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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Masks are done here monday. Thank fucking god.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 2
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The mask nonsense has been done for a bit here.

Yesterday though I seen someone standing on the corner outside still with mask on but pulled down so they could smoke a cigarette.

Just sums of everything perfectly.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
RJ Tubs 202 said:
I estimate at least half the masks I've seen people wearing during the pandemic have been cloth.

Flimsy cheap ones.  I'm talking about the masks being used.




I'd agree with that more or less. I'm still seeing people wearing cloth masks and some surgical. a few people with KN95s and almost nobody with N95s. I think I'm going to start wearing a half face respirator just to fuck with people.




I have usually worn a cloth mask but it has a filter inserted inside of it to add extra protection.  Always wear that shit tight on my face.  Well, I haven't been wearing a mask for the past week now, however, because I think things are going well here in my area.  And I have my vaccinations and booster taken care of and I'll get the fourth shot once I'm allowed to.



I'd keep an eye on cases, especially as restrictions are lifted since that'll encourage transmission, and use the down time to find an N95 that is comfortable enough to wear for when you need it later. vaccination is definitely the smartest thing you can do right now though, and I'm waiting for 4th dose boosters to get general approval too, and then I'm getting mine. It looks like vaccination offers some protection against lots of the long covid after infection too, but all that data is still pretty new and there's still plenty to learn about long term effects as this continues. There's no benefit to covid infection, and there's probably going to be a measurable drop in the population's cognitive function after this is over. No reason to be a part of that.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Jesus christ, get on with your life already.
All this pandemic has shown is how fucking dumb people are.

Idiots who won't get a harmless vaccine that has no side effects.

Other idiots who never want this to end because they want everyone else to have as boring a life as they do.

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I'd keep an eye on cases, especially as restrictions are lifted since that'll encourage transmission, and use the down time to find an N95 that is comfortable enough to wear for when you need it later. vaccination is definitely the smartest thing you can do right now though, and I'm waiting for 4th dose boosters to get general approval too, and then I'm getting mine. It looks like vaccination offers some protection against lots of the long covid after infection too, but all that data is still pretty new and there's still plenty to learn about long term effects as this continues. There's no benefit to covid infection, and there's probably going to be a measurable drop in the population's cognitive function after this is over. No reason to be a part of that.



Edited by Chhinnamasta (03/19/22 01:05 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Chhinnamasta] * 1
    #27701292 -

take a xannie bar man. This is a thread for covid discussion, and you don't have enough posts to melt without being accused of puppetry yet. The pandemic isn't over and vaccination isn't a perfect solution to the problem. We got better at preventing serious illness and keeping stupid people alive longer, but there are still lots of problems that need to be solved, and masking up with a high quality mask is still a great way to get extra protection against infection for smart people and for people that can't afford to get any dumber. You can't argue against that without being in the second category.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
    #27701333 -

Please wear a mask to the table!  You can then take it off, eat and drink and make a glutton of yourself.  And if you want to walk across the whole restaurant to get to the restroom without a mask that's fine too!  We like to pride ourselves on logic over here at bootlickers LLC.  We have limited liability because we can't be held responsible for anything!  But make sure you have that mask, or we can't serve you impeccably like we do.  In fact we won't serve you at all!


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theRealrollforever said:
That’s not possible; even with computers

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: theRealrollforever]
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FAUCI PATENT FOR VAXX-INDUCED AIDS: HIV GLYCOPROTEIN 120 CONTAINED IN VAXX
https://www.nutritruth.org/single-post/fauci-patent-for-vaxx-induced-aids-hiv-glycoprotein-120-contained-in-vaxx
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/fauci-patent-vaxxed-induced-aids-biotech-analyst-hiv-glycoprotein-120-contained-in-vaxx/

Let's say that we accept full-on leper's colonies. Cancel all hyperbolic, civil rights.

Why are shedders entitled to higher, social status, in year zero of the Great Reset?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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One would assume some of the proteins found in a virus will be found in (or made by) the vaccine. That’s how vaccines work.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: theRealrollforever]
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theRealrollforever said:
Please wear a mask to the table!  You can then take it off, eat and drink and make a glutton of yourself.  And if you want to walk across the whole restaurant to get to the restroom without a mask that's fine too!  We like to pride ourselves on logic over here at bootlickers LLC.  We have limited liability because we can't be held responsible for anything!  But make sure you have that mask, or we can't serve you impeccably like we do.  In fact we won't serve you at all!



I'm not embracing this as a good idea, but it's a real world scenario that pops up all over the place, and it's not the worst example I've seen. Some restaurants did a good job and switched to takeout with plastic barriers and that kind of stuff. Some people are smart enough to find ways to protect themselves and their employees and still run a business in difficult times.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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durian_2008 said:
FAUCI PATENT FOR VAXX-INDUCED AIDS: HIV GLYCOPROTEIN 120 CONTAINED IN VAXX



koods said:
One would assume some of the proteins found in a virus will be found in (or made by) the vaccine. That’s how vaccines work.



In the newer definition of a vaccine, some of the proteins of a virus are made by the vaccine, now. :shrug:

Was this a vaccine against HIV.

Also, are the vaccinated supposed to shed unwanted proteins, such as HIV GLYCOPROTEIN 120.

So, why does it make HIV GLYCOPROTEIN 120 ?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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When there is an argument, the academic institutions can censor an othwerwise-dry, mathematical concept.

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https://reclaimthenet.org/preprint-server-accused-of-censorship-for-removing-inflammatory-scientific-papers/

“If we allow this stuff, what is the difference between arXiv and Twitter?,” said University of Oxford physicist Paul Fendley, who sits on arXiv’s advisory committee.



