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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Is anyone aware of general surveillance research related to omicron? To help compute r0 and such


As far as I can tell a shitload of people "have COVID" without ever realizing it anymore. I have quite a few patients that go the entire hospital stay without ever "accepting" that they have covid just because they got a positive test since theyve had no apparent symptoms except the ones that brought them to the hospital

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Everyone here is pretty much back to normal. I think we probably reached herd immunity here during the last omichron go round. Everyone I see is just going about their lives like normal, no masks, no social distancing, nothing, and covid cases here are still falling.

I'm going to wait until pfizer or moderna releases a new vaccine that targets the newer variants before getting another shot, triple vaxed seems to work good enough.



For me zero vaxxed seemed to work just fine.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
China has had almost no covid.



Most people believe this to be false and that they got hit just as hard as other countries.. but you know, communist and the suppression of information.

I mean you seem educated Koods, do you REALLY think China has had almost no covid? I find that near impossible, it's just been covered up and non reported.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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They wouldn’t have been able to hide it. They are very heavy handed with surveillance and quarantines. They’d shut down entire cities for a couple cases.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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SO how in the world did one of the worlds most densely populated countries avoid the heavy hand of the pandemnic that other nations felt??


This may be one for the conspiracy forum, but I wouldn't put it past China to have used some sort of "vaccine" or "covid preventative" in the public water sources.


You know... release a deadly virus, but then secretly dose everyone in your own country with the cure so everyone but your country starts to die off.


I know that's far fetched but I mean for real. HOW*** did China avoid massive covid outbreaks ?


Personally I think they WOULD be able to hide it. You say they wouldn't be able to hide it... How so?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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I think they like wore masks socially distanced, did vigorous contact tracing and even went into full lockdown quarantine periods whereas we had a bunch of dumbasses who wouldmt get with the program :shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Nah man have you seen footage from inside Chinese cities? Most of the population travels in densely packed trains and heavily trafficked streets shoulder to shoulder

Studies have shown masks do help but are not anywhere near fully effective at stopping the spread of the virus.


It's a total scam( in my opinion) to believe that China somehow dodged the pandemic bullet.


That's what they want you to believe though.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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:shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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They have a whole system where you are tracked with you cell phone and they do really high tech contact tracing


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Yeah, I just watched a video about how already now China uses a "ranking "system" and it's based on what you spend, where you spend it, everything ti tracked and the person gets a ranking.


It's tracked through facial recognition and even body type and the clothes people are wearing. It's kind of scary to be honest how invasive the technology China is using against it's citizens. I forget the name of the video but it goes way deeper than the stuff I just mentioned .

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I think they like wore masks socially distanced, did vigorous contact tracing and even went into full lockdown quarantine periods whereas we had a bunch of dumbasses who wouldmt get with the program :shrug:



You know masks don't do shit right?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus]
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They do help to a certain degree to stop the spread for sure. But on a crowded transport train they would be near worthless.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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No they really don't. Not unless it's one of those n95s or whatever, you don't have a beard, and you have perfect suction.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus]
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hence my point that China has been lying about how bad Covid has been there for the last 2 years.


It must be getting really desperate now that they are doing massive lockdowns and are unable to hide it from the world news.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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China has always been doing huge lockdowns. Read a book.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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Fiery said:
Ice9 said:
For real... I thought Fiery was this empathetic person, then he spouts this bullshit like the Chinese people are deserving of divine retribution because a virus that caused a pandemic originated there.  :whattefuck2:

That shit could just as easily come out of the everglades, or Yellowstone or any of a million other places in the US. 





Temporary lapse in explaining myself fully. No need for the witch hunt here.

First off I never said anything about the Chinese people being deserving of anything so don't put words in my mouth please.

Second, it's widely accepted that the virus escaped from a lab in China, or at least Originated in Wuhan. Your theory about Covid coming from Yellowstone is not really likely.



Anyways, carry on people. No harm done.



Mange, canine par- vovirus, brucellosis, chronic wasting disease, whirling disease, and chytrid fungus are all examples of the pathogen pollution that is occurring in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem (GYE).

Particularly chronic wasting disease, if it could make the jump to humans (not saying it can or would) would be terrible.  Just because you are ignorant of the fact that terrible diseases exist everywhere is on you.  Don't put words in my mouth, I never said covid from yellowstone, I said the next pandemic could come from anywhere humans interact with wildlife (zoonotic transmission) :micdrop:


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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The CDC did a study on blood samples that looked only for antibodies produced by active infection.  Extrapolating from their findings, the estimate is 49% of the US population has had covid, rates go up for younger people and down for older.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/01/health/140-million-covid-19-infections/index.html

This study did not double count people who were infected multiple times.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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Fiery said:
Nah man have you seen footage from inside Chinese cities? Most of the population travels in densely packed trains and heavily trafficked streets shoulder to shoulder

Studies have shown masks do help but are not anywhere near fully effective at stopping the spread of the virus.


It's a total scam( in my opinion) to believe that China somehow dodged the pandemic bullet.


That's what they want you to believe though.




They limited the spread of covid with insanely draconian measures, including locking down right now, over 51 million people to stop the transmission of the omicron variant.  When you can enforce lockdown on that scale, you stop community spread.  Unfortunately for them, it will continue to pop-up and their "zero covid" strategy will continue to fail as well as take it's toll on their economy and their citizens, not that China cares


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus]
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longbus said:
CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I think they like wore masks socially distanced, did vigorous contact tracing and even went into full lockdown quarantine periods whereas we had a bunch of dumbasses who wouldmt get with the program :shrug:



You know masks don't do shit right?



https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/a-sharp-drop-in-flu-cases-during-covid-19-pandemic/

They worked pretty well against the flu


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine] * 1
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I think some people don’t understand why a mask that only blocks a fraction of viral particles is still effective. The chance that your exposure to covid infects you is directly proportional to the number of viral particles you’re exposed to. It takes tens to hundreds of thousands of viral particles to successfully infect someone. If you’re blocking 50% or even 25% of viral particles, a lot of exposures end up not having enough viral load to cause infection.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/16/22 02:51 AM)

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