Tonydanzawillpay said:

I’m awaiting the myriad of excuses to roll in when kiev falls

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unam sanctum said:

chopstick said:

mushboy said:

chopstick said:

A year down the line people are gonna be wondering how this happened, they probably won't even have the slightest clue it's connected to the sanctions.

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I kno it would of been better to just let Putin spread is authoritarian regime all over europe. At least we would of had cheaper soy beans and fossil fuels for carbon emissions.

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You make it sound so, so simple. As if it's just soybeans and fossil fuels that will go up in price. As if it will only hurt Russia.

What we're talking about is major damage to every economy on the planet, combined with rising inflation which will only seriously compound the problem.

On top of that a significant chunk of the planet is going to begin to move away from trading in dollars, which will hurt our domestic US currency over the long run. Over a long enough time-frame these factors could be enough to completely crash the US economy.

So in reality what we're talking about is the economic impoverishment of millions of people, not just in Russia, but also the United States, Europe, and other parts of the world.

All that just to "punish" Russia for something the US has done dozens of times. If only there were similar actions taken against the US during Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya - then maybe it would look like a fair and understandable response. Since that never happened, one can only presume that this response is absolutely disproportionate to the reality of the situation.

People need to understand what we're now all in for. I get the feeling most people have no clue. This is going to do more damage to the economy in the long run than Covid did. Significantly more damage, in-fact.

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You're right, we should be congratulating the great leader for his smart and cunning special operation to take a sovereign nation back to the dark ages. Why not just offer up Lithuania, Latvia and Poland to appease Putin while we're at it?  Romania too, and promise not to defend any of the non NATO Scandinavian countries.  You russki sympathizers sound a lot like the American nazi ones who came before you.  Oh, but won't it be difficult? And it'll hurt us too!  Of course it will, but it'll hurt a lot less now than the inevitable later.

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unam sanctum said:

You're right, we should be congratulating the great leader for his smart and cunning special operation to take a sovereign nation back to the dark ages. Why not just offer up Lithuania, Latvia and Poland to appease Putin while we're at it?  Romania too, and promise not to defend any of the non NATO Scandinavian countries.  You russki sympathizers sound a lot like the American nazi ones who came before you.  Oh, but won't it be difficult? And it'll hurt us too!  Of course it will, but it'll hurt a lot less now than the inevitable later.

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koods said:

No worries. Those planes are Ukrainian and will be operated from Ukraine. I already explained

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Tonydanzawillpay said:

Any update?

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mushboy said:

Hah.

Weapons grade thoughts and prayers.

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chopstick said:

unam sanctum said:

You're right, we should be congratulating the great leader for his smart and cunning special operation to take a sovereign nation back to the dark ages. Why not just offer up Lithuania, Latvia and Poland to appease Putin while we're at it?  Romania too, and promise not to defend any of the non NATO Scandinavian countries.  You russki sympathizers sound a lot like the American nazi ones who came before you.  Oh, but won't it be difficult? And it'll hurt us too!  Of course it will, but it'll hurt a lot less now than the inevitable later.

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Ridiculous hyperbole. Last I checked, there is no indigenous ethnic Russian population in Lithuania, Latvia or Poland that is being actively genocided with the full support of the local government of that country - and with US/NATO assistance. There is virtually a zero chance that Russia invades these countries.

Burning down the entire world economy over something which the US has itself done plenty of times in the past couple of decades alone is not only ridiculous, it's chock full of hypocrisy. It also does just as much damage to the self as it does to Russia. You just don't get it - basically what's happening here is, well, Russia did something bad so, now we're going to shoot them in the foot, but we're also going to shoot ourselves in the foot. Great, now nobody can walk and we're all injured. Great way of dealing with a crisis.

But hey, if we all want to shoot ourselves in the foot, so be it. Let the whole carnival circus come crashing down for all I care. The faster the better. Clearly things won't change on this planet until the whole fraudulent and fake nature of our system is exposed for all the world to see, and people all the world over are finally knocked out of their comfort zones.

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