Office toys and parlor tricks were reserved for private museums, later democratized to salons, coffee shops, and public forums.

Before schooling became a state market control and investment instrument.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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Academia has politics and political influences, and the course of science is affected by them. You should go pick up a copy of "the structure of scientific revolutions" and read it instead of the media drivel that's been slowly melting your brain. The guys in that link are probably trying to preserve the scientific integrity of the debate\discussion by avoiding topics of discussion that invite outside political meddling. Part of the reason why science has so many fucked up technobabble words is to keep idiots from meddling in things they don't understand. You posting opinions about about vaccine science that's well beyond layman level is probably a good indicator that you're being used to meddle in affairs that you're not capable of understanding. Don't be an enabler.

And don't put periods at the end of sentence fragments, especially if you can't make a point.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Part of the reason why science has so many fucked up technobabble words is to keep idiots from meddling in things they don't understand.




Like when the Bible was written in Latin.

Quote:
And don't put periods at the end of sentence fragments, especially if you can't make a point.



It was idiomatic.

(Idiom is the realized structure of a language, as opposed to possible but unrealized structures that could have developed to serve the same semantic functions but did not.)

:bow2:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
    #27703288 -

The moral(s) of the story:
-- Research papers are just another kind of publisher.
-- The state holds controlling interest.
-- Objective fact can be redacted to keep the peace or uphold a noble lie.

You anal-schwabbers started fact-check-censoring peer-reviews, as soon as we pure-bloods brought them to your attention.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
Before schooling became a state market control and investment instrument.



This is in no way an idiom. idioms are effective forms of communication. The statement you posted is much closer to word salad. It has enough semantical and syntactical nonsense in it to kill a jabberwocky.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Auto-Summary
A lab-created hybrid coronavirus related to SARS has been shown to infect human cells, reigniting debates over the risks of gain-of-function research. The chimeric virus, engineered by Daszak and colleagues, proved capable of infecting human airway cells and causing disease in mice. However, critics argue that the potential risks may outweigh any benefits, as the experiment created a novel, non-natural virus that could pose an unpredictable threat. The study was conducted before a US moratorium on funding for similar research, and the National Institutes of Health allowed it to proceed. Despite the concerns, proponents of the research argue that it helps identify which pathogens require further investigation.

Just look into Daszak's hybrid chimera strains. Lab-created, US government funded. He took a SARS-COV, Pandemic-SARS, backbone and morphed it with a current bat corona. The chimera version infected human cells much better. He created a super-SARS. He used the spike protein.

Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research
Decan Butler, Nature, 2015

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Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.

An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them.

Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population2.

The findings reinforce suspicions that bat coronaviruses capable of directly infecting humans (rather than first needing to evolve in an intermediate animal host) may be more common than previously thought, the researchers say.

But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says.

Creation of a chimaera

The argument is essentially a rerun of the debate over whether to allow lab research that increases the virulence, ease of spread or host range of dangerous pathogens — what is known as ‘gain-of-function’ research. In October 2014, the US government imposed a moratorium on federal funding of such research on the viruses that cause SARS, influenza and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, a deadly disease caused by a virus that sporadically jumps from camels to people).

The latest study was already under way before the US moratorium began, and the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) allowed it to proceed while it was under review by the agency, says Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a co-author of the study. The NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the moratorium, he says.

But Wain-Hobson disapproves of the study because, he says, it provides little benefit, and reveals little about the risk that the wild SHC014 virus in bats poses to humans.

Other experiments in the study show that the virus in wild bats would need to evolve to pose any threat to humans — a change that may never happen, although it cannot be ruled out. Baric and his team reconstructed the wild virus from its genome sequence and found that it grew poorly in human cell cultures and caused no significant disease in mice.

“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” agrees Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Both Ebright and Wain-Hobson are long-standing critics of gain-of-function research.

In their paper, the study authors also concede that funders may think twice about allowing such experiments in the future. "Scientific review panels may deem similar studies building chimeric viruses based on circulating strains too risky to pursue," they write, adding that discussion is needed as to "whether these types of chimeric virus studies warrant further investigation versus the inherent risks involved”.

Useful research

But Baric and others say the research did have benefits. The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper. Daszak is president of the EcoHealth Alliance, an international network of scientists, headquartered in New York City, that samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe.

Studies testing hybrid viruses in human cell culture and animal models are limited in what they can say about the threat posed by a wild virus, Daszak agrees. But he argues that they can help indicate which pathogens should be prioritized for further research attention.

Without the experiments, says Baric, the SHC014 virus would still be seen as not a threat. Previously, scientists had believed, on the basis of molecular modelling and other studies, that it should not be able to infect human cells. The latest work shows that the virus has already overcome critical barriers, such as being able to latch onto human receptors and efficiently infect human airway cells, he says. “I don't think you can ignore that.” He plans to do further studies with the virus in non-human primates, which may yield data more relevant to humans.




Follow the genes from Daszak's strains to see if there was a lab leak. I don't know if there was one or not, I haven't looked into the genes. But they are all published and you could trace them.

Edited by CreonAntigone (03/21/22 12:06 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone] * 2
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This thread really is a good screening tool for mental illness.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Part of the reason why science has so many fucked up technobabble words is to keep idiots from meddling in things they don't understand.



Max Planck was trying to hide his ideas about quantum theory.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
This thread really is a good screening tool for mental illness.



Tell me about it


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theRealrollforever said:
That’s not possible; even with computers

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone]
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Different virus. That article is about sars-cov1


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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