makers legally have to put up a sign on their product basically recommending that people not use it


Nobody pays attention to the mask signs here anymore. A few people wear masks. Most people don't, even though the signs never came down.

Edited by morrowasted (03/24/22 10:28 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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Maybe. Could also be that "requirement" was just a poor choice of words by the sign maker and the local authorities recommend masks but there are no actual requirements in place relating to this.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: psi]
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Yes indeed both are possibilities

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
I think all the societal stress and change has been pushing more people who used to be borderline deeper into the decompensated zone. New mental illness diagnosis have definitely increased since before the pandemic. People with preexisiting mental health conditions are also getting less care than they were before and I assume that's making them a crazier population. I'm sure there's lots of other data coming out with all this new crazy to do research on. Covid itself is associated with new onset of lots of neurological and psychiatric conditions, and lots of people were barely sane before the end of 2019. I'm pretty sure the data overwhelming support the idea that there are more crazy people now than there were before the pandemic.



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SEN. BLACKBURN: “Can you provide a definition of the word ‘woman’?”

JACKSON: “No, I can’t”

BLACKBURN: “You can’t?”

JACKSON: “I’m not a biologist”



How would you define sanity, and who is qualified to have an opinion?



Biologists, define a living thing, without offending anyone.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008] * 2
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I'm required to reccomend orange juice as part of a complete breakfast


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher]
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:tongue2: You're not legally allowed to say that it can "cure" a certain medical condition.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher]
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I'm required to recommend people get their 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th boosters so I keep my jerb.  Well not really, as I work in CMC now, so no commercial side shit for me.  Human testing ftw.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
...

How would you define sanity, and who is qualified to have an opinion?

...

Biologists, define a living thing, without offending anyone.



There's some debate among biologists about what defines a living thing, but nobody argues about what makes a thing dead. Personally, I think there's a lot more wiggle room in the definition for normal psychology than what the legal and medical communities allow for, but there's still a point when somebody obviously doesn't have the capacity to function, and that's when it becomes easy to define insanity even if you don't know what sanity is. Focusing on that pertinent part problem, i.e. the clear insanity, makes it easier to create working definitions that can be used to understand and potentially solve pertinent problems, and being able to work within those confines is an important part of what makes someone qualified to have an opinion.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine]
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:sun: Anyone accusing others of craziness, tell us --
What is self harm?
What is aggression?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher]
    #27706700 -

gopher said:
I'm required to reccomend orange juice as part of a complete breakfast



How much are they paying you to say this

:notsureif:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: psi] * 2
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psi said:
gopher said:
I'm required to reccomend orange juice as part of a complete breakfast



How much are they paying you to say this

:notsureif:




Big OJ hard at work with the propaganda machine :tinfoil:


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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durian_2008 said:
Biologists, define a living thing, without offending anyone.



Mr.GuessWork said:
There's some debate among biologists about what defines a living thing, but nobody argues about what makes a thing dead.



Firstly, Mr G. might be a biologist. Are you qualified to answer?

Are algos in a computer simulation alive or dead? Please be kind to political transhumanists.

Edited by durian_2008 (03/24/22 12:11 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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Durian, you ate too much durian and that stank rotted your brain.  It's obvious the algorithms are alive, but not individually, they are alive as an emergent property of all algorithms everywhere at once.  They are even controlling you via social media as we speak, and you, all unwittingly, believing yourself to be truly "awake" while others are "asleep" are totally being played by "them".  I can see it all, now that my minds eye has been opened.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher]
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You are not legally allowed to say that OJ can "cure" dehydration, scurvy, or the common cold. Someone who cannot identify the self as an entity separate from others, or what is self-harm, aggression, or what is a living thing, is accusing his fellows of having a break with reality, without presenting any formal qualifications.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #27706718 -

Gopher's qualifications are as follows:  Decider of what is living, and what is dead.  This was achieved over a phenomenal "Summer of Gopher" in summer '21.  Proof that hard work and dedication to craft yields rich dividends.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
Are algos in a computer simulation alive or dead? Please be kind to political transhumanists.



Ice9 said:
alive, but not



Can you harm one?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
durian_2008 said:
Are algos in a computer simulation alive or dead? Please be kind to political transhumanists.



Ice9 said:
alive, but not



Can you harm one?



delete key my friend... fatal every time.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine]
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Energy can never conventionally be created nor destroyed. Does the algo retain it's former character in some higher, quantum state, akin to an afterlife?  Is it paired to a shadowlike version of itself?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Last Monday my vaccinated boosted son was required by a business to wear a mask and gloves.

Is the science still out on wearing gloves?  How many years do we have to wait?

Or are we just being extra extra safe just in case it maybe might possibly reduce "risk"?



Don't worry, the digital health passport and social credit tracking system will save us!  I'm not necessarily saying the purpose of the purposelessness is to irritate/inconvenience people until they jump at any opportunity(including ones which are not to their benefit) to not have to shuck and jive, but I'm not saying it's NOT the purpose.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
Energy can never conventionally be created nor destroyed. Does the algo retain it's former character in some higher, quantum state, akin to an afterlife?  Is it paired to a shadowlike version of itself?




You should have used the corollary to that statement: "Information can be neither created nor destroyed" known as the no-hiding theorem, or quantum no-hiding theorem.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